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Topspinmo 05-28-2015 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by newguyintv (Post 1066452)
Are you talking about Cars or Golf Carts. The golf cart lanes on the bridge are so narrow that someone is bound to be killed there eventually. And by the way, why would anyone be ticketed for going 21 on a road whose speed limit is higher than that. OH, you mean golf carts whose max speed limit on public streets is 20 mph. Golf cart going 21 mph is like a car going 40 in a 35 mph zone. Both should be ticketed.

I have problem with your math 21 vs. 20, 1 mph over. 35 vs 40, 5 mph over. Big strength. I would think Officer would allow for Calibration of equipment (both the radar devise and the Speedometer on Governed Golf cart set at 20 MPH) before he would write ticket 1 MPH over the speed limit. No comparison 35 vs 40. Bad Comparison IMO.

My golf cart is governed at 20 MPH and has speedometer. depending on the ground level, un-level, or the wind the speed varies between 19.4 MPH to 20.4 MPH. I get passed maybe 20 present of the time.

newguyintv 05-28-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1066515)
I have problem with your math 21 vs. 20, 1 mph over. 35 vs 40, 5 mph over. Big strength. I would think Officer would allow for Calibration of equipment (both the radar devise and the Speedometer on Governed Golf cart set at 20 MPH) before he would write ticket 1 MPH over the speed limit. No comparison 35 vs 40. Bad Comparison IMO.

My golf cart is governed at 20 MPH and has speedometer. depending on the ground level, un-level, or the wind the speed varies between 19.4 MPH to 20.4 MPH. I get passed maybe 20 present of the time.

Your math needs to learn percentages!

CFrance 05-28-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1066387)
The police should keep a dedicated force to do nothing but watch for moving violations in TV. The force will easily pay for itself.

The more tickets and the higher the cost the better.

At some point TV will gain a reputation for strict traffic violation enforcement and everybody will respond according.

Just like we all do when we get to those little towns where we KNOW if you go one mile over the speed limit you will get a ticket.

Congrats to the increased enforcement and let's be good itizens and call and thank the appropriate law enforcement office and offer words to keep up the good work.

Amen to that.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-28-2015 03:55 PM

Interesting. I was just driving in my golf cart in that area. I went from the Del Mar gate on Avenida Central down Del Mar. About 300 before you get to Rio Grande there is an upgrade. About 150 yards later you reach the top and immediately begin going downhill.
I was following a cart that was going under 20 mph. When I got to the uphill section, I stepped floored it to get up the hill. I got up to just under 20 mph. As soon as I began going downhill, I took my foot completely off the accelerator. Within a few seconds, I was going 22 mph. I applied the brake until I got back down to 20. According to some people, I should have been ticketed.

As I was coming back from LSL I kept me speed under 20 being aware of what's going on down there. As I was approaching the intersection where Mr Hughes was killed. I noticed flashing red and blue lights. I came over a hill and a motorcycle cop had some poor guy pulled over and was ticketing him.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. As you approach that area of Morse heading north, you begin a downhill grade. The cops wait at the bottom of that grade to catch these dangerous drivers.

What a joke. An 85 year old man makes a huge mistake. A bunch of over zealous people go and complain and the county decides that they will go harass a bunch of people for a few days and make a few bucks in the process.

34 mph in a 30 mph zone and 20 mph golf carts reaching 22 or 23 is not the problem. The problem is people, or in this case, a person, making bad decisions.

golf2140 05-28-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1066529)
Interesting. I was just driving in my golf cart in that area. I went from the Del Mar gate on Avenida Central down Del Mar. About 300 before you get to Rio Grande there is an upgrade. About 150 yards later you reach the top and immediately begin going downhill.
I was following a cart that was going under 20 mph. When I got to the uphill section, I stepped floored it to get up the hill. I got up to just under 20 mph. As soon as I began going downhill, I took my foot completely off the accelerator. Within a few seconds, I was going 22 mph. I applied the brake until I got back down to 20. According to some people, I should have been ticketed.

As I was coming back from LSL I kept me speed under 20 being aware of what's going on down there. As I was approaching the intersection where Mr Hughes was killed. I noticed flashing red and blue lights. I came over a hill and a motorcycle cop had some poor guy pulled over and was ticketing him.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. As you approach that area of Morse heading north, you begin a downhill grade. The cops wait at the bottom of that grade to catch these dangerous drivers.

What a joke. An 85 year old man makes a huge mistake. A bunch of over zealous people go and complain and the county decides that they will go harass a bunch of people for a few days and make a few bucks in the process.

34 mph in a 30 mph zone and 20 mph golf carts reaching 22 or 23 is not the problem. The problem is people, or in this case, a person, making bad decisions.

:bigbow:

janmcn 05-28-2015 04:25 PM

It's less expensive to urge the police to do the job they're paid to do than to talk about adding tunnels, stop signs, speed bumps, speed limit signs, etc.

A very short article in the on-line news says they normally write one ticket a day in that area. Yesterday they wrote 20 to placate the unruly crowd of a few hundred that showed up at the Sumter County Commissioner's meeting Tuesday night. They also presented the commissioners with a petition containing 1000 names.

We'll see how long this stepped up enforcement lasts.

JMEZARIC3 05-28-2015 04:39 PM

Tickets
 
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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1066317)
Yesterday 20 speeding tickets were issued on Morse north of 466. 3 were issued to golf carts. :coolsmiley:

Were the golf carts street legal(25 mph limit) on Morse or were the carts traveling on the cart path(20 mph)?

gerryann 05-28-2015 04:39 PM

At the meeting Police presence was asked for. Now you have Police presence. Are you really gonna complain because they are now there and doing their job??? Lets hope they stay and nab a whole bunch more.

Shimpy 05-28-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1066380)
If a Golf Cart is clocked going over 19.9, it is no longer a LSV-the tickets will be for the following

Where do people come up with the 19.9 mph? The law says 20 mph. Also you have the terms wrong. A LSV is allowed to go 25 mph and is street legal. A golf cart is limited to 20 mph and can only travel on roads with a 30 mph speed limit or less.

bluedog103 05-28-2015 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1066529)
Interesting. I was just driving in my golf cart in that area. I went from the Del Mar gate on Avenida Central down Del Mar. About 300 before you get to Rio Grande there is an upgrade. About 150 yards later you reach the top and immediately begin going downhill.
I was following a cart that was going under 20 mph. When I got to the uphill section, I stepped floored it to get up the hill. I got up to just under 20 mph. As soon as I began going downhill, I took my foot completely off the accelerator. Within a few seconds, I was going 22 mph. I applied the brake until I got back down to 20. According to some people, I should have been ticketed.

As I was coming back from LSL I kept me speed under 20 being aware of what's going on down there. As I was approaching the intersection where Mr Hughes was killed. I noticed flashing red and blue lights. I came over a hill and a motorcycle cop had some poor guy pulled over and was ticketing him.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. As you approach that area of Morse heading north, you begin a downhill grade. The cops wait at the bottom of that grade to catch these dangerous drivers.

What a joke. An 85 year old man makes a huge mistake. A bunch of over zealous people go and complain and the county decides that they will go harass a bunch of people for a few days and make a few bucks in the process.

34 mph in a 30 mph zone and 20 mph golf carts reaching 22 or 23 is not the problem. The problem is people, or in this case, a person, making bad decisions.

Well said Doc, thanks.

justjim 05-28-2015 05:12 PM

Careful what you wish for
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1066387)
The police should keep a dedicated force to do nothing but watch for moving violations in TV. The force will easily pay for itself.

The more tickets and the higher the cost the better.

At some point TV will gain a reputation for strict traffic violation enforcement and everybody will respond according.

Just like we all do when we get to those little towns where we KNOW if you go one mile over the speed limit you will get a ticket.

Congrats to the increased enforcement and let's be good itizens and call and thank the appropriate law enforcement office and offer words to keep up the good work.

Those who are wishing for more tickets to be written should be careful what they wish for. :cus: :spoken:

Uberschaf 05-28-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1066365)
a speeding ticket on a golf cart with all the add ons & required remediation can get close to $1000.00

Only if you fight it.$325 if you don't.

gerryann 05-28-2015 05:32 PM

Can't ticket anyone that doesn't break the law.

John_W 05-28-2015 05:32 PM

I'd rather see police at any of the traffic circles on Buena Vista giving out 'illegal left turn' tickets to those who like to ride around to the third exit in the outside lane. My favorite would be Buena Vista and Bailey's Trail, they could write one per minute during the day.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/La...9f7e1d!6m1!1e1

Yankee1 05-28-2015 05:39 PM

If you think Morse Blvd has speeders on the road and golf cart path, you should see St. Charles speedway. I'm surprised so many get away with speeding.


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