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dlebuis 05-31-2021 06:48 AM
I agree. Seen too many accidents with people pulling out in intersection and thinking they can make it getting hit. Especially intersection of Morse and 466. With SUVs and trucks it’s often hard to see around them to make sure all lanes are clear. Since we’ve been here, there have been a few fatalities.

joseppe 05-31-2021 06:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grill Meister (Post 1952768)
TRAFFIC CONTROLS IN THE TRI-COUNTIES
Let’s begin with my admitting that I am an impatient son-of-a-gun and if things don’t go my way I have a hissy fit.

I have some terrible issues with the traffic controls in Tri-Counties. I have lived in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, California and Florida (Miami, Sarasota, St. Pete, Tampa, Jacksonville, Tallahassee and now The Villages) and I have never experienced the traffic controls like the ones we face daily….if we’re out on the highways.
In most other locations, the traffic engineers time the traffic signals to have an orderly flow of traffic. The primary issue is, of course, is SAFETY. The flow of traffic traveling at the posted speed limit should be able to continue through the traffic signals without having to stop. But not here. If you drive on US 441/27 you are lucky if you can get through two traffic signals without stopping and I mean lucky. Most of the time, you will have to stop at every stinking light. We drove through Leesburg this morning and every….EVERY light caught us.

And, I have never experienced the left turn arrow as we have here. In most locations, other than the tri-counties, you may have a left turn arrow, which gives you total right of way against opposing traffic. When that turn arrow goes to caution (yellow) you know that your right of way against opposing traffic is about to cease and you need to prepare to stop. But, then after the caution light goes off, you have a green light….in most other locations; but you also have opposing traffic, so you have better wait until you have a break in traffic before your turn left. Here, in the tri-counties, the turn arrow goes to red and you sit and sit and sit, even though there may not be any traffic coming at you. And that’s compounded by some wonderful driver who will not pull out into the intersection so that they can turn left when the traffic has a gap or when the light turns red. AAAARRRRGGGG!!!

Another wonderful bit of timing frequently occurs and the intersection of Buenos Aries and Hwy 466. Those lights are so timed that there may be no traffic at all allowed through in any direction. Cars on 466 in both directions just sit. Traffic on Buenos Aires just sit. Ain’t nobody goin’ no where.

Now can somebody explain to this growly impatient pain in the #$$@ what is going on?

I realize that I can rationalize my feelings with the justification that all that idle time you are just sitting in your automobile is a terrible waste of gasoline, polluting the environment, but I admitted that I am impatient and I am, but my greatest area of impatience is stupidity. You can’t cure stupidity and the traffic controls around here are just stupid.

And….I might add….I love our seasonal neighbors, aka, Snow Birds. They are great people and make great friends and neighbors. It’s those other idiots that come down here and don’t know how to drive around The Villages that get on our nerves. The are arrogant, abusive, antagonistic, rude and just down right nasty and they give a bad name to our wonderful seasonal neighbors whom we love so dearly.

Incidentally, I do not moan and groan about “the developer” making money and increasing prices. They must make a profit. It’s their investment of time, money and resources and they damned sure should make a profit. Do you want to live in a community that was created and controlled by a bunch of idiots? If they didn’t make profits, they would go bankrupt and leave us high and dry to fend for ourselves. But the traffic around here stinks.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
My guess is that your time in California was NOT southern California (L.A.) Spend a month or so in the LosAngeles or even Orange County(California Orange County) and you'll think this is a picnic.

Polar Bear 05-31-2021 06:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1952980)
Just for the record. Its illegal to pull into the intersection while you wait for a break in traffic to make your turn…
Are you talking about a left turn when you have a green ball?

If so, it is NOT illegal. It is in fact the correct and 100% legal way to make your left turn.

Guitarman1951 05-31-2021 06:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grill Meister (Post 1952768)
TRAFFIC CONTROLS IN THE TRI-COUNTIES
Let’s begin with my admitting that I am an impatient son-of-a-gun and if things don’t go my way I have a hissy fit.

I have some terrible issues with the traffic controls in Tri-Counties. I have lived in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, California and Florida (Miami, Sarasota, St. Pete, Tampa, Jacksonville, Tallahassee and now The Villages) and I have never experienced the traffic controls like the ones we face daily….if we’re out on the highways.
In most other locations, the traffic engineers time the traffic signals to have an orderly flow of traffic. The primary issue is, of course, is SAFETY. The flow of traffic traveling at the posted speed limit should be able to continue through the traffic signals without having to stop. But not here. If you drive on US 441/27 you are lucky if you can get through two traffic signals without stopping and I mean lucky. Most of the time, you will have to stop at every stinking light. We drove through Leesburg this morning and every….EVERY light caught us.

And, I have never experienced the left turn arrow as we have here. In most locations, other than the tri-counties, you may have a left turn arrow, which gives you total right of way against opposing traffic. When that turn arrow goes to caution (yellow) you know that your right of way against opposing traffic is about to cease and you need to prepare to stop. But, then after the caution light goes off, you have a green light….in most other locations; but you also have opposing traffic, so you have better wait until you have a break in traffic before your turn left. Here, in the tri-counties, the turn arrow goes to red and you sit and sit and sit, even though there may not be any traffic coming at you. And that’s compounded by some wonderful driver who will not pull out into the intersection so that they can turn left when the traffic has a gap or when the light turns red. AAAARRRRGGGG!!!

Another wonderful bit of timing frequently occurs and the intersection of Buenos Aries and Hwy 466. Those lights are so timed that there may be no traffic at all allowed through in any direction. Cars on 466 in both directions just sit. Traffic on Buenos Aires just sit. Ain’t nobody goin’ no where.

Now can somebody explain to this growly impatient pain in the #$$@ what is going on?

I realize that I can rationalize my feelings with the justification that all that idle time you are just sitting in your automobile is a terrible waste of gasoline, polluting the environment, but I admitted that I am impatient and I am, but my greatest area of impatience is stupidity. You can’t cure stupidity and the traffic controls around here are just stupid.

And….I might add….I love our seasonal neighbors, aka, Snow Birds. They are great people and make great friends and neighbors. It’s those other idiots that come down here and don’t know how to drive around The Villages that get on our nerves. The are arrogant, abusive, antagonistic, rude and just down right nasty and they give a bad name to our wonderful seasonal neighbors whom we love so dearly.

Incidentally, I do not moan and groan about “the developer” making money and increasing prices. They must make a profit. It’s their investment of time, money and resources and they damned sure should make a profit. Do you want to live in a community that was created and controlled by a bunch of idiots? If they didn’t make profits, they would go bankrupt and leave us high and dry to fend for ourselves. But the traffic around here stinks.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
I get aggravated by bad drivers and heavy traffic as well but you have me beat by quite a bit!! 😜As my wife says sometimes, take a chill pill!! We are in one of the fastest growing areas in the entire nation. In consideration of that fact, I think overall, the local communities do a pretty good job in adjusting to it.
As far as your complaint about traffic lights, it must just be your bad luck. There are times when I've driven thru the various towns, Lady Lake, Leesburg, Bellevue, etc., and get thru numerous green lights before I catch a red. Other times, much like you said, catching a lot of reds. It's just timing I figure. I'm more aggravated by the crazy drivers, people not paying attention and all us old people whose driving prowness may not be what it once was!!! 😂
All in all, after fighting traffic in St. Louis for many years, experience in other big cities, especially LA & San Francisco, I'd take here over any of those anytime!! Chill my son, chill!! 😂😎

golfing eagles 05-31-2021 07:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grill Meister (Post 1952768)
TRAFFIC CONTROLS IN THE TRI-COUNTIES
Let’s begin with my admitting that I am an impatient son-of-a-gun and if things don’t go my way I have a hissy fit.

I have some terrible issues with the traffic controls in Tri-Counties. I have lived in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, California and Florida (Miami, Sarasota, St. Pete, Tampa, Jacksonville, Tallahassee and now The Villages) and I have never experienced the traffic controls like the ones we face daily….if we’re out on the highways.
In most other locations, the traffic engineers time the traffic signals to have an orderly flow of traffic. The primary issue is, of course, is SAFETY. The flow of traffic traveling at the posted speed limit should be able to continue through the traffic signals without having to stop. But not here. If you drive on US 441/27 you are lucky if you can get through two traffic signals without stopping and I mean lucky. Most of the time, you will have to stop at every stinking light. We drove through Leesburg this morning and every….EVERY light caught us.

And, I have never experienced the left turn arrow as we have here. In most locations, other than the tri-counties, you may have a left turn arrow, which gives you total right of way against opposing traffic. When that turn arrow goes to caution (yellow) you know that your right of way against opposing traffic is about to cease and you need to prepare to stop. But, then after the caution light goes off, you have a green light….in most other locations; but you also have opposing traffic, so you have better wait until you have a break in traffic before your turn left. Here, in the tri-counties, the turn arrow goes to red and you sit and sit and sit, even though there may not be any traffic coming at you. And that’s compounded by some wonderful driver who will not pull out into the intersection so that they can turn left when the traffic has a gap or when the light turns red. AAAARRRRGGGG!!!

Another wonderful bit of timing frequently occurs and the intersection of Buenos Aries and Hwy 466. Those lights are so timed that there may be no traffic at all allowed through in any direction. Cars on 466 in both directions just sit. Traffic on Buenos Aires just sit. Ain’t nobody goin’ no where.

Now can somebody explain to this growly impatient pain in the #$$@ what is going on?

I realize that I can rationalize my feelings with the justification that all that idle time you are just sitting in your automobile is a terrible waste of gasoline, polluting the environment, but I admitted that I am impatient and I am, but my greatest area of impatience is stupidity. You can’t cure stupidity and the traffic controls around here are just stupid.

And….I might add….I love our seasonal neighbors, aka, Snow Birds. They are great people and make great friends and neighbors. It’s those other idiots that come down here and don’t know how to drive around The Villages that get on our nerves. The are arrogant, abusive, antagonistic, rude and just down right nasty and they give a bad name to our wonderful seasonal neighbors whom we love so dearly.

Incidentally, I do not moan and groan about “the developer” making money and increasing prices. They must make a profit. It’s their investment of time, money and resources and they damned sure should make a profit. Do you want to live in a community that was created and controlled by a bunch of idiots? If they didn’t make profits, they would go bankrupt and leave us high and dry to fend for ourselves. But the traffic around here stinks.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
Compared to NY, the traffic here is great. But I do agree with much of what you said.

The problem with the left turn arrows is that the powers that be have played to the lowest common denominator of drivers. The intersection of both Morse and BV with 466A used to have a left arrow, followed by a flashing yellow left arrow for the rest of the cycle. About 2 years ago they changed it to a timed left arrow followed by red for the whole cycle. So now you sit there 2-3 minutes with no one coming if it is late enough at night. Why??? Because there were a bunch of accidents, probably by people who shouldn't be driving in the first place, so now everyone suffers.

toeser 05-31-2021 07:11 AM
I completely agree. We have the worst traffic signal timing here of anyplace I have ever lived. A trip to Ocala or a trip south through Lady Lake and Leesburg can often take double the time it should with some reasonably timed lights. There is no way to time lights so everyone gets through without having to stop, but like you, I have hit 100% red lights sometimes trying to get through these cities.

Pinball wizard 05-31-2021 07:12 AM
Granted this is from Alberta...

Left Hand Turn Demonstration - YouTube

wrestle1 05-31-2021 07:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1952992)
Are you talking about a left turn when you have a green ball?

If so, it is NOT illegal. It is in fact the correct and 100% legal way to make your left turn.
You are correct, legal and a courteous and safe method to keep left turn traffic flowing. I’m assuming Girlcopper was joking.

tallmanf 05-31-2021 07:22 AM
Quite the rant. I myself had to learn how to slow down. I’m retired, not running to work, taking kids to school, etc. enjoy the ride.

Fuzzy 05-31-2021 07:38 AM
Dangerous
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1952771)
I am one of those wonderful drivers.

I don't pull out into the intersection until I am confident I can turn left without pausing.
Many have lost their life pulling out thinking they could make it or didn’t see the other driver. That comment is truly insensitive.

cgalloway6 05-31-2021 07:42 AM
An additional intersection with a purplexing light 466A and 27/441.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grill Meister (Post 1952768)
TRAFFIC CONTROLS IN THE TRI-COUNTIES
Let’s begin with my admitting that I am an impatient son-of-a-gun and if things don’t go my way I have a hissy fit.

I have some terrible issues with the traffic controls in Tri-Counties. I have lived in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, California and Florida (Miami, Sarasota, St. Pete, Tampa, Jacksonville, Tallahassee and now The Villages) and I have never experienced the traffic controls like the ones we face daily….if we’re out on the highways.
In most other locations, the traffic engineers time the traffic signals to have an orderly flow of traffic. The primary issue is, of course, is SAFETY. The flow of traffic traveling at the posted speed limit should be able to continue through the traffic signals without having to stop. But not here. If you drive on US 441/27 you are lucky if you can get through two traffic signals without stopping and I mean lucky. Most of the time, you will have to stop at every stinking light. We drove through Leesburg this morning and every….EVERY light caught us.

And, I have never experienced the left turn arrow as we have here. In most locations, other than the tri-counties, you may have a left turn arrow, which gives you total right of way against opposing traffic. When that turn arrow goes to caution (yellow) you know that your right of way against opposing traffic is about to cease and you need to prepare to stop. But, then after the caution light goes off, you have a green light….in most other locations; but you also have opposing traffic, so you have better wait until you have a break in traffic before your turn left. Here, in the tri-counties, the turn arrow goes to red and you sit and sit and sit, even though there may not be any traffic coming at you. And that’s compounded by some wonderful driver who will not pull out into the intersection so that they can turn left when the traffic has a gap or when the light turns red. AAAARRRRGGGG!!!

Another wonderful bit of timing frequently occurs and the intersection of Buenos Aries and Hwy 466. Those lights are so timed that there may be no traffic at all allowed through in any direction. Cars on 466 in both directions just sit. Traffic on Buenos Aires just sit. Ain’t nobody goin’ no where.

Now can somebody explain to this growly impatient pain in the #$$@ what is going on?

I realize that I can rationalize my feelings with the justification that all that idle time you are just sitting in your automobile is a terrible waste of gasoline, polluting the environment, but I admitted that I am impatient and I am, but my greatest area of impatience is stupidity. You can’t cure stupidity and the traffic controls around here are just stupid.

And….I might add….I love our seasonal neighbors, aka, Snow Birds. They are great people and make great friends and neighbors. It’s those other idiots that come down here and don’t know how to drive around The Villages that get on our nerves. The are arrogant, abusive, antagonistic, rude and just down right nasty and they give a bad name to our wonderful seasonal neighbors whom we love so dearly.

Incidentally, I do not moan and groan about “the developer” making money and increasing prices. They must make a profit. It’s their investment of time, money and resources and they damned sure should make a profit. Do you want to live in a community that was created and controlled by a bunch of idiots? If they didn’t make profits, they would go bankrupt and leave us high and dry to fend for ourselves. But the traffic around here stinks.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
The traffic lights at the intersection of 466A and 441/27 is a puzzle. There are left turn lanes and lights on both the north and south bound lanes. The left turn lane on the northbound lane turns onto 466A. The left turn lane on southbound lane 441/27 turns into a guard rail. There is no road! And the northbound 441/27 traffic has to stop every cycle for southbound traffic to make left turns into the non existent road. There is no need for a car to trip it as it automatically operates. I have only seen one car use it for a u-turn, otherwise it is empty while the southbound traffic continues and all the northbound traffic has to stop and wait for nothing.
When the left turn light on northbound 441/27 is active, it would be nice if there was a right turn arrow on 466A but you have to hope the driver ahead of you is aware the right turn is protected by the left turning traffic on NB 441/27 with a left turn light. Sometimes they are, sometimes they are napping.
For the folks telling us to calm down and just go with the flow - every time you sit at a light you are wasting gas and creating pollution. I'm not an environmentalist but I am cheap. Timing the lights on 441/27 through Leesburg wouldn't be that difficult. Side streets could just wait for the next cycle instead of allowing them to switch whenever.

stanley 05-31-2021 07:53 AM
I see there are a lot of retired traffic and highway engineers here

Topspinmo 05-31-2021 07:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1952920)
Yep, this bugs me too...
And the gazillion STOP signs in TV that should be YIELD signs because hardly anybody stops for them anyway.
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
Funny thing about those stops signs especially at 4 way stops, you to stop before you’re in-line and that means behind the stop sign or white line across the street. :)

HJBeck 05-31-2021 08:12 AM
Try Marijuana, you'll feel a lot better.

Bilyclub 05-31-2021 08:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1952980)
Just for the record. Its illegal to pull into the intersection while you wait for a break in traffic to make your turn. I know. Iknow. Everyone does it and so do I BUT those people are just obeying traffic laws
I am not a Florida LEO, but I have talked to several around TV and it is not illegal in Florida. I have seen East coasters post it was illegal in their states. In my jurisdiction it was legal and taught in driver's ed.

Dave&JeanneBankard 05-31-2021 08:33 AM
Wow, there’s a lot of issues in your post. I too wonder why the lights work the way they do, but since I live in Fenney, I have multiple ways to get up to 441/27. Even with the whacky light situation, Morse is the quickest way. Take your time and remember that the seemingly nut-job driver in front of you is really the great equalizer that will most likely save you from something terrible down the road.

Chrissy55 05-31-2021 08:46 AM
You are right on so many levels but I will add to your list that people in Florida do not use turn signals.when driving their cars or golf carts. It’s very frustrating and dangerous.

NewRealms 05-31-2021 09:01 AM
I would suggest you look in the mirror for the problem.

Villages Kahuna 05-31-2021 09:17 AM
Calm down… and stay off the highways. Traffic circles seem to work better.

b1ll649 05-31-2021 09:18 AM
It doesn't sound like it based on your fear. I drove in NJ for 45 years with roundabout (we called them circles) on most major highways. These circles down here are nothing to fear, believe me.

EBZ06 05-31-2021 09:25 AM
Having grown up in the "big city" (Queens, NY). I've seen some traffic related things that's make your head spin. But, my contention is, the worst drivers in the country reside in Florida. No doubt. I know that most of us all come from somewhere else, but it's true - Fla-da. I submit: I-75. That being said, these "Traffic Engineers" know not what they do. In Queens, Northern Blvd runs basically parallel to the Long Island Expressway into Manhattan. The "Distressway" is infamous for being a total bottleneck, especially during the rush hours. Years ago, someone discovered that if they timed the lights on Northern - and you observed the 35MPH speed limit, you could make it into the city. I tried it. It works, and also relieved me of a lot of frustration. I believe it would work here on 27/441 - but only if the morons who HAVE to do 50+ would abide.

TesaA 05-31-2021 09:27 AM
YES!!! My favorite gripe is the driver who stops at the light two or three cars away from the "lead" car and totally blocks anyone from making it into the right turn lane.

rmd2 05-31-2021 09:40 AM
There are 2 traffic lights that don't work properly at night. I don't know why this is only at night but this is what happens. If you are coming out of Lowe's or Cracker Barrel on 441 and you want to go straight across 441 onto Buenos Aries Rd. you can sit through 3 light changes and you won't get a green light to go across 441. You have to turn R, go to the next light on 441, do a U Turn and then make a right onto Buenos Aries.

The other non-functioning light is at Southern Trace and Buena Vista. If you are on Southern Trace and want to make a left turn onto Buena Vista at night good luck. You can sit there forever and the light will not change. I have had to make a UTurn and go back again through the gate sometimes this will trip the light but sometimes even that won't work. If another car comes behind me it generally will trip the light then.

These two lights do not work at night. During the day they are fine. I live in the area and drive there all the time, but I just don't understand why they don't function at night (you can tell I am a night person:)

GPGuar 05-31-2021 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1952771)
I am one of those wonderful drivers.

I don't pull out into the intersection until I am confident I can turn left without pausing.
WHY!!!???? I understand you’re safety concern but all this does is back up traffic behind you. And usually if I’m the one behind you I get stuck at the light. And please don’t say something like “I’m retired what’s the rush?”

daddymac1127 05-31-2021 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GPGuar (Post 1953100)
WHY!!!???? I understand you’re safety concern but all this does is back up traffic behind you. And usually if I’m the one behind you I get stuck at the light. And please don’t say something like “I’m retired what’s the rush?”
i will say it. Your RETIRED WHAT IS THE RUSH? I always say better to use common sense and be safe than sorry.

VApeople 05-31-2021 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1952771)
I am one of those wonderful drivers.

I don't pull out into the intersection until I am confident I can turn left without pausing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GPGuar (Post 1953100)
WHY!!!???? I understand you’re safety concern
Your post makes no sense.

You say you understand my "safety concerns", but then you ask "Why".

Anyway, we have been here five years and have never found the traffic to be irritating. We know how others drive and we have learned how to deal with it. That is what grown-ups do.

kathyspear 05-31-2021 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 1953116)
i will say it. Your RETIRED WHAT IS THE RUSH? I always say better to use common sense and be safe than sorry.
All Villagers are NOT retired. Just saying ...

k.

jimhurtt@twc.com 05-31-2021 11:36 AM
Good venting. You should feel a lot better now.

C. C. Rider 05-31-2021 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1952980)
Just for the record. Its illegal to pull into the intersection while you wait for a break in traffic to make your turn. I know. Iknow. Everyone does it and so do I BUT those people are just obeying traffic laws
First, you contradict yourself in your post. How can something be "illegal" and at the same time be "obeying traffic laws"?

Second, if you think it is "illegal" to pull into the intersection when you have a green light, I'd like you to show me the law that says that. People who make right hand turns pull into the intersection all the time before turning right, so why couldn't people in the left lane also pull into the intersection before making their turn?

GPGuar 05-31-2021 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1953117)
Your post makes no sense.

You say you understand my "safety concerns", but then you ask "Why".

Anyway, we have been here five years and have never found the traffic to be irritating. We know how others drive and we have learned how to deal with it. That is what grown-ups do.
That’s fine, I’ll wait Patiently behind you while you Cautiously proceed into the intersection. No worries. Lol Just different driving from different parts of the country.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-31-2021 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 1952956)
I can add two additional frustrations:

The traffic in the rotary has the right of way. Some drivers from one particular unnamed state are apparently taught that traffic entering the circle has the right of way. Result? Traffic in the circle slows and bunches up to allow the incoming vehicle to enter. WRONG.

Next: Rotaries here need some getting use to. Once you have been here awhile this isn’t a problem since you expect it. For newer residents or seasonal residents, this may be an issue. Some of the rotaries have two marked dotted line exit lanes from the rotary both going into some village entrances. It is possible for traffic in the right lane which is proceeding STRAIGHT past the exit to cross with traffic in the left lane attempting to leave the rotary to enter the village. The road markings show a turn possible from the left lane. The issue might. be resolved by somehow changing the road markings to reflect only the right lane may leave the rotary.

I never leave a rotary from the left lane regardless of how the lanes are marked
If the outside lane is the only lane that may leave the rotary, then the people coming in from the inside lane would never be allowed to leave the rotary. They'd just keep going around in a circle forever.

The inside lane is for people who are going past their own next exit. If they're going around 2 exits, or 3 exits, or making a complete u-turn. In fact, if they are going to their third exit OR making a u-turn, they are -required- to enter into the inside lane. People who are on the outside lane are not -allowed- to go 3/4 or all the way around the circle.

VApeople 05-31-2021 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1953216)
The inside lane is for people who are going past their own next exit. If they're going around 2 exits, or 3 exits, or making a complete u-turn. In fact, if they are going to their third exit OR making a u-turn, they are -required- to enter into the inside lane. People who are on the outside lane are not -allowed- to go 3/4 or all the way around the circle.
You and I and most other villagers agree. However, we are aware that some drivers do not agree with us.

That is why I drive slowly thru a roundabout and always have one hand on my horn, and I use it very frequently.

Laker14 06-01-2021 04:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by C. C. Rider (Post 1952901)
They are not talking about pulling out into the intersection when the light is RED. Pull out into the intersection when the light is GREEN. Then when there's a gap in the oncoming traffic or when the oncoming traffic stops, you can make your left hand turn, even if the light has now turned RED.

That's perfectly legal because you ENTERED the intersection when the light was GREEN.
This is the way I was taught in Driver's Ed in 1969, in Ohio. Also, I was taught to keep your wheels straight while waiting, so that if you get back-ended you don't get driven into the oncoming lane.
Some young people in my community up north were killed a few years ago when they had their wheel turned anticipating the left turn, and got rear-ended. Keep the wheels straight.

J1ceasar 06-01-2021 05:08 AM
If all of the seniors would actually turn their heads to look left and right then they wouldn't be any accidents until then I'll stay in the right hand lane and they're simply is not enough time when you're doing 30 miles an hour or 50 like some of them do to go from one lane to the other to turn in 25 ft

J1ceasar 06-01-2021 05:12 AM
Again and again I believe the lights your timed so you do not speed. Please remember Leesburg itself has many many retail stores that are small and have inlets and outlets going on to the highway so the speed limit is less. It's for your safety as well as mine so next time you see someone pulling out of Wendy's you're not doing 55 mph but you're doing 35 etc etc etc. And if you don't like 27 in Leesburg please stay in the bubble

J1ceasar 06-01-2021 05:13 AM
Actually I think the main problem with the roundabouts is that most drivers are doing or trying to do 55 like a highway and passing people on the left or the right willy-nilly.

J1ceasar 06-01-2021 05:14 AM
By the way for all the complainers, the only thing that actually helps is writing to f Dot, it may take 6 months or a year but they do react to your letters by doing personal observation. I have gotten a few extra signs installed on 44

thevillagernie 06-01-2021 05:36 AM
go back up North

VApeople 06-01-2021 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1953273)
If all of the seniors would actually turn their heads to look left and right then they wouldn't be any accidents until then I'll stay in the right hand lane and they're simply is not enough time when you're doing 30 miles an hour or 50 like some of them do to go from one lane to the other to turn in 25 ft
And if some seniors would use proper punctuation in their messages, then we might be able to understand what they are trying to say.

golfing eagles 06-01-2021 05:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1953273)
If all of the seniors would actually turn their heads to look left and right then they wouldn't be any accidents until then I'll stay in the right hand lane and they're simply is not enough time when you're doing 30 miles an hour or 50 like some of them do to go from one lane to the other to turn in 25 ft
Once again I have to ask, as before, in RBs, are you seriously stating that you INTENTIONALLY stay in the right (outer) lane even if you are going around 270 to the 3rd exit?????? If so, you are not only part of the problem and not part of the solution, but EXTREMELY DANGEROUS as well to the rest of us who know what we are doing. Please stay off the road or learn to drive a RB!


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