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Bogie Shooter 09-17-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 1449367)
I am a single woman living on a golf course. Apparently there are many golfers who cannot tell the difference between a fairway and private property. I have often had as many as twenty "golfers" (trespassers ) in my yard on a given day. I have watched them beat thru my bushes with a club looking for a ball, I have found them in my front yard as I have driven up the drive.
I have stepped out of the shower at dusk to see a shadow go past the window.
I have had them within two feet of my window as I am eating.
One tried to steal a garden ornament but dropped it when yelled at by a neighbor. The golfer made a speedy exit without stopping to play golf- probably the fastest round ever played on this course.
My dog has learned the boundary of the course and our yard and seldom barks unless yard entry has been made. When my husband was dying, interruptions in his sleep were a big deal. The dog was only doing what he was taught...to warn us of intruders. Since golfers can play the course after official hours, it is sometimes almost dark when I see these unknown unregistered ( starter shack closed) people in my yards and walking next to my windows.
Yes, it is private property, I pay the taxes and do the upkeep. I do not appreciate golfers telling me that they have the "right" to be there because I live on a course.
I don't mind if they retrieve their ball when it is just inside my property and in plain view although I never understand people that can afford a cart and a set of clubs but can't afford to lose a ball. That ball is so valuable to them that not only do they invade my privacy, usually one or two more, accompany them to "help".

I fully expect everyone in this forum to jump all over me. Yes, I live on a course but if I lived on a curve in a street, I would not appreciate cars missing the curve and coming into my yard. If I lived by an airport runway, I would expect the jets not to accidentally take off my roof. However, your violation of my privacy and property rights is not an accident, it is done willfully.

I don't think many on this forum would appreciate strangers in their yards,especially as night falls.. Oh, please don't hit off my grass... the golf course landscaping crew has never visited my house to repair your divots.
I do enjoy watching the golfers (when they are on the course) and will have friendly conversations with them. I have offered shelter to golfers caught by a lightening storm without a cart.
Golf is supposed to be a "gentlemen's game" - please follow The Villages golf rules and have fun but stay on the course.
Since this is a thread about a woman alone startled by strangers in her yard, I feel I have stayed on topic.
My neighbors generally feel the same way I do.

I am a golfer (well I try) and everything you describe is unacceptable to me and the people I play golf with. I venture to say most golfers would agree with me.

Mikeod 09-17-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1449415)
I am a golfer (well I try) and everything you describe is unacceptable to me and the people I play golf with. I venture to say most golfers would agree with me.

Absolutely. The most I and those groups I play in would enter a property is to extend a ball retriever from the rough into a yard to get a ball we can see. But we never set foot in a yard.

My mom and dad lived on a golf course in CA and one day my mom got out of the shower only to see a guy in her back yard looking for his ball. To get there, he had to cross a creek, enter a gate at the back of the property and climb up a flight of stairs or climb a six foot wall. My dad put a lock on the gate after that. Unbelievable. Or maybe it is. For a golf ball. 😣

autumnspring 09-17-2017 02:29 PM

It is actually your fault
 
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Originally Posted by DigitalGranny (Post 1449369)
There is a man who lives on a cul-de-sac that backs up to our lot. He is here full-time, we are part time. Everyday, he chooses to walk his dogs through the entire depth of my yard to get to wherever he walks his dogs -and back again. My dogs, who have been trained to bark when anyone steps in our yard, go berserk! I have yelled through open windows to my dogs, "yes, I know they are in your yard. Good doggies!" One day I caught him removing some small branches stacked on the back of our lot that my husband was going to cut up for our fire pit. I went to the window and told him could have some if he needed them, but that we wanted the rest to burn. He told me was just removing them because they were an eyesore. We, of course, removed them as soon as we could. None of his windows face my back yard. He only sees it if he walks around the back of his house, or through our yard! Next trip down, I'm putting a no trespassing sign on the back corner of my lot. Some people!



With your pacifist instructions re: firewood, you have oked his behavior. Do you think a no trespassing sign will stop him?

He thinks, or perhaps wants to think his behavior is ok. YOU NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR.

Topspinmo 09-17-2017 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 1449367)
I am a single woman living on a golf course. Apparently there are many golfers who cannot tell the difference between a fairway and private property. I have often had as many as twenty "golfers" (trespassers ) in my yard on a given day. I have watched them beat thru my bushes with a club looking for a ball, I have found them in my front yard as I have driven up the drive.
I have stepped out of the shower at dusk to see a shadow go past the window.
I have had them within two feet of my window as I am eating.
One tried to steal a garden ornament but dropped it when yelled at by a neighbor. The golfer made a speedy exit without stopping to play golf- probably the fastest round ever played on this course.
My dog has learned the boundary of the course and our yard and seldom barks unless yard entry has been made. When my husband was dying, interruptions in his sleep were a big deal. The dog was only doing what he was taught...to warn us of intruders. Since golfers can play the course after official hours, it is sometimes almost dark when I see these unknown unregistered ( starter shack closed) people in my yards and walking next to my windows.
Yes, it is private property, I pay the taxes and do the upkeep. I do not appreciate golfers telling me that they have the "right" to be there because I live on a course.
I don't mind if they retrieve their ball when it is just inside my property and in plain view although I never understand people that can afford a cart and a set of clubs but can't afford to lose a ball. That ball is so valuable to them that not only do they invade my privacy, usually one or two more, accompany them to "help".

I fully expect everyone in this forum to jump all over me. Yes, I live on a course but if I lived on a curve in a street, I would not appreciate cars missing the curve and coming into my yard. If I lived by an airport runway, I would expect the jets not to accidentally take off my roof. However, your violation of my privacy and property rights is not an accident, it is done willfully.

I don't think many on this forum would appreciate strangers in their yards,especially as night falls.. Oh, please don't hit off my grass... the golf course landscaping crew has never visited my house to repair your divots.
I do enjoy watching the golfers (when they are on the course) and will have friendly conversations with them. I have offered shelter to golfers caught by a lightening storm without a cart.
Golf is supposed to be a "gentlemen's game" - please follow The Villages golf rules and have fun but stay on the course.
Since this is a thread about a woman alone startled by strangers in her yard, I feel I have stayed on topic.
My neighbors generally feel the same way I do.

You have every right to complain and you should be doing it to course manager so they can make the Ambassadors do they're JOB. CONTROL the idiots.

Golf a gentleman's game? that's an oxymoron! Your post proves it!

Gpsma 09-17-2017 03:06 PM

This is hysterical...private property at TV...the houses are so close that the concept of private property is a joke.

Yes, annoying when strangers think they can walk around. But i have had neighbors cutting through houses on my cull de sac to go see others on the street behind. Whats the big deal? Wave at me, say hello, and smile...walking on my grass doesnt upset me.

Maybee some of you come from an area where you have to post no tresspassing signs to keep the poachers away.

Polar Bear 09-17-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1449434)
This is hysterical...private property at TV...the houses are so close that the concept of private property is a joke....

The size of Villages lots is far from unique in the world of subdivisions. But that's irrelevant anyway. Private property is private property.

graciegirl 09-17-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1449428)
You have every right to complain and you should be doing it to course manager so they can make the Ambassadors do they're JOB. CONTROL the idiots.

Golf a gentleman's game? that's an oxymoron! Your post proves it!

We have lived in golf communities for the last forty years. I do think that golf is a game played by mostly well behaved people. Many people new to the game are trying it here in The Villages and many don't know the rules of behavior. Or the rules of the game either. Some are vacationers without ties to our community. That said, there are those who don't care about anybody but themselves. And that goes for almost everything. Times have changed. Sadly.

rubicon 09-17-2017 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 1449367)
I am a single woman living on a golf course. Apparently there are many golfers who cannot tell the difference between a fairway and private property. I have often had as many as twenty "golfers" (trespassers ) in my yard on a given day. I have watched them beat thru my bushes with a club looking for a ball, I have found them in my front yard as I have driven up the drive.
I have stepped out of the shower at dusk to see a shadow go past the window.
I have had them within two feet of my window as I am eating.
One tried to steal a garden ornament but dropped it when yelled at by a neighbor. The golfer made a speedy exit without stopping to play golf- probably the fastest round ever played on this course.
My dog has learned the boundary of the course and our yard and seldom barks unless yard entry has been made. When my husband was dying, interruptions in his sleep were a big deal. The dog was only doing what he was taught...to warn us of intruders. Since golfers can play the course after official hours, it is sometimes almost dark when I see these unknown unregistered ( starter shack closed) people in my yards and walking next to my windows.
Yes, it is private property, I pay the taxes and do the upkeep. I do not appreciate golfers telling me that they have the "right" to be there because I live on a course.
I don't mind if they retrieve their ball when it is just inside my property and in plain view although I never understand people that can afford a cart and a set of clubs but can't afford to lose a ball. That ball is so valuable to them that not only do they invade my privacy, usually one or two more, accompany them to "help".

I fully expect everyone in this forum to jump all over me. Yes, I live on a course but if I lived on a curve in a street, I would not appreciate cars missing the curve and coming into my yard. If I lived by an airport runway, I would expect the jets not to accidentally take off my roof. However, your violation of my privacy and property rights is not an accident, it is done willfully.

I don't think many on this forum would appreciate strangers in their yards,especially as night falls.. Oh, please don't hit off my grass... the golf course landscaping crew has never visited my house to repair your divots.
I do enjoy watching the golfers (when they are on the course) and will have friendly conversations with them. I have offered shelter to golfers caught by a lightening storm without a cart.
Golf is supposed to be a "gentlemen's game" - please follow The Villages golf rules and have fun but stay on the course.
Since this is a thread about a woman alone startled by strangers in her yard, I feel I have stayed on topic.
My neighbors generally feel the same way I do.

Bambi:

I believe what you say but I am curious to know

do you live on a championship course or an executive course? If a championship I would not ask you which of the 9 hole course you live on but only if its Palmer's Havana, etc. if you live on an executive course I would not also be so bold as to ask which one but is the course on the north side or the south side?

I asked because you describe an abuse of privacy that I have never heard in 11 years being here.

I live on a championship course and only 3 times in 11 years has anyone entered onto my property

Personal Best Regards:

fred53 09-17-2017 03:56 PM

Good grief! It matters not whether there was a for sale sign...IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY! What don't some of you understand? Basic respect for others dictates you do not go on other peoples property without permission!!! Especially on their lawn or beside/behind the domicile.

Unbelievable that some of you make excuses for such rude behavior. It's COMMON BLOODY SENSE!!!!!!!

rubicon 09-17-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1448990)
They may have been curious from the wide spread mailing showing your beautiful home for sale but that doesn't forgive what they did. I wouldn't put up no trespassing signs since your house is for sale. This is probably an isolated instance.

GG if you are correct and the house is up for sale does trespassing still apply? Are the people who want a peek at here home now invitees?

Is it in her best interest to scare off potential buyers?
suppose a person wanting to move to TV gets a call from a friend living here and says I believe there is a house for sale that will fit your need. And the prospective buyer says can you go by the house and take a look, perhaps even some photos....just saying

Gpsma 09-17-2017 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1449443)
Good grief! It matters not whether there was a for sale sign...IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY! What don't some of you understand? Basic respect for others dictates you do not go on other peoples property without permission!!! Especially on their lawn or beside/behind the domicile.

Unbelievable that some of you make excuses for such rude behavior. It's COMMON BLOODY SENSE!!!!!!!

Would it upset you if your neighbor to your right walked across your lawn to see the neighborto your left?

rubicon 09-17-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1449434)
This is hysterical...private property at TV...the houses are so close that the concept of private property is a joke.

Yes, annoying when strangers think they can walk around. But i have had neighbors cutting through houses on my cull de sac to go see others on the street behind. Whats the big deal? Wave at me, say hello, and smile...walking on my grass doesnt upset me.

Maybee some of you come from an area where you have to post no tresspassing signs to keep the poachers away.

Gpsma: points well taken:D

Personal Best Regards:

jsw14 09-17-2017 05:17 PM

Trespassing HUMMM, How about what happen too me today... My neighbor (two doors down) came over when I was in my house (in the bathroom) & turned down my radio in the garage cause it was toooo loud..... It had to be her, cause I asked my wife if she turned it down when she came back from her friends house. The wife said NO she didn't touch the radio... We have had Run-in's with this neighbor before............ Trespassing!!!!

asianthree 09-17-2017 05:31 PM

Well one can always resort to what we do with the wildlife in the garden. Turn on the sprinklers. MAke them go away, and alexia does it for me

Sandtrap328 09-17-2017 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jsw14 (Post 1449461)
Trespassing HUMMM, How about what happen too me today... My neighbor (two doors down) came over when I was in my house (in the bathroom) & turned down my radio in the garage cause it was toooo loud..... It had to be her, cause I asked my wife if she turned it down when she came back from her friends house. The wife said NO she didn't touch the radio... We have had Run-in's with this neighbor before............ Trespassing!!!!

Firstly, as Judge Judy would say, "You have no PROOF it was the neighbor lady". You did not see her do it.

Secondly, was your garage door open while you were in the house? Not a wise move, my friend.

Thirdly, if the radio was loud enough to bother your neighbors two doors away WITH the garage door open, it was TOO loud!

You were lucky she (if it was the neighbor) just turned the volume down instead of taking the bothersome (to her) radio. You would have no proof of who took it since you were otherwise disposed.

Or she could have reported YOU to the Sheriff for disturbing HER -
(Loud radio with the garage door open and you not in the garage)


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