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Bill14564 09-04-2025 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 2458994)
It’s called freedom of speech in a public place.no laws are broken..😀

Possibly not which could be why he was trespassed. But details matter and we are hearing only one, fairly biased side of the story.

CarlR33 09-04-2025 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 2458994)
It’s called freedom of speech in a public place.no laws are broken..😀

Other side of the story would help.

fishon 09-05-2025 04:32 AM

You’ll not get it.
The story teller won’t give all the facts. If you had the facts you would probably not be outraged like the story teller wants.

SaucyJim 09-05-2025 05:09 AM

Wow. This thread is much ado about nothing. Was this incident even newsworthy enough to make the local paper?

Asking for a friend.

golfing eagles 09-05-2025 05:27 AM

Where exactly did this occur???
How was it reported????
Was he arrested????
Had he returned to a site from which he was already trespassed???
Did he have a reason for trespassing???
Is he homeless or mentally ill???

The entire OP is worthless without those answers

thevillages2013 09-05-2025 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2459009)
Where exactly did this occur???
How was it reported????
Was he arrested????
Had he returned to a site from which he was already trespassed???
Did he have a reason for trespassing???
Is he homeless or mentally ill???

The entire OP is worthless without those answers

Also, did he have pants on?!

Maker 09-05-2025 05:51 AM

To be trespassed, one needs to be on private property. Have been asked to leave or committed a crime (like shoplifting).
It is a civil complaint by a private entity against somebody.
You cannot be trespassed from public property or public buildings.

IF (big if here) a trespass order was entered then WHO is the order protecting? Was the person ever on their private property? Were they asked to leave?

Signs are protected speech according to the Supreme Court. No person or entity can prevent displaying signs - especially in public or on their own property.
FYI - Deed restrictions are also unconstitutional per SCOTUS (see Reed vs Gilbert AZ). One can sign away their 1st amendment right, but they can also reclaim that right at any time. That's the power of constitutionally protected rights.

HOWEVER - a sign advocating something illegal, or placed in such a manner as to cause an unsafe condition, might have consequences. One has the right to free speech, but that does not isolate them from the consequences of that speech. Think of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. Or disrupting a concert - you can be asked to leave because it is private property.

IF you were trespassed from a private area, and you were only in a public place (sidewalk) (not on their private property) then you likely have a case against the police and against the person that filed the complaint. A police officer who issued that order should have known better. My guess is that there are details missing from OP's rant.

bark4me 09-05-2025 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 2458959)
How can a person be trespassed from the villages for holding a god bless the homeless vets sign. I thought the roads were public and sidewalks are public…Iknow the squares are private property but open to the public.

You need to give more information. You gave very vague info.

BrianL99 09-05-2025 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2459011)
...

... Signs are protected speech according to the Supreme Court. No person or entity can prevent displaying signs - especially in public or on their own property.
FYI - Deed restrictions are also unconstitutional per SCOTUS (see Reed vs Gilbert AZ). One can sign away their 1st amendment right, but they can also reclaim that right at any time. That's the power of constitutionally protected rights.

Reed vs Town of Gilbert doesn't mention HOA's, in any way.

Deed Restrictions are private agreements and the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, nor does the US Constitution regulate private contracts.

If you paid an attorney for that legal opinion, is it too late to request a refund?

Rsb23 09-05-2025 06:34 AM

WoW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSerg (Post 2459012)
All our constitutional rights are under attack, wake up America!

That’s about as paranoid as it gets. The sky is not really falling for most of us. All is over a half told story without all the facts. Wow

Bill14564 09-05-2025 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 2458959)
How can a person be trespassed from the villages for holding a god bless the homeless vets sign. I thought the roads were public and sidewalks are public…Iknow the squares are private property but open to the public.

By any chance is there a link to a video so we can all see what happened?

Bay Kid 09-05-2025 07:11 AM

They make a living???

Indydealmaker 09-05-2025 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 2458959)
How can a person be trespassed from the villages for holding a god bless the homeless vets sign. I thought the roads were public and sidewalks are public…Iknow the squares are private property but open to the public.

I am sure this did not happen as you have claimed. Why not try being completely honest?

Heytubes 09-05-2025 07:15 AM

As a heads up: most likely not a vet, just a druggie saying that and a pat down would turn up drug paraphernalia which would make them no longer homeless.

GATORBILL66 09-05-2025 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 2458959)
How can a person be trespassed from the villages for holding a god bless the homeless vets sign. I thought the roads were public and sidewalks are public…Iknow the squares are private property but open to the public.


We don't need signs like that in the villages! There is plenty of help for veterans in and around the villages. No veteran should be homeless with all the help that offered to them!


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