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DrHitch 03-31-2024 12:19 PM

Trolley routes for SPECIAL events
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2317430)
Where will they come FROM? What will be their route? How many of these buses will there be? Where do they pick passengers up, on their way to the squares?.

My thoughts are square-to-square only....each square has a sales office. The trolleys drop off and pick up in BACK of each sales office. Run on 1/2 hour schedule to minimize congested parking

Marathon Man 03-31-2024 12:26 PM

This has been brought up before. The idea that some sort of public transportation between the squares could be financial self-sustaining seems a far reach to me. That would put the costs on the residents. I vote no. Sorry. I just don't believe that there is a need or enough of an interest. Some interest, yes. Enough interest, no.

Rainger99 03-31-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2317493)
This has been brought up before. The idea that some sort of public transportation between the squares could be financial self-sustaining seems a far reach to me. That would put the costs on the residents. I vote no. Sorry. I just don't believe that there is a need or enough of an interest. Some interest, yes. Enough interest, no.

You said you don’t “believe that there is a need or enough of an interest”.

Would you oppose a trial period? Just to see if you are correct?

Normal 03-31-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2317493)
This has been brought up before. The idea that some sort of public transportation between the squares could be financial self-sustaining seems a far reach to me. That would put the costs on the residents. I vote no. Sorry. I just don't believe that there is a need or enough of an interest. Some interest, yes. Enough interest, no.

Ya, golf carts are enough. It takes me when and where I want to go.

Bogie Shooter 03-31-2024 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DrHitch (Post 2317490)
My thoughts are square-to-square only....each square has a sales office. The trolleys drop off and pick up in BACK of each sales office. Run on 1/2 hour schedule to minimize congested parking

How does this help those that cannot drive?

Bogie Shooter 03-31-2024 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2317497)
You said you don’t “believe that there is a need or enough of an interest”.

Would you oppose a trial period? Just to see if you are correct?

Based on what?

jimjamuser 03-31-2024 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2317039)
The trolley would not be able to go door to door. Residents would still have to drive. With most of TV closing by 9 pm, how many trips could it make back and forth to each square?

Riders could park in some church's parking lot. or rec dept lot and the trolley could pick them up. Just say that it is one more advantage of Village life that the Real Estate salespeople could brag about. Then if it was an electric trolley, we could further brag about how PROGRESSIVE TV Land really is.

Rainger99 03-31-2024 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2317502)
Based on what?

Based on usage. If 5 people use it each day we would realize that there is not enough interest. If the trolleys are 75% full, we would realize that there is sufficient interest.

Papa_lecki 03-31-2024 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2317508)
Riders could park in some church's parking lot. or rec dept lot and the trolley could pick them up. Just say that it is one more advantage of Village life that the Real Estate salespeople could brag about. Then if it was an electric trolley, we could further brag about how PROGRESSIVE TV Land really is.

I don’t think anyone is buying or not buying in the villages based on Trolleys driving between LSL and Brownwood.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-31-2024 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DrHitch (Post 2317490)
My thoughts are square-to-square only....each square has a sales office. The trolleys drop off and pick up in BACK of each sales office. Run on 1/2 hour schedule to minimize congested parking

That means people have to drive to the squares, to get a ride to the square. The whole point of having a trolley/tram system within the Villages, is to avoid having to drive to the square.

Papa_lecki 03-31-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2317519)
That means people have to drive to the squares, to get a ride to the square. The whole point of having a trolley/tram system within the Villages, is to avoid having to drive to the square.

Between 466 and 4661 there are 25 postal stations. i did not count between 466A and 44.
Do the math, it will take 60 minutes to get from LSL to brownwood.
ITT could be intriguing once, no one is riding more than once.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-31-2024 02:42 PM

I think people are considering this idea from the wrong perspective, for the wrong reasons. The idea of a trolley/tram system isn't to get people from one square to another, and it's also not to eliminate driving.

It's to minimize driving outside the "relative safety" of a residential village area, to get to either non-residential village areas, or to someone else's residential village area. Not eliminate it - just minimize it. To reduce traffic outside the residential village areas while providing a service to people who would most benefit from the service. Who would most benefit? People who PREFER not to drive, or can't drive cars anymore, CAN drive golf carts, but don't really want to. Or who don't feel comfortable driving on the bigger roads, or into the traffic of the squares or other commercial areas. It would also serve those who live in immediate proximity to the pickup/dropoff stops, such as the houses next door to or right behind rec centers, or (for example) the townhouses that surround Spanish Springs, or the Cottages at Sumter.

There are a lot of people who would love to not need to drive "into town" every time they want to come into town, especially if it's for dinner, when the return trip would be at night. Or on festival days when you spend an hour, white-knuckled and gritting your teeth, just to find a parking space and then having to walk four blocks to the festival because there just aren't any, any closer.

This would relieve some folks - while at the same time, reducing the number of vehicles at these destination points. Yes, they still have to get to a rec center to be picked up. But these are people who are still able-bodied and COULD drive, even if it's only driving their golf cart and not their cars anymore. It's also people who /shouldn't/ be driving anymore, but do anyway because how else are they going to get anywhere? The shorter distance they have to go, the less likely they are to cause an accident.

JoMar 03-31-2024 02:44 PM

Remember when they trialed valet parking in SS?

Stu from NYC 03-31-2024 04:35 PM

This can be discussed until the cows come home but does anyone really think this is going to happen?

If this was of interest would see a lot more taxis and ubers in the bubble

Shipping up to Boston 03-31-2024 05:12 PM

This is a very business savvy developer. Other than more golf cart pathways, that may be all you see for awhile. The recent acquisition of the 3500 acre Monarch Ranch coupled with new I-75 interchange....who knows, maybe down the road they may be thinking an Intermodal passenger component for connectivity. They are a patient group and seem to read the tea leaves pretty well...


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