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fdpaq0580 04-01-2024 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2317775)
I agree too.

Too many pie in the sky wishes .......somebody's gotta pay for.

Only the naysayers assume it will be an amenity or somehow "free". Those who recognize that is worthy of consideration also assume there will be a charge of some kind associated with whatever public transport might be available. If there were a taxi company and I called a cab, I would expect to pay a reasonable fare for the miles driven. Even bus or shuttle service of some sort would require riders to pay a fare. So that naysayers argument is off the table.

fdpaq0580 04-01-2024 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2317566)
Another silly idea.

Quit the beverages would be a better idea.

Kill joy! It's not like you would have to pay for it. God forbid. Riders pay a fare. No reason to even worry about it now.

fdpaq0580 04-01-2024 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2317572)
It’s whatever we want, because it won’t become a reality.

It’s actually a large bus that flies to everyone’s house, like the Jetsons.

Of course you are just being silly. If enough people see that a taxi company or bus or shuttle service is desirable as an alternative transport option and can be run efficiently, then it could become a reality.

fdpaq0580 04-01-2024 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2317701)
Yes, the thoughts come right in with rainbows, candy sprinkles and pink unicorns.

And are immediately ridiculed. Alternative transportation is a highly desirable service in a community that is aging. If I were a younger person looking to start a business, I would look for a niche that is overlooked in an area were product or service would be desired if made available. Taxi service could be a nice business for an individual or group of investors. To turn hoses up without even considering the possibilities? Of course for those among us who have their town car with chauffeur need not concern themselves with the needs of the hoi-palloi.

Shipping up to Boston 04-02-2024 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2317813)
And are immediately ridiculed. Alternative transportation is a highly desirable service in a community that is aging. If I were a younger person looking to start a business, I would look for a niche that is overlooked in an area were product or service would be desired if made available. Taxi service could be a nice business for an individual or group of investors. To turn hoses up without even considering the possibilities? Of course for those among us who have their town car with chauffeur need not concern themselves with the needs of the hoi-palloi.

So as you know, this thread started out with the question of the need for and/or how sustainable a trolley system here in TV would be. Not to rehash the prior commentary on both....but do you not think the developer has looked at this issue in the past, I don’t know 20 years? It’s not like in a 55+ retirement community that said developer doesn’t have realization that it, on some levels, becomes an aging and limited mobility population....agreed. That said, in an entrepreneurial economy as rich as ours...don’t you think if rideshares, taxis, shuttle or bus services saw the need that has been expressed here....that all the above wouldn’t be deployed all over the region to date? Why is that? I know of no restrictions or ordinance that would restrict it. Maybe it’s just as simple as has been stated many times here.....the ‘demand’ doesn’t justify the need.

I sent a link earlier to another poster. Again, it’s a good option and starting point for those who need an affordable and dedicated assist on occasion...


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Nana2Teddy 04-02-2024 07:01 AM

We rode one of these trolleys recently from Sawgrass to the Street of Dreams to see the model homes, and I had trouble climbing up and down the fairly steep steps to get in and out of it. I’m a pretty spry 70 y/o with just minor arthritis in my knees, but I definitely can’t see myself climbing in and out of the trolleys on a regular basis. They’d need some serious modification. Also, wouldn’t they have to legally be handicap accessible to become public transportation? I don’t know the FL laws regarding accessibility.

retiredguy123 04-02-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2317866)
We rode one of these trolleys recently from Sawgrass to the Street of Dreams to see the model homes, and I had trouble climbing up and down the fairly steep steps to get in and out of it. I’m a pretty spry 70 y/o with just minor arthritis in my knees, but I definitely can’t see myself climbing in and out of the trolleys on a regular basis. They’d need some serious modification. Also, wouldn’t they have to legally be handicap accessible to become public transportation? I don’t know the FL laws regarding accessibility.

Good question, but aren't they already being used as public transportation?

Bogie Shooter 04-02-2024 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2317869)
Good question, but aren't they already being used as public transportation?

Private.

retiredguy123 04-02-2024 07:15 AM

A lot of posters seem to think that the squares are a popular destination. But, I rarely go to the squares.

retiredguy123 04-02-2024 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2317871)
Private.

How so? They offer free tours of The Villages to the public. How would anything change if they started to take people to other locations in The Villages?

Velvet 04-02-2024 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2317809)
This may be of help to you. They will deviate from existing routes for ‘medical appointments’. At the least, if you’re advocating for services like this or in the other two counties, this may be a good starting point...

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Thank you, I’m fine. At this time I drive between two homes 19 hours apart. Golf cart works fine too (now that I use the kill switch to spare the battery). But my aunt at 78 was not fine. She could not do everything needed after her husband died. What she needed was public transportation to do many things; go shopping, go to doctor appointments, go for entertainment… in other words, what people do everyday. She had to sell the house she lived in for 32 years and go into independent living. She had to leave her activities and her friends she could just drop in with.

Don’t kid yourself because you can drive now. You’re going to need this service if you stay here. Especially if your spouse should pass away before you. Why do you think there is public transportation, pretty well everywhere in the world?

Shipping up to Boston 04-02-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2317882)
Thank you, I’m fine. At this time I drive between two homes 19 hours apart. Golf cart works fine too (now that I use the kill switch to spare the battery). But my aunt at 78 was not fine. She could not do everything needed after her husband died. What she needed was public transportation to do many things; go shopping, go to doctor appointments, go for entertainment… in other words, what people do everyday. She had to sell the house she lived in for 32 years and go into independent living. She had to leave her activities and her friends she could just drop in with.

Don’t kid yourself because you can drive now. You’re going to need this service if you stay here. Especially if your spouse should pass away before you. Why do you think there is public transportation, pretty well everywhere in the world?

I appreciate your post on many levels. As you know, and we both may be pivoting a little bit here....but TV is an ‘active’ retirement community. You are correct, myself included, the day will come when properties and neighborhoods such as this, the ones many of us came from or still split time between.....become insufficient to meet the many needs we will encompass. That is the difficult decisions families make on behalf of loved ones daily in this country.

fdpaq0580 04-02-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2317872)
A lot of posters seem to think that the squares are a popular destination. But, I rarely go to the squares.

For bus/shuttle service, think of the squares as hubs where folks could transfer to another line, if needed. And rec centers as community pu and drop off locations for shuttles going to the squares.

Bogie Shooter 04-02-2024 10:12 AM

Some threads just get more silly as time goes by .

fdpaq0580 04-02-2024 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2317850)
So as you know, this thread started out with the question of the need for and/or how sustainable a trolley system here in TV would be. Not to rehash the prior commentary on both....but do you not think the developer has looked at this issue in the past, I don’t know 20 years? It’s not like in a 55+ retirement community that said developer doesn’t have realization that it, on some levels, becomes an aging and limited mobility population....agreed. That said, in an entrepreneurial economy as rich as ours...don’t you think if rideshares, taxis, shuttle or bus services saw the need that has been expressed here....that all the above wouldn’t be deployed all over the region to date? Why is that? I know of no restrictions or ordinance that would restrict it. Maybe it’s just as simple as has been stated many times here.....the ‘demand’ doesn’t justify the need.

I sent a link earlier to another poster. Again, it’s a good option and starting point for those who need an affordable and dedicated assist on occasion...


Reservations and Routes | Sumter County, FL - Official Website

The developer put a lot of thought into creating the villages, but their focus was on selling homes and activities, the lifestyle. But they couldn't think of everything. And the lifestyle changes and needs change.
Lots of room for entrepreneurs to come up with all kinds of sales or services to fill a void. Besides, the developer already has a business. Real-estate! Let others provide food, clothing, autos, hair and nail salons, etc. Even taxi service.


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