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coralway 04-23-2024 05:12 PM

doesn't matter - buy the stock, the past 2 years + 155%. So far this year +72%

MrLonzo 04-23-2024 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gorillarick (Post 2324438)
Last week I heard "on the 44." Made sense if you are only catering to Villagers.

But 44 is too close to Clermont. 466 will attract as far away as Ocala.

So those south of 44 count your blessings. You have a choice of two Costco's.

Odds are, after this one, the next new Costco will be in Ocala...

Michael 61 04-23-2024 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLonzo (Post 2324668)
Odds are, after this one, the next new Costco will be in Ocala...

Or Gainesville

margaretmattson 04-24-2024 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2324395)
I cannot believe Costco would ever build in that location. On a main road maybe where there are families to shop there. My son spends $700 when he goes with 3 kids/wife. Seriously can you imagine the traffic jam on 466 and that little road where it would be located? Doesn't make sense - villagers with the top cart seat filled with items. LOL

Costco, most likely, is not that interested in our retirement community. Take a look around 466. Plenty of family homes, apartments, and townhomes. Not to mention families living in Ocala and other neighboring towns. Currently, Middleton is located far off the beaten path with no major thoroughfares. No big box store will be interested in that area until it is completely built to Webster.

You are going to have to face reality. Homes farthest south will not see major commercial FOR MANY YEARS. The Villages recently celebrated Spanish Spring's Anniversary. Does that give you a clue how long it takes for big store interest? 30 yrs for it to happen in Spanish Springs!

Please do not cite Home Depot or Lowes to prove differently. Both sell building materials and both will do well in a construction area.

ithos 04-24-2024 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jminnis (Post 2324623)
Great news. Love Costco. It's a destination!

For some it is more like a cult. I'll check it out. Maybe I'll become a groupie too.

Angelhug52 04-24-2024 05:37 AM

I wonder if the value of our homes,we are less then 2 miles from building site, will increase or decrease? Defining to make shopping in that area ugly during construction. After it opens will be interesting to see how Fresh Market, HomeGoods and Walmart survive. Progress! No longer the pleasent friendly area.

Shipping up to Boston 04-24-2024 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2324685)
Costco, most likely, is not that interested in our retirement community. Take a look around 466. Plenty of family homes, apartments, and townhomes. Not to mention families living in Ocala and other neighboring towns. Currently, Middleton is located far off the beaten path with no major thoroughfares. No big box store will be interested in that area until it is completely built to Webster.

You are going to have to face reality. Homes farthest south will not see major commercial FOR MANY YEARS. The Villages recently celebrated Spanish Spring's Anniversary. Does that give you a clue how long it takes for big store interest? 30 yrs for it to happen in Spanish Springs!

Please do not cite Home Depot or Lowes to prove differently. Both sell building materials and both will do well in a construction area.

It’s always about supply and demand. 30 years ago there probably wasn’t a demand and many big box retailers didn’t exist in those days and if they did....weren’t siting in areas like that. Things evolve. You can bet the larger chains...using existing marketing, would site on every block if the demand is there. Middleton will be primed for a commercial component just based on the demo it will serve. It’s not going to take decades for those needs to be met

Skelly 04-24-2024 06:16 AM

Skelly
 
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Originally Posted by 2newyorkers (Post 2324207)
Per Sumter Commissioners, Costco is going to be built next to Hobby Lobby. Can it really be true?

While in Costco my friend and I asked if Costco was coming to the Villages,
They said yes, on route 44 near Russell Stover.

jump4 04-24-2024 06:38 AM

The Daily Sun article said Costco was considering locating in the Villages. It is not a done deal. Furthermore, I think it is highly unlikely they would locate in the middle of The Villages near Oxford. In my experience, they are always located close to an Interstate so Wildwood would seem to be a more likely location. Also, I don't believe Costco would be willing to give any percentage of their profit to the Developer (as is apparently required on Developer-owned land).

So, if a Costco is built near the Villages, I predict a Wildwood or Ocala location. Either of these would be a reasonable distance from their current Clermont and Wesley Chapel locations.

:laugh::spoken:


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Originally Posted by 2newyorkers (Post 2324207)
Per Sumter Commissioners, Costco is going to be built next to Hobby Lobby. Can it really be true?


Causey 04-24-2024 06:42 AM

I like the convenience of Publix, and I am willing to pay for it. Clean well run stores, with everything I need.
A new Costco will help alleviate the crowds of riff-raff in there now.

UsuallyLurking 04-24-2024 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KAM+6 (Post 2324601)
I'm looking at a older map and it appears that from LSL take Buena Vista and then Belvedere Blvd. Is this the correct golf cart way to that area?

That will work. For those speed demons who insist on shaving seconds off their trip time going further down Buena Vista would be an option.

Nana2Teddy 04-24-2024 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MrLonzo (Post 2324412)
I agree! I wonder lately how some of these retailers decide where to build new stores. It used to be the infrastructure was built first (including shopping areas), then residential neighborhoods built up around it. Now it's just the opposite! Have you seen the development south of Warm Springs lately? A year from now there will be thousands of new residents but no place within 20 minutes to buy groceries (except of course the over-priced Publix). And still no Costco within a 40 minute drive.

Still shaking my head at Home Depot building a new store 'steps' from Lowes on 466A when there's another one a stone's throw away in Lady Lake. Why not build SOMETHING, ANYTHING... south of 44??

We drove to Clermont Costco from DeLuna two days ago in less than 30 minutes via turnpike. It’s even closer to the newest villages south of us.

mrf0151 04-24-2024 06:57 AM

Was in the Clermont Costco recently and observed at the checkout line that all the baskets were completely full, piled high.
When we go into the Sams here in the TV area you do not see that as much. We Villagers do not shop like we did when we were raising families. I have to think that the volume of sales at the Sams on 441 must be much lower than the national average.
My point is why would Costco build inside The Villages? I agree that a Costco location off highway 75 would make much more sense for corporate profits.

Buckeye Bill 04-24-2024 07:02 AM

Would be nice perhaps might get a parking space at Sam’s

Nana2Teddy 04-24-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeycereal (Post 2324517)
Back in 2018 I joined a Costco just because of their trays of pesto salmon. Best I had ever had from a store and at a very good price. So I'll be joining for that again, plus other things. Now if I can only find a store with those individual bins for Jelly Bellys I am set!

Russell Stovers on 44 has lots of individual bins of Jelly Bellys along the back wall of the store. Otherwise next closest is probably at Disney Springs.

Nana2Teddy 04-24-2024 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2324531)
Never been a big fan of the place. Even when my kids were younger we never needed a 96oz box of Cheerios. I still patronize local butchers and prefer that setting and helping the little guy. Something about buying my food that shares shelf space with Bridgestone all season tires doesnt work for me. Still adjusting to how retirees, most on TOTV...that talk mostly about eating out...need to bulk shop but as posted earlier, to each his/her own. Im sure most go for the all you can sample buffet in the aisles anyway...*

*JM, if we're still on speaking terms, please insert 'sarcasm' meme here

Thankfully, they keep the tires in a separate shop away from the food, lol.

RoadToad 04-24-2024 07:36 AM

Perspective ??
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2324210)
I don’t understand the fascination with store where you have to paid to walk in door?

From that view point, same could be postulated of a Church ??

:throwtomatoes:

RoadToad 04-24-2024 07:38 AM

Reality
 
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Originally Posted by RoadToad (Post 2324771)
From that view point, same could be postulated of a Church ??

:throwtomatoes:

It's a membership fee.
Provides you access to deeply discounted bulk shopping benefits.

Bob.Betty 04-24-2024 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2324210)
I don’t understand the fascination with store where you have to paid to walk in door?

if you shop wisely you will make up the $60.00 in savings

Shipping up to Boston 04-24-2024 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RoadToad (Post 2324771)
From that view point, same could be postulated of a Church ??

:throwtomatoes:

Oh boy...

JMintzer 04-24-2024 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2324531)
Never been a big fan of the place. Even when my kids were younger we never needed a 96oz box of Cheerios. I still patronize local butchers and prefer that setting and helping the little guy. Something about buying my food that shares shelf space with Bridgestone all season tires doesnt work for me. Still adjusting to how retirees, most on TOTV...that talk mostly about eating out...need to bulk shop but as posted earlier, to each his/her own. Im sure most go for the all you can sample buffet in the aisles anyway...*

*JM, if we're still on speaking terms, please insert 'sarcasm' meme here

I'm not your servant! ;)

https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m...m8qco1_400.gif

And tell me you've never shopped at Costco without telling me you've never shopped at Costco...

"food sharing shelf space with tires..." :rolleyes:

Shipping up to Boston 04-24-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2324785)
I'm not your servant! ;)

https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m...m8qco1_400.gif

And tell me you've never shopped at Costco without telling me you've never shopped at Costco...

"food sharing shelf space with tires..." :rolleyes:

Definitely been there....about as long as Dave Portnoy was doing his Barstool pizza review there.

*Thanks for accommodating the meme request servant....errr sir!

RRGuyNJ 04-24-2024 08:20 AM

I agree -- somewhat
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2324210)
I don’t understand the fascination with store where you have to paid to walk in door?

I agree with why is Costco such a huge topic.
But, we currently have memberships to Costco and Sams Club and we do save enough money to easily pay the membership fees a few times over. Keep in mind, just because it's at one of the huge membership stores, it's not always the best deal. With Costco, we pay for our membership just with our annual eyeglass purchase alone.

margaretmattson 04-24-2024 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2324709)
It’s always about supply and demand. 30 years ago there probably wasn’t a demand and many big box retailers didn’t exist in those days and if they did....weren’t siting in areas like that. Things evolve. You can bet the larger chains...using existing marketing, would site on every block if the demand is there. Middleton will be primed for a commercial component just based on the demo it will serve. It’s not going to take decades for those needs to be met

What DID NOT exist years ago near Spanish Springs and Sumter were major thouroughfares. 301 and 466 were NOT heavily travelled like they are today. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Middleton will NOT be heavily travelled until construction on remaining vacant land is complete. A major box store will not be interested until this happens. Right now, all the Developer has is a promise to complete. Anything can happen between now and then. Major commercial will not risk their money on a promise.

Shipping up to Boston 04-24-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2324802)
What DID NOT exist years ago near Spanish Springs and Sumter were major thouroughfares. 301 and 466 were NOT heavily travelled like they are today. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Middleton will NOT be heavily travelled until construction on remaining vacant land is complete. A major box store will not be interested until this happens. Right now, all the Developer has is a promise to complete. Anything can happen between now and then. Major commercial will not risk their money on a promise.

I'll bet you a 400ct. box of Rice Krispie treats from Costco....that it happens quicker than '30 years'! ;)

Bogie Shooter 04-24-2024 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2324802)
What DID NOT exist years ago near Spanish Springs and Sumter were major thouroughfares. 301 and 466 were NOT heavily travelled like they are today. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Middleton will NOT be heavily travelled until construction on remaining vacant land is complete. A major box store will not be interested until this happens. Right now, all the Developer has is a promise to complete. Anything can happen between now and then. Major commercial will not risk their money on a promise.

When did you first move to The Villages?

Carlsondm 04-24-2024 08:35 AM

Our Lansing, Michigan store took about 18 months after the newspaper announcement.

Lottoguy 04-24-2024 08:57 AM

I wonder if my email's and suggested site for this Costco finallly worked out? In the past six years I've gone on their web site to suggest The Villages as a possible new addition to their growing empire. I also told them about the large piece of land where many of us went to to get our Covid shots back in January 2021.

Lottoguy 04-24-2024 09:04 AM

The traffic will be crazy because this is where most of the shopping in The Villages is now located. The south looks desirable to you because this area is lacking. I really thought that Costco would maybe build down there. But, now this location is closer to Ocala and also Gainsville. Where many young families are living.

Mazjaz 04-24-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2324214)
Yes it is true. Verified by Goldwingnut. Also a perfect central location for all of TV. A super Walmart nearby. Next to Marshalls and across the street from Fresh Market. Red Lobster and Olive Garden a stone's throw away. All your needs in one location.

That is the worst location in TV for a Costco. Traffic at that location is already a nightmare and Costco getting trucks to that location is not ideal.
Hopefully Costco is only preliminary looking at that an other locations.

margaretmattson 04-24-2024 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2324807)
I'll bet you a 400ct. box of Rice Krispie treats from Costco....that it happens quicker than '30 years'! ;)

Too funny. Yeah, the fast building pace will make it much sooner. But, it is still going to be years.

Aces4 04-24-2024 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2324807)
I'll bet you a 400ct. box of Rice Krispie treats from Costco....that it happens quicker than '30 years'! ;)


Lol, in thirty years none of us will care. We arrived here in 2004 and the changes are as Margaret indicated.

It was really a cool place then but I think for the good of The Villages, it would have been better for the new Costco to be on the south end of Ocala.

The traffic and influx of surrounding neighbors to shop Costco will be extremely undesirable for The Villages. We would always prefer to drive 20-30 minutes rather than have that constant congestion. Now Ocala residents will be in the crowd filling the streets here.

justjim 04-24-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob.Betty (Post 2324780)
if you shop wisely you will make up the $60.00 in savings

Yes, I remember when we purchased our first wholesale club card. We were looking for a printer and I had already checked Best Buy and Office Depot. Sam’s club had a promotion and a friend had a Sam’s card. We found a very large stack of printers just inside the front door. $60 cheaper than Best Buy for the exact printer. More than paid for my card. Sam’s club gas was always the lowest in the area. Still is and I buy 90% of my gas there. Tires, TV’s and other large items cheaper at Sam’s. My wife and her sister go there occasionally and share some of the bulk groceries. We get items delivered to our door free with their “plus” card. Occasionally, we will have pizza or hot dogs there for lunch if we are shopping. We purchase (renew) Sam’s cards for our four adult grandchildren at Christmas every year. They like Sam’s. Such a deal! I suspect Costco has great deals also and competition is always a good idea.

rustyp 04-24-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mazjaz (Post 2324842)
That is the worst location in TV for a Costco. Traffic at that location is already a nightmare and Costco getting trucks to that location is not ideal.
Hopefully Costco is only preliminary looking at that an other locations.

Ever notice car dealers locate next to each other ? Home Depot is next to A Lowes. Chain restaurants tend to build in a row. Obviously the Sumter County legislators don't feel traffic is maxed out on 466.

justjim 04-24-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mazjaz (Post 2324842)
That is the worst location in TV for a Costco. Traffic at that location is already a nightmare and Costco getting trucks to that location is not ideal.
Hopefully Costco is only preliminary looking at that an other locations.

I can assure you a company like Costco has done due diligence for the “right” place to build their wholesale club. The right place for you and me might be clearly different than the best place for Costco to do business.

Aces4 04-24-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2324859)
Ever notice car dealers locate next to each other ? Home Depot is next to A Lowes. Chain restaurants tend to build in a row. Obviously the Sumter County legislators don't feel traffic is maxed out on 466.



Perhaps maxing out 466 by Sumter County legislators is good for them but not so hot for the residents of The Villages. Time will tell.

rustyp 04-24-2024 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2324888)
Perhaps maxing out 466 by Sumter County legislators is good for them but not so hot for the residents of The Villages. Time will tell.

I can say the same about building houses south of 466A.

Aces4 04-24-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2324890)
I can say the same about building houses south of 466A.


I think, Rusty, The Villages residents in their golf carts are far different from the massive automotive influx from outside the perimeter. As I said time will tell and we'll hope for the best.

ElDiabloJoe 04-24-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BOWRUNNER (Post 2324443)
:agree: its nuts to pay to spend your money!

Many years ago, someone in my sphere wanted a certain pair of sunglasses for a gift (Birthday or Christmas - I can't remember). They were expensive for back then, something like $120. I told myself if I could find them cheaper at Costco (Price Club actually, before it was Costco) even after the membership fee of $30 or whatever it was then, I would join.

Well, they had the sunglasses for $80. So I paid the $30 membership plus the $80 item cost, and still saved $10. That type of saving for me has continued all these many years - especially with the 2% $120 membership. I save more than $60 on it each year so it is the same cost to me as the standard $60 membership, plus I save more.

Costco's primary business model isn't necessarily profit margin on selling things, it's selling memberships. That is why things are so much less, and that is why I continue to renew and shop there every year.

Ex: For the same price as the grocery store, I get a package of Charmin twice as big as that sold at the grocery store. I get new Michelin windshield wipers every year for $8 each, they are $30 at the auto parts store. For ten cents more than the half-gallon of milk I get at the grocery store I can get a full gallon at Costco. Just a few simple first-hand examples.

Truthfully however, I should delete this post. I mean, if I convince you to go there and join and shop there, then I have created even longer gas lines and a more crowded shopping experience than I would other wise get. So forget everything I said, you just keep shopping at Publix and BJs and I'll be perfectly happy!

Bogie Shooter 04-24-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2324888)
Perhaps maxing out 466 by Sumter County legislators is good for them but not so hot for the residents of The Villages. Time will tell.

What part are the commissioners playing?


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