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Warren Kiefer 07-06-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1082912)
Only in the sense that we, after the sale to the CCDD, pay our amenity fees to the CCDD, instead of to the Developer. In other words, if things work as planned after the sale, everything is fine from the residents' perspective. We keep paying the same amenity fees, but they go to the CCDD instead of to the Developer.

The only problem for residents would arise if the CCDD were, for some reason (like the CCDD's overpaying the Developer for the assets-- the allegation in the class-action lawsuit), financially unable to continue to furnish the amenities at the promised level. In fact, thanks to the recovery in the class-action lawsuit, things now seem to be working out okay. Of course, an adverse outcome in the IRS investigation or other factors (e.g., a huge increase in the minimum wage) increasing costs to the CCDDs at a rate faster than the CPI cap on amenity-fee increases could change that.

The developer has total control over the CCDD's. The CCDD boards are elected by landowner elections, the only landowner in the Districts is the Developer. Get the picture ??? One could conclude that the CCDD boards would do exactly what the Developer wanted them to do. Most of the board members are employees of the Developer. I recall that at one time one of the board members of the VCCDD was the caretaker of the buffalo herd.

Advogado 07-06-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1083139)
The developer has total control over the CCDD's. The CCDD boards are elected by landowner elections, the only landowner in the Districts is the Developer. Get the picture ??? One could conclude that the CCDD boards would do exactly what the Developer wanted them to do. Most of the board members are employees of the Developer. I recall that at one time one of the board members of the VCCDD was the caretaker of the buffalo herd.

I understand that; you are correct; and I hope that I never said anything to the contrary. It is why the IRS has said that the Center Districts can no longer issue tax-exempt bonds.

Developer control over those governmental units does open avenues for potential abuse in dealings between the Developer and the Districts, and some of those dealings could negatively impact homeowners. This is one of the reasons why we need a genuine homeowners' association to represent our interests.

outlaw 07-06-2015 02:47 PM

Does the POA facilitate a one time payment for a 10 year membership?

PennBF 07-07-2015 04:56 PM

Verizon
 
How many have read the POA Bulletin and understand that the POA is currently trying to help over 330 residents that have complained about their Verizon performance. POA has been working with Seniors vs Crime on the problem and
they are providing great support with the issues. We are not only proud of our POA which steps in on problems which nobody else will help with but also the Seniors vs Crime who is always there for us and willing to step up to the challenges. Thanks to the POA and Seniors vs Crime for their interest and help.:BigApplause:

CFrance 07-07-2015 05:21 PM

I am a POA fan and have been a member for years. I had noticed way back when we first arrived four years ago, that they were a bit snarky toward the developer and VHA in their writings. But they have gotten rid of that attitude. I think they are concentrating on defending homeowners' rights.

Some have disparaged their leader, Elaine Dreidame, as being merely a PE teacher, but she actually has advanced degrees, including a Ph.D. in administration of higher education as well as physical education. She served as Division I Vice-President of the NCAA, a member of the NCAA Council and the NCAA Executive Committee, the NCAA Joint Policy Board and numerous other NCAA Committees. I think she is well qualified in administration. I continue to support the POA. .

I have nothing against the VHA, but I note that POA delivers a newsletter to everyone's driveway whether a member or not. We have not once received a VHA newsletter. Do you have to be a member to receive one?

Jdmiata 07-07-2015 08:44 PM

How anyone could call an organization that just nods in agreement with the developer a "homeowner " group amazes me . The VHA is a sham. Thank God for the POA.

outlaw 07-13-2015 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1083654)
I am a POA fan and have been a member for years. I had noticed way back when we first arrived four years ago, that they were a bit snarky toward the developer and VHA in their writings. But they have gotten rid of that attitude. I think they are concentrating on defending homeowners' rights.

Some have disparaged their leader, Elaine Dreidame, as being merely a PE teacher, but she actually has advanced degrees, including a Ph.D. in administration of higher education as well as physical education. She served as Division I Vice-President of the NCAA, a member of the NCAA Council and the NCAA Executive Committee, the NCAA Joint Policy Board and numerous other NCAA Committees. I think she is well qualified in administration. I continue to support the POA. .

I have nothing against the VHA, but I note that POA delivers a newsletter to everyone's driveway whether a member or not. We have not once received a VHA newsletter. Do you have to be a member to receive one?

I think the VHA newsletter is delivered with the Daily Sun.

bargee 07-13-2015 08:37 AM

The POA is not anti-developer it is Pro Resident

CFrance 07-13-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1086274)
I think the VHA newsletter is delivered with the Daily Sun.

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Originally Posted by bargee (Post 1086301)
The POA is not anti-developer it is Pro Resident

That explains why I don't get it. I don't read enough of the Daily Sun to justify all the paper waste, although I would subscribe if they would come up with an online edition.

I do agree POA is pro resident.

outlaw 07-13-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1086322)
That explains why I don't get it. I don't read enough of the Daily Sun to justify all the paper waste, although I would subscribe if they would come up with an online edition.

I do agree POA is pro resident.

The Daily Sun does have an online edition. The Villages Daily Sun

Warren Kiefer 07-13-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1086274)
I think the VHA newsletter is delivered with the Daily Sun.

I would think that no one would believe that the Daily Sun would agree to distribute the POA news letter. At one time when the Developer owned the Daily Sun, the delivery for the VHA newsletter was free. I would like to know if this is still true.

CFrance 07-13-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1086336)
The Daily Sun does have an online edition. The Villages Daily Sun

That is not the daily edition of the newspaper. For the most part, it is some local information. The news stories are not there. If you click on one of those headlines, you find only a teaser.

If you know otherwise, I would appreciate it if you could provide a link to subscribing to an online edition of the full newspaper. I have three other full newspaper online subscriptions and would love to add The Daily Sun to those.

CFrance 07-13-2015 01:30 PM

By the way, you can receive VHA's monthly newsletter free online by going to their web site and subscribing. But I think you will receive other notifications via email from them as well.

Advogado 07-14-2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1086468)
I would think that no one would believe that the Daily Sun would agree to distribute the POA news letter. At one time when the Developer owned the Daily Sun, the delivery for the VHA newsletter was free. I would like to know if this is still true.

If the Developer does not still own the Daily Sun, what is the name of the present owner and what is his/her/its relationship with the Developer? Florida Department of State records show that The Villages Daily Sun name is still owned by the Developer. Thus, the Developer has not severed all ties with our only newspaper. Meantime, the Daily Sun continues to deliver, and I presume print, the VHA bulletin.

graciegirl 07-14-2015 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=Advogado;1087017]If the Developer does not still own the Daily Sun, what is the name of the present owner and what is his/her/its relationship with the Developer? Florida Department of State records show that The Villages Daily Sun name is still owned by the Developer. Thus, the Developer has not severed all ties with our only newspaper. Meantime, the Daily Sun continues to deliver, and I presume print, the VHA bulletin.[/QUOTE


The Daily Sun was sold to publisher Phillip J. Markward a little over three years ago. The building and the equipment still belongs to the developer, his heirs and assigns. I wouldn't be surprised if the new owner was carefully vetted just like every thing else the Morses do.


The Daily Sun is popular with the majority of Villagers.


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