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dewilson58 10-09-2021 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2015110)
And your point is?
There is no point.
The OP "joined" last year and I think he/she jus woke up.

Some have said the same for the last 25 years.

Wait until he/she learns about dog poop.

:ho:

jmcica@aol.com 10-09-2021 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by terenceanne (Post 2015101)
We have County Roads the other places are private roads.....From what I understand the villages used to be private years ago but had to change due to the County. We cannot stop any Tom, Dick & Harry from coming in.......a tad more security would be nice but not sure how that could be implemented at this point.
As far the new building the concern is that the quality of the new building is reportedly way down - cheapo builder specials etc.....yet crazy high prices to boot - not sure what the outcome of it all will be.
Do you know these things for a fact?- cheaper buildng? Go take a ride out of the northern bubble and see all the ammenities and walking trails for the younger retirees. So very tired of the folks in the North thinking they have “better everything”. Go on- get out- take a walk, ride a bike and clear your mind.

Trynforpar 10-09-2021 07:49 AM
Yes the Villages is growing at a fever pace and that will create problems for owners if the developer doesn’t add sufficient amenities to meet the needs of a growing community. The real concern going forward is the number of apartment complexes that are being built around the villages. The town squares are more crowded than ever before and it’s not snow bird season yet. Navigating local roadways will become a nightmare once all the new apartment complexes are complete. These roadways were never designed to handle the increased traffic that have we will have to endure this coming winter. I’m hoping the powers at be have a plan to address these issues before they become unmanageable.

dewilson58 10-09-2021 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Trynforpar (Post 2015143)
Yes the Villages is growing at a fever pace .
Slower than ten years ago.

:shrug:

Driller703 10-09-2021 07:51 AM
Margaritaville
 
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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2015054)
I went to Margaritaville but spent the whole time looking for my lost shaker of salt. Then I blew out my flip flop , stepped on a pop top, cut my heel and had to cruise on back home to The Villages
Where there’s booze in the blender!

NoMo50 10-09-2021 07:52 AM
The development model here in The Villages works extremely well. That is, no doubt, why we continue to be a popular and sought after place to retire. Some have mentioned Stonecrest and Del Webb as having better security. But...have you been to Stonecrest? We played golf there a few weeks ago, and I will not go back. It was painfully obvious that place has run out of money. The lack of maintenance on their golf course was glaring...bordering on ridiculous. Stonecrest and Del Webb communities share one important trait: Once the development is completed, the developer exits and turns everything over to an HOA. Sometimes that works out, and sometimes it does not. Here, with the developer having a vested interest in the overall quality of life, things simply work out better.

Yes, there is no shortage of people here whose main "activity" seems to be complaining about anything and everything. Not me...I'm a happy guy. The Villages will continue to grow, until it doesn't. I doubt that most of us will be around to witness that end date, so just enjoy life and dig the ride while you're able.

prendymom 10-09-2021 08:03 AM
TV Crowds
 
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.

What about all the Apartments that are being built surrounding TV?

golfing eagles 10-09-2021 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 2015114)
In 2019 one of their employees at Sarasota told me a Villages official told them their plan was to have 300,000 people - they just got started on round 2.
Was that statement verified by your wife's hairdresser's cousin's babysitter????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter 10-09-2021 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by prendymom (Post 2015157)
What about all the Apartments that are being built surrounding TV?
What about them?
People that serve you need a place to live………..

KYtoTV2021 10-09-2021 08:14 AM
Selling more houses vs building an appropriate infrastructure
 
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.
As a new resident, I consistently hear from people who have lived in TV for 10 years or so that until about 2010, they could go to a restaurant or schedule a tee time without hassle. TV management is so intent on selling more and more houses (ie revenue) that investing in infrastructure such as exec golf courses (ie expenses) is not profitable.

The question to me is not the size of TV, but whether the owners are willing to build the exec golf course, town squares, etc to accommodate this growth. Apparently it is "profit, profit profit" as the motivator. Just look at the tiny town square in the southern district or the lack of exec golf courses constructed in the past 10 years and the answer is obvious

golfing eagles 10-09-2021 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2015148)
The development model here in The Villages works extremely well. That is, no doubt, why we continue to be a popular and sought after place to retire. Some have mentioned Stonecrest and Del Webb as having better security. But...have you been to Stonecrest? We played golf there a few weeks ago, and I will not go back. It was painfully obvious that place has run out of money. The lack of maintenance on their golf course was glaring...bordering on ridiculous. Stonecrest and Del Webb communities share one important trait: Once the development is completed, the developer exits and turns everything over to an HOA. Sometimes that works out, and sometimes it does not. Here, with the developer having a vested interest in the overall quality of life, things simply work out better.

Yes, there is no shortage of people here whose main "activity" seems to be complaining about anything and everything. Not me...I'm a happy guy. The Villages will continue to grow, until it doesn't. I doubt that most of us will be around to witness that end date, so just enjoy life and dig the ride while you're able.
Which reminds me of the old joke----What do you call a group of 10 "Karens"?-----A HOA! Just imagine the "clipboard" ladies on every block all the time

Laker14 10-09-2021 08:22 AM
I doubt that the quality of life in Chatham changes much as the Villages grows towards Orlando. I live in Poinciana, and I doubt that the quality of life here will change much as the Villages grows towards Orlando. The ratio of people to executive golf courses may change, and not for the better, but I feel that is offset by the addition of other usable amenities, such as more biking, and hiking trails. In fact, before we started wintering in TV, and were checking the place out, 5 years ago or so, I was disappointed at the lack of good nature trails to hike. That has changed for the better with the development of the new areas.

biker1 10-09-2021 08:24 AM
The current plans call for another 60K houses which would bring the total to about 120K houses or about 240K people. So, 300K people is certainly not out of reach and I would not be surprised if they continue to acquire land. It will take about 15-20 years to build the additional 60K homes. I think they will build about 4000 homes this year, which is above the average of about 2400 homes per year for the last 10 years or so.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 2015114)
In 2019 one of their employees at Sarasota told me a Villages official told them their plan was to have 300,000 people - they just got started on round 2.

RPDaly 10-09-2021 08:27 AM
Maybe it is time to have Square parking lots gated and only allow in badged residents.

Ritagoyer 10-09-2021 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Trynforpar (Post 2015143)
Yes the Villages is growing at a fever pace and that will create problems for owners if the developer doesn’t add sufficient amenities to meet the needs of a growing community. The real concern going forward is the number of apartment complexes that are being built around the villages. The town squares are more crowded than ever before and it’s not snow bird season yet. Navigating local roadways will become a nightmare once all the new apartment complexes are complete. These roadways were never designed to handle the increased traffic that have we will have to endure this coming winter. I’m hoping the powers at be have a plan to address these issues before they become unmanageable.
One problem I see with all the expansions is that people south of 44 are having problems with services like a reliable company mowing your yard, landscaping, and the list goes on. There are not enough people that want to work or even do the work. The lead time to get even material in or a qualified contractor is difficult.

mikeritz53 10-09-2021 08:35 AM
No offense inteaded, but would you have bought here if you had to pay $300-$600/mth for an HOA Fee like the Gated Communities pay??? Everything has a cost.

biker1 10-09-2021 08:35 AM
You could have chosen a better topic for your first post.

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Originally Posted by RPDaly (Post 2015173)
Maybe it is time to have Square parking lots gated and only allow in badged residents.

golfing eagles 10-09-2021 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RPDaly (Post 2015173)
Maybe it is time to have Square parking lots gated and only allow in badged residents.
Perhaps. But for that to happen:

1) the land the parking lots are on must be owned by TV or a CDD
2) they would have to modify the lots to have a limited number of entrances/exits which might create traffic back up from the gates
3) They would have to be gates WITH NO RED BUTTON
4) You do realize that the businesses on the squares derive revenue from non-Villagers, and the entertainment is subsidized by those very same businesses, so that solution might obviate the problem, but not the way you think.

Dond1959 10-09-2021 08:43 AM
Okay, time to talk about facts vs fiction. 4th square is in planning stage called Eastport. New hospital and medical campus planned with UF in Lake County near 470 and turnpike. Second bridge over turnpike in process. New 18 hole championship golf course nearing opening and 3 additional 18 hole championship courses planned between turnpike and Marsh Bend and 470 on the south. Not to mention pitch and putts and putt and play courses. Neighborhood and regional recreation centers continue to be developed. Executive courses are not announced yet that I know of at this time. However, the developer know exactly how much each executive course is utilized and when additional courses are needed.

Once all of this development occurs there will be no reason for residents south of 44 to go north of 44 for any amenities. Because of the way the Villages are laid out and the amenities close to residents traffic should remain mostly local and use of golf carts further reduces any traffic issues. I really don’t see any traffic back ups here unless a wreck has occurred. And waiting one or two minutes for a light or to get through a roundabout, is that really a traffic issue?

Growth will occur here as you are living in a pro growth state, and you have choices. You can either embrace it and enjoy all the new amenities and offerings or just stay and be grumpy about the growth. I would rather enjoy what time I have left and be happy.

ThirdOfFive 10-09-2021 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.
Too big? Maybe too crowded, but that's not the same as too big.

billethkid 10-09-2021 08:49 AM
My ONLY complaint about TV is those who continually complain about TV.

Built our home here when TV was around 30,000......now that it is 130,000 I can honestly say our lifestyle has not been negatively affected.

On the positive side as the population reached critical mass more outside businesses have been attracted to TV and surrounding area.

In 17 years have never not been able to play golf when we wanted to play.....flexibility of courses and times is all it takes.

Those who thought they were buying into a gated community had/have no idea what a real gated community is and how it operates.

If we were coming in for the first time today we would make the same decision to live here.....it is ONLY better than it was 17 years ago......in our very humble opinion.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-09-2021 08:51 AM
And there you go . The gates do
 
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2015086)
don't forget.....there are cameras at all gates
stop some people who may be up to no good , over the years people have been caught here doing the wrong thing because there pictures came up on cameras . I’ve had a home here since 2002 I’ve gone other places stayed for awhile and then would come back , I followed the growth with homes from Springdale to Fenny I love the villages and there plans for the future. I go out most nights for dinner around 7pm maybe when it’s crowded you have to wait a little, but so what , have a drink at the bar. As far as crime goes it seems mostly alcohol DUI or domestic and crimes of opportunity ie garage doors open . I have friends at Dell Webb big deal they have a gate they also have big nothing to do . I will tell you if the villages was still that sleepy little town it was when I first came here , I certainly wouldn’t still be here at 82 it would be soooooo BORING

tophcfa 10-09-2021 08:53 AM
I don’t find any problems with the size or growth rate of the Villages, but I am disappointed that the growth of new sports pools, golf (both Executive and Championship), and other recreational activities has not kept up with historic numbers per home. There has clearly been a change in the type/mix of recreational activities in the newer areas, but we live north of 466 so it has little to no effect on us. As other posters have mentioned, and unfortunately I have personally experienced, the health care system in and around the Villages is seriously lacking (far worse than the rest of the country). Also, it sucks for those living in the northern sections of the Villages that certain things we once enjoyed are being relocated to areas closer to where new homes are being sold, such as the wonderful weekly farmers market we used to enjoy in Spanish Springs. And don’t get me going on riding the Villages Airport Van ( which we will never do again) when you live in the northern sections of the Villages, being the first to be picked up and last to be dropped off is now close to a half day excursion.

OhioBuckeye 10-09-2021 09:05 AM
Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.
This is just me but the ones that I knew that moved from TV said this was the biggest reason why they moved. People now already say they can’t get a decent Tee Time or do anything without being so crowded. If you think 200,000 would be to many people, try where we moved to Dallas/Ft.Worth there’s millions that’s just in these 2 cities not counting the cities surrounding them, Justin, Argyle, Bartonville, Flower Mound, ect. ect. This adds another million or 2 & if this isn’t big enough try Houston it’s 8 to 10 million. Yea, TV is getting big but If I had a choice I would like to be back in TV! So if TV is getting to big for anyone, nobody put a ball & chain around your leg. Believe me there’s worse places to live. I
like Dallas/Ft. Worth area because people basically are nice & you don’t have to worry about someone robbing or beating you up because just about everyone here carry’s some kind of protection. People here I really think they would jump in & help you. Not real sure about TV.

golfing eagles 10-09-2021 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2015086)
don't forget.....there are cameras at all gates
And Community Watch drives by EVERY house 3x/day at random, very hard for a criminal to "case" a house.

MrFlorida 10-09-2021 09:18 AM
We're here till we croak...no place like this.

kkingston57 10-09-2021 09:22 AM
Said this 3 years ago when we bought that TV was TOO Big. Biggest problem that I fear is the lack of people who are still working who will be able to provide services to us. Appears we know have a shortage of people in the service industry now(after un employment COVID subsidies have ended) and it it not gong to get better as most of the new development is for >55 communities.

Have lived in Florida all of my life and TV is one of the hardest areas to get medical attention.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-09-2021 09:39 AM
The lack of people to perform services needed by the villlages is happening everywhere , Cape Cod , ski areas , Branson and others ,the workers are being priced out of the area and it’s not just low level workers but cops, teachers, EMT’S, we are somewhat lucky that many apartments are being built in the surrounding areas , good clean places to live, work and raise families which will keep workers here , those who complain about the growth of apartments are mostly same ones who probably complain about slow service

cbmerl 10-09-2021 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.
Wow! Somebody got up on the negative side of the bed. I personally love it in The Villages and don't think I would ever consider moving away. But, that's just me and 140,000 other people!!! Any one of us is free to move and relocate. Why don't you look into that?

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-09-2021 09:43 AM
That’s why there
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2015195)
I don’t find any problems with the size or growth rate of the Villages, but I am disappointed that the growth of new sports pools, golf (both Executive and Championship), and other recreational activities has not kept up with historic numbers per home. There has clearly been a change in the type/mix of recreational activities in the newer areas, but we live north of 466 so it has little to no effect on us. As other posters have mentioned, and unfortunately I have personally experienced, the health care system in and around the Villages is seriously lacking (far worse than the rest of the country). Also, it sucks for those living in the northern sections of the Villages that certain things we once enjoyed are being relocated to areas closer to where new homes are being sold, such as the wonderful weekly farmers market we used to enjoy in Spanish Springs. And don’t get me going on riding the Villages Airport Van ( which we will never do again) when you live in the northern sections of the Villages, being the first to be picked up and last to be dropped off is now close to a half day excursion.
are car services

waynehal55 10-09-2021 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2015055)
I don't see much difference between The Villages and Del Webb and Stonecrest. At Del Webb and Stonecrest, you just tell the gate guy that you are going to the restaurant, and you drive right in. I think Top of the World is the same way. Maybe they have different rules when the restaurants are closed, but I don't think the security is really better than The Villages.
You can't be serious!!! I live in Del Webb and this community of 3250 homes is
surrounded by fencing and 2 gated guard shacks. These PRIVATE roads are patrolled 24/7 by residents in marked trucks. Nothing in life is guaranteed, but after living here for almost 2 decades we feel very safe. There are no buttons to press to gain entry.

dewilson58 10-09-2021 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by waynehal55 (Post 2015238)
I live in Del Webb and
Obviously ToTV is not a gate website.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Koapaka 10-09-2021 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2015148)
The development model here in The Villages works extremely well. That is, no doubt, why we continue to be a popular and sought after place to retire. Some have mentioned Stonecrest and Del Webb as having better security. But...have you been to Stonecrest? We played golf there a few weeks ago, and I will not go back. It was painfully obvious that place has run out of money. The lack of maintenance on their golf course was glaring...bordering on ridiculous. Stonecrest and Del Webb communities share one important trait: Once the development is completed, the developer exits and turns everything over to an HOA. Sometimes that works out, and sometimes it does not. Here, with the developer having a vested interest in the overall quality of life, things simply work out better.

Yes, there is no shortage of people here whose main "activity" seems to be complaining about anything and everything. Not me...I'm a happy guy. The Villages will continue to grow, until it doesn't. I doubt that most of us will be around to witness that end date, so just enjoy life and dig the ride while you're able.
Good points. As well, in these gated communities, the HOA is responsible for all road repair and maintenance needs.

I understand some of the frustration with Brownwood crowds, but as they build out more and more facilities to go with the housing still being built to the south, you will find most folks now driving the bridges to come north will probably find their favorite stomping grounds a little closer to home. There will come a time when people farthest south talk about how crazy it would be to take the golf cart all the way up to Brownwood the way people in Brownwood area talk about driving all the way up to Spanish Springs now....

While Brownwood will someday be the center (or close to it), at our ages a lot of us won't be around to see it. Main reason we did not buy new...why wait for infrastructure if already available.


Crime? I subscribe to the "spot crime" reports....getting an email once a week which lists a animal noise disturbance call and an accident with injuries sure beats the "gated community" we moved here from 5 mile radius stats....

Yep, no where else we would rather live. Not perfect, but dang close.

ML Smith 10-09-2021 09:56 AM
Agree totally

Garywt 10-09-2021 10:03 AM
Bigger equals more golf cart paths to drive on so I am good.

justjim 10-09-2021 10:05 AM
We are in our 15th year owning property in The Villages. Recently I was told that I was a Sunbird. (Apparently a person who owns in TV and owns or rents up north for three months during the really hot and humid days of summer in Florida). We like being a Sunbird but to each his own. My only fault with The Villages is the Medical as I have posed on other Threads on TOTV. The medical community just hasn’t been able to keep up with the overwhelming fast growth of The Villages and Central Florida. They (medical community) are doing their best but continues to fall further and further behind. Enough said….we love The Villages.

retiredguy123 10-09-2021 10:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waynehal55 (Post 2015238)
You can't be serious!!! I live in Del Webb and this community of 3250 homes is
surrounded by fencing and 2 gated guard shacks. These PRIVATE roads are patrolled 24/7 by residents in marked trucks. Nothing in life is guaranteed, but after living here for almost 2 decades we feel very safe. There are no buttons to press to gain entry.
I was responding to the OP's comment that you need authorization to enter the community. The restaurant is open to the public, and you can drive to it without presenting any identification or authorization. I have done it many times. The Villages has Community Watch vehicles that patrol the housing areas.

Koapaka 10-09-2021 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ritagoyer (Post 2015180)
One problem I see with all the expansions is that people south of 44 are having problems with services like a reliable company mowing your yard, landscaping, and the list goes on. There are not enough people that want to work or even do the work. The lead time to get even material in or a qualified contractor is difficult.
Newsflash...that problem exists above 44 as well.

tvbound 10-09-2021 10:17 AM
"Too big" is simply an individual opinion, that is moot until house purchases start to decline and the consensus by those not buying is because - "it's too big." So far, we haven't seen any indication of that happening anytime soon. The growth since our first rental over 6 years ago, until now, has been quite eye-opening. It is however, a bit annoying from both those who have the attitude of "if you don't like it, move" and those who imply "I got mine, you should go somewhere else." I'm also guessing that the slogan for TV will not be changed anytime soon to - "The Villages, we used to be really small and friendly." LOL

Villages Kahuna 10-09-2021 10:19 AM
From someone who’s been here for over 16 years, my answer is YES, WAY TOO BIG!

We moved here from north suburban Chicago. We loved the ‘small town feel’ of The Villages back then. Only about 35,000 people, never over-crowded, all the amenities accessible with no more than a 20- minute golf cart ride.

Now the population is near 140,000 and still growing quickly. The relationship of residents with the Developer is non-existent. The length of The Villages from CR 42 on the north to where new homes are under construction is already about 5-6 miles longer than the City of Chicago (from the Evanston border to the south suburb of Dixmoor).

That’s too big for me, way too big. I moved from a large metropolitan area. Now the crowds, traffic, etc. have followed us here.


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