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Bogie Shooter 10-09-2021 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2015190)
My ONLY complaint about TV is those who continually complain about TV.

Built our home here when TV was around 30,000......now that it is 130,000 I can honestly say our lifestyle has not been negatively affected.

On the positive side as the population reached critical mass more outside businesses have been attracted to TV and surrounding area.

In 17 years have never not been able to play golf when we wanted to play.....flexibility of courses and times is all it takes.

Those who thought they were buying into a gated community had/have no idea what a real gated community is and how it operates.

If we were coming in for the first time today we would make the same decision to live here.....it is ONLY better than it was 17 years ago......in our very humble opinion.
Once again the voice of reason.
I agree 100% with this post, in my 19 years.

Vermilion Villager 10-09-2021 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dantes (Post 2015102)
You are correct 20 plus years in The Sheriffs Department, Corrections, K-9- ICE if you only knew what is really walking around out there you would not be taking late night walks and it’s getting worse by the day just watch the news
Seriously?!?!? Do you really think it is not safe to walk around The Villages at night???? When was the last time you saw or read a Villages resident was assaulted, raped or robbed inside of the Villages proper???? :ohdear:

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-09-2021 11:03 AM
What news ? Where is this news , I have not seen one report of someone being mugged while walking around at night on any path . Maybe it’s secret news only known to those who stir the pot ????

Tom M 10-09-2021 11:19 AM
Growth means more options. More clubs, more courses, more dining, more entertainment, more shopping, more of everything. But if you don't want to venture out, stay in your community and nothing has changed.

golfing eagles 10-09-2021 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by waynehal55 (Post 2015238)
You can't be serious!!! I live in Del Webb and this community of 3250 homes is
surrounded by fencing and 2 gated guard shacks. These PRIVATE roads are patrolled 24/7 by residents in marked trucks. Nothing in life is guaranteed, but after living here for almost 2 decades we feel very safe. There are no buttons to press to gain entry.
You should feel safe, since there is nothing to do there other than sit at home and watch TV

joelfmi 10-09-2021 11:39 AM
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. Thank you for being honest about what is happening.
 
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.
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I would have to crazy to live in a community that was not gated. Their are so many others that are that are gated AND PRIVATE JUST AS GOOD.

golfing eagles 10-09-2021 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2015294)
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I would have to crazy to live in a community that was not gated. Their are so many others that are that are gated AND PRIVATE JUST AS GOOD.
Just as good????? Name them.

Taltarzac725 10-09-2021 11:42 AM
They need to work on getting the three movie theaters open and operating as usual by hiring more workers. They seemed very short staffed at the Old Mill Playhouse.

Tom M 10-09-2021 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2015294)
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I would have to crazy to live in a community that was not gated. Their are so many others that are that are gated AND PRIVATE JUST AS GOOD.

Why are you even on this site? Why spend your time watching people comment about their community that's "not any better" than yours?

Kelevision 10-09-2021 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2015297)
They need to work on getting the three movie theaters open and operating as usual by hiring more workers. They seemed very short staffed at the Old Mill Playhouse.
There are no workers. That’s the problem.

Djean1981 10-09-2021 11:57 AM
If desired, one can just stay in their particular village area. If in the North, there is no need to go South and vice versa. Personally, I enjoy going outside the bubble and welcome any law abiding individuals into our community. My prior residence didn't have any gate or surveillance cameras at the entrance of the neighborhood. I do not feel unsafe.

npwalters 10-09-2021 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 2015066)
You are free to move to any other community as you please.
I wondered how long it would take that to come out. Next will be a 75 runs north and south; choose one. And maybe a "boom" thrown in for good measure.

Sheesh!

Ptmckiou 10-09-2021 12:13 PM
Photo license plate
 
You are aware that when you push that red button at the gate, the camera takes a picture of your license plate as a record of who entered the subdivision.

I think The Villages is handling their size expansions wonderfully.

Bogie Shooter 10-09-2021 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 2015305)
I wondered how long it would take that to come out. Next will be a 75 runs north and south; choose one. And maybe a "boom" thrown in for good measure.

Sheesh!
You gave another option.:1rotfl:

Velvet 10-09-2021 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2015128)
We tend to think honest. The gates, do we think a criminal would not simply go around them. Your front door. Do you think someone braking in is concerned about damaging your new paint job that you invested so much time picking out the perfect color?

Increased security? I only have questions no answers. Do we want random stops to inspect your papers?
Works well enough at the pools I have my ID with me all the time. ;) And those who would like to “bend” the rules, just shouldn’t be here in the first place.

NoMoSno 10-09-2021 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ptmckiou (Post 2015308)
You are aware that when you push that red button at the gate, the camera takes a picture of your license plate as a record of who entered the subdivision.

I think The Villages is handling their size expansions wonderfully.
The red button does not activate the camera.
They are activated by motion sensors at both the residence and visitor side gates.

JoMar 10-09-2021 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by daca55 (Post 2015100)
Totally agree with you especially your point about the hospital. I wish in one of these new villages in the south they would build another square for those people down there. That would help with some of the crowds in the other squares. Not sure with all they have added in the south there is still not a new square.
You know about Citrus Grove right? Will most likely draw folks from above 44

Kelevision 10-09-2021 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.
I don’t see this as being compared to anything there is out there currently. Top of the World has what, 3 golf courses? This is large for a reason. It’s meant to be a town, it IS a town, with 3 zip codes. It’s Florida’s friendliest home town! Everyone has their area that is close and can travel to the other parts when they want to. I think the developers are smart as they see the newer retirees wanting something different than people wanted 20/30 years ago and they’re adapting to it. Nothing changes for the folks up north. They have the same places they’ve always had and shouldn’t see much additional busy-ness. I for one live south of 44 and never ever have been north of 466. Going to Fresh Market or my fav Bone Fish is too far because i have other things closer. It’s brilliant to be honest. People moving in now, 55-ish are really into outdoor things. All the bike and walking trails and the preserves are fantastic. IMO, Fenney ( not where I live) is so lovely. So, no I don’t think it’s too big. I think it’s perfect. And looking forward to it getting bigger with the new hospital and town square and Sawgrass grove. And No, I’m not at all scared living here.

HORNET 10-09-2021 02:51 PM
But look at the money that Mark is making

JoMar 10-09-2021 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes (Post 2015102)
You are correct 20 plus years in The Sheriffs Department, Corrections, K-9- ICE if you only knew what is really walking around out there you would not be taking late night walks and it’s getting worse by the day just watch the news
What news do you watch that covers The Villages?

JMintzer 10-09-2021 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2015355)
You know about Citrus Grove right? Will most likely draw folks from above 44
Citrus Grove is a Village... Why will it draw folks from above 44?

Madelaine Amee 10-09-2021 03:30 PM
Is it too big, yes of course it is too big, but if the Morse family do not build on Central Florida land who will. You might end up with a fly by nighter who starts and runs out of money, and walks away.

However, I see a larger problem than being too big .... where are you going to get medical staff, nurses, hospital techs and on and on to service this large population.

Bogie Shooter 10-09-2021 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2015359)
But look at the money that Mark is making
So, what?

Bogie Shooter 10-09-2021 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2015355)
You know about Citrus Grove right? Will most likely draw folks from above 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2015365)
Citrus Grove is a Village... Why will it draw folks from above 44?
Middleton
The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community

Madelaine Amee 10-09-2021 03:50 PM
Very interesting Bogie, thanks. That will change the face of TV forever. I am sure it will be a great safe place to raise children. Just today I mentioned to my other half that there are more and more underaged youngsters appearing in TV.

Stu from NYC 10-09-2021 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2015166)
Which reminds me of the old joke----What do you call a group of 10 "Karens"?-----A HOA! Just imagine the "clipboard" ladies on every block all the time
Rumor has it Del Webb has decided to start a business hiring clipboard ladies to drive around the villages and do their thing.

They want to reduce competition.:bigbow:

Maryland04 10-09-2021 03:53 PM
Solution "Move"

Boomer 10-09-2021 04:04 PM
Another precinct heard from. . .
 
There was an article titled "Why Are Young People Moving to The Villages?" in yesterday's Tampa Bay Times. The site also offers it as a "Listen."

I am not able to link it right now, but maybe someone else will find it and do that.

Boomer

jimjamuser 10-09-2021 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2014993)
I do love living here in The Villages, but I want all Villagers to stop and think for a minute. The Villages currently has a population of approximately 140,000 people. Considering the amount of land The Villages still owns that has not been developed, by the time the future villages are developed our population will be well over 200,000 people. Remember, The Villages is not a gated community but a community with gates. On any given day at any time of the day anyone from outside the villages has full access to every road every street every business and all the town squares. If for some reason a person or persons with Less than honorable intentions approach a gate at 3 AM in one of our villages and you do not live in the villages you simply press the red button the gate goes up and you enter. The 20% of the villages that have gate attendants are not allowed to ask you what your businesses is and are not allowed to stop you from entering any village at any time of the day or night. Also keep in mind that many of our seniors who live here in the villages are allowing their grand children and children to live with them. Everything I mentioned above including a community future population with over 200,000 people is bound to see a significant increase in crime and traffic. Go to On Top of the World, Dell Web, Margaritaville, or Stone Crest. Try entering the property without authorization and see what happens. You will not only be stopped but you will be asked to leave. I’m just saying.
I agree with EVERY PROBLEM outlined here. I would humbly suggest that the Community Patrol have more TEETH in their role as "peacekeepers" - and have night vision cameras mounted on their roofs and images sent back to A.I. recognition screens at a central headquarters that could dispatch serious law enforcing squads when an investigation is WARRANTED. Also, drone cameras would help. There IS something about public roads that prevent TV Land from REALLY having ANY gate security. Why waste money on human gate guards that just smile and wave. They could easily be replaced with an information machine set up at major gate entrances. And PLEASE change the Community watch to something that works - crime IS RAMPANT in TV Town! And with blue-collar jobs leaving the US, the blue-collar workers will be forced into becoming criminals. AND TV Land is SURROUNDED surrounded by BELLIGERANTS! Good luck!

jimjamuser 10-09-2021 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2014995)
Yes, it has gotten to "big", to too big IMHO.
IMHO.....the WHOLE world is overstuffed with too many people and getting worse, not better! And I am basically a positive kind of guy!

JMintzer 10-09-2021 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2015376)
Why are you quoting me on your post? I never mentioned Middleton, nor is it in the Village of Citrus Grove...

JMintzer 10-09-2021 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2015395)
crime IS RAMPANT in TV Town! And with blue-collar jobs leaving the US, the blue-collar workers will be forced into becoming criminals. AND TV Land is SURROUNDED surrounded by BELLIGERANTS! Good luck!
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 10-09-2021 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2015395)
I agree with EVERY PROBLEM outlined here. I would humbly suggest that the Community Patrol have more TEETH in their role as "peacekeepers" - and have night vision cameras mounted on their roofs and images sent back to A.I. recognition screens at a central headquarters that could dispatch serious law enforcing squads when an investigation is WARRANTED. Also, drone cameras would help. There IS something about public roads that prevent TV Land from REALLY having ANY gate security. Why waste money on human gate guards that just smile and wave. They could easily be replaced with an information machine set up at major gate entrances. And PLEASE change the Community watch to something that works - crime IS RAMPANT in TV Town! And with blue-collar jobs leaving the US, the blue-collar workers will be forced into becoming criminals. AND TV Land is SURROUNDED surrounded by BELLIGERANTS! Good luck!
Jawohl, Mein Fuhrer. (sarcasm, Sheldon, sarcasm):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

jimjamuser 10-09-2021 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2015002)
I would really hate for someone with “less than honorable” intentions to try to make their way into our home.

Just sayin….
Possibly some are looking forward to being militant. The question really IS, " Can one or 2 old people with guns WIN over 8 or 9 young people WITH GUNS. .................Or EVEN hordes of drug-crazed robbers and rapists?????????
........OR even an invasion of well-trained FOREIGN TROOPS like in "Red Dawn"??????
........The FUTURE will reveal what the FUTURE will reveal. Good luck!

PugMom 10-09-2021 04:27 PM
i, for one, feel VERY safe here; knowing 80% of the villagers on my road are armed good guys :boxing2:

JMintzer 10-09-2021 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2015403)
Possibly some are looking forward to being militant. The question really IS, " Can one or 2 old people with guns WIN over 8 or 9 young people WITH GUNS. .................Or EVEN hordes of drug-crazed robbers and rapists?????????
........OR even an invasion of well-trained FOREIGN TROOPS like in "Red Dawn"??????
........The FUTURE will reveal what the FUTURE will reveal. Good luck!
I'll have whatever you're having...

Kelevision 10-09-2021 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2015365)
Citrus Grove is a Village... Why will it draw folks from above 44?
Pretty sure they meant sawgrass grove?

Kenswing 10-09-2021 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2015395)
I agree with EVERY PROBLEM outlined here. I would humbly suggest that the Community Patrol have more TEETH in their role as "peacekeepers" - and have night vision cameras mounted on their roofs and images sent back to A.I. recognition screens at a central headquarters that could dispatch serious law enforcing squads when an investigation is WARRANTED. Also, drone cameras would help. There IS something about public roads that prevent TV Land from REALLY having ANY gate security. Why waste money on human gate guards that just smile and wave. They could easily be replaced with an information machine set up at major gate entrances. And PLEASE change the Community watch to something that works - crime IS RAMPANT in TV Town! And with blue-collar jobs leaving the US, the blue-collar workers will be forced into becoming criminals. AND TV Land is SURROUNDED surrounded by BELLIGERANTS! Good luck!
I think the cheese has finally slid off your cracker. :1rotfl:

Kenswing 10-09-2021 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2015403)
Possibly some are looking forward to being militant. The question really IS, " Can one or 2 old people with guns WIN over 8 or 9 young people WITH GUNS. .................Or EVEN hordes of drug-crazed robbers and rapists?????????
........OR even an invasion of well-trained FOREIGN TROOPS like in "Red Dawn"??????
........The FUTURE will reveal what the FUTURE will reveal. Good luck!
Do these kind of thoughts actually run through your mind or are you just trolling? I seriously hope you're just trolling.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-09-2021 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2015404)
i, for one, feel VERY safe here; knowing 80% of the villagers on my road are armed good guys :boxing2:
They can't even aim their golf carts straight. I don't trust a single one of them to aim a gun properly. Not one.


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