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Polar Bear 07-07-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1421686)
I was at Gordon's Garage (The Villages Golf Carts) at Lake Sumter Landing today to have a repair done to my cart. When I was paying, I asked the cashier if their shop increases the speed of carts to over the 20 mph limit. She told me that they will do the speed change - but they tell the customer it is illegal and, if in an accident or caught by the police, will result in a fine. I then verified her story with a couple of salesmen...

Hey ST...you never told us whether or not you had it done!?! :D :beer3: :beer3: :laugh:

twoplanekid 07-07-2017 04:04 PM

From the Florida statute 210.01 Definitions, general

(22) “Golf cart” means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.

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Sandtrap328 07-07-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1421729)
Hey ST...you never told us whether or not you had it done!?! :D :beer3: :beer3: :laugh:

You will find out Tuesday. Go Polar Bears!

manaboutown 07-07-2017 04:09 PM

Pretty simple judging by this video. How to Adjust Governor on Yamaha G29 Drive Gas Golf Cart | Speed Increase - YouTube

For an electric cart: How To Make Your Golf Cart Faster | GolfCarCatalog.com Blog

I kinda wonder if a licensed shop doing this might be liable for an ensuing accident due to speeding over 20 mph.

Higher gearing might be the safest way to go as far as engine life is concerned.

dbussone 07-07-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1421723)
Cars have speedometers, golf carts do not--if I bought a new golf cart and or I had one recently serviced ,I would bring a copy of the sales/service order& drag the company into court as a co-defendant--I know some lawyer would quote chapter & verse--but if enough people did this the carts would be certified @ less than 20 mph when sold not after you get a violation--really these shops should have their certification pulled, as to being a certified shop for remediation



My golf cart came with a speedometer, new. I also make sure that it cannot exceed 20 MPH by instructing the service folks to make sure the governor is properly set.


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ColdNoMore 07-07-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1421736)
From the Florida statute 210.01 Definitions, general

(22) “Golf cart” means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.


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"Not capable" is the key phrase here.

The Villages Golf Carts is definitely breaking the law, by being the entity that allows an otherwise 'golf cart'... to be capable of speeds in excess of 20 mph.

While we will never see the story in the Sun, there WILL be a case soon whereby someone gets popped by the police for going too fast and then sues the VGC or tells the cops that it was the dealer that set it up that way...or BOTH.

In other words, those who want Gordon's Garage to do it for them (although it's very easy to do yourself and then you become the one culpable for the modification) better hurry...before they quit doing it due to liability issues.

manaboutown 07-07-2017 04:29 PM

Might be wise to check one's top cart speed out on a Garmin, smartphone GPS or such. I suspected my new SUV's speedometer was reading about 3 mph too fast at highway speeds so I hooked my Garmin up when I drove it and I was right. When I go in for its first service I will get it adjusted.

wisbad1 07-07-2017 04:30 PM

the way it sounds is for $40.one time fee you can get a tag to drive 25mph whenever,is that right?

Sandtrap328 07-07-2017 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 1421752)
the way it sounds is for $40.one time fee you can get a tag to drive 25mph whenever,is that right?

No, you read it wrong.

The law was telling how to take your "low speed vehicle" from being capable of going 25 mph DOWN to a golf cart capable of going only 20 mph.

The newly redesigned CART would no longer need insurance, license plates, or safety equipment - and could go no faster than 20 mph.

ColdNoMore 07-07-2017 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1421750)
Might be wise to check one's top cart speed out on a Garmin, smartphone GPS or such. I suspected my new SUV's speedometer was reading about 3 mph too fast at highway speeds so I hooked my Garmin up when I drove it and I was right. When I go in for its first service I will get it adjusted.

Good luck getting it changed/adjusted, as they may tell you that it is within the 'acceptable range.'

Speedometer Scandal! - Feature - Car and Driver
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So we sought out the rule book to find out just how much accuracy is mandated. In the U.S., manufacturers voluntarily follow the standard set by the Society of Automotive Engineers, J1226, which is pretty lax. To begin with, manufacturers are afforded the latitude to aim for within plus-or-minus two percent of absolute accuracy or to introduce bias to read high on a sliding scale of from minus-one to plus-three percent at low speeds to zero to plus-four percent above 55 mph.

And those percentages are not of actual speed but rather a percentage of the total speed range indicated on the dial.

So the four-percent allowable range on an 85-mph speedometer is 3.4 mph, and the acceptable range on a 150-mph speedometer is 6.0 mph.


There have even been allegations over the years that some manufacturers have set their speedo's higher than you're actually going (therefore showing more miles traveled than actual)...simply to reach the warranty limit sooner. :shrug:

Villageswimmer 07-07-2017 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1421758)
No, you read it wrong.

The law was telling how to take your "low speed vehicle" from being capable of going 25 mph DOWN to a golf cart capable of going only 20 mph.

The newly redesigned CART would no longer need insurance, license plates, or safety equipment - and could go no faster than 20 mph.


I'd never drive it at any speed without insurance.

dbussone 07-07-2017 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1421758)
No, you read it wrong.



The law was telling how to take your "low speed vehicle" from being capable of going 25 mph DOWN to a golf cart capable of going only 20 mph.



The newly redesigned CART would no longer need insurance, license plates, or safety equipment - and could go no faster than 20 mph.



While it is not required, I have insurance on my golf cart. I think it is a worthwhile thing to do.


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Chatbrat 07-07-2017 05:14 PM

Insurance is to protect YOU, if you've got nothing to lose--you don't need insurance--if you've got real assets , you need insurance- and I'm not talking the minimum that Fl requires for car insurance a $5 million dollar umbrella should be considered as a minimum over your car insurance

dbussone 07-07-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1421767)
Insurance is to protect YOU, if you've got nothing to lose--you don't need insurance--if you've got real assets , you need insurance- and I'm not talking the minimum that Fl requires for car insurance a $5 million dollar umbrella should be considered as a minimum over your car insurance



It also protects me from those without insurance who think they are Dale Jr. The first month I had my cart I was stopped at an exec course waiting to move to the cart parking area. There were carts stopped and lined up behind me. Someone who thought he was Tiger Woods came toward me counting the $2 he had just won. Despite my hitting the horn, he drove right into my front end head on. He didn't know what insurance meant, much less have any.

I know what insurance is for.

biker1 07-07-2017 05:52 PM

Wrong. Many golf carts have speedometers. Mine does.

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1421723)
Cars have speedometers, golf carts do not--if I bought a new golf cart and or I had one recently serviced ,I would bring a copy of the sales/service order& drag the company into court as a co-defendant--I know some lawyer would quote chapter & verse--but if enough people did this the carts would be certified @ less than 20 mph when sold not after you get a violation--really these shops should have their certification pulled, as to being a certified shop for remediation



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