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virgind 09-30-2015 08:50 AM

Whats the difference in or out of the villages you dont think the bad guys come in here. Really you should rethink some of the comments.

outlaw 09-30-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1121970)
Whats the difference in or out of the villages you dont think the bad guys come in here. Really you should rethink some of the comments.

The bad guys can't get in here. It's a gated community....(kidding for those oh so serious posters).

golfing eagles 09-30-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1121970)
Whats the difference in or out of the villages you dont think the bad guys come in here. Really you should rethink some of the comments.

No, I don't think the bad guys come here in any significant numbers. This is also the opinion of the US Dept of Justice and Florida authorities. Statistically, area codes 32162 &3 are among the lowest crime rates in the country. I had a post some months ago with the exact numbers

golfing eagles 09-30-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1121959)
Hey! Settle down there partner. No need to get upset. I just disagreed with your assumptions. I don't have them in front of me, but pretty much all of them, I think. Your assumptions are biased toward the unsuccessful use of a firearm for self protection. You did not present any potential upside. Does that make you a bad person? Of course not. You just happen to be biased against firearms as a viable self defense tool. I happen to think it is the primary, most practical means of self defense. Of course, the best defense is not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But that is not always easy. Going to Walmart can result in an attack as you load your car with merchandise. Please don't be offended, but how else can you describe your statements, other than assumptions. You stated the 70 yo lady with a gun is no match for a 20 yo. What was your basis for that comment? You stated she would probably hesitate using her firearm to the point that it would not help her. What was your basis for that conclusion? See where I'm going? You may not have even realized your anti-gun bias. But your "assumed" scenarios are loaded with bias. You may see me as pro-gun biased. I don't take offense to that. That is your opinion. All is good.

ROFL!!!! I didn't realize I was upset, offended, or biased against guns.

I must be suffering from a lack of clarity of expression, since I agree with you, but I guess that got lost in translation..

I fully support well trained CCP holders carrying, regardless of age or gender, per their 2nd amendment rights. In 95% of encounters with "the bad guys", it is an advantage. I was only referring to the other times where things don't work out as well, we all know an encounter involving guns can turn south on a dime, and some of the possible reasons that can occur. I'll still stand by the hesitancy comment, most LEOs would agree that it takes years to overcome that natural tendency--most of us have a sense of morality that makes us hesitant to take a life--but no so much for "the bad guys"
I guess my only other point is that there is a time and place for everything. You probably don't need to carry 100% of the time, I was going to say not on a golf course, for example. But then again, after reading about some behavior on the execs........

outlaw 09-30-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1121987)
No, I don't think the bad guys come here in any significant numbers. This is also the opinion of the US Dept of Justice and Florida authorities. Statistically, area codes 32162 &3 are among the lowest crime rates in the country. I had a post some months ago with the exact numbers

I'm assuming you're an MD. So I thought you might enjoy this link. It is a somewhat lengthy review/analysis of the 2nd A. I thought you may enjoy the methodical approach.

A CRITICAL GUIDE TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT

Patty55 09-30-2015 09:48 AM

I've always felt safe here, maybe when the big Wildwood wall goes up less people will feel the need to carry.

I think if I was going to carry I'd get one of those thigh high leg garter type of holsters. Purse carrying wouldn't work because the gun is too heavy and ruins your purse.

tomwed 09-30-2015 10:26 AM

"Better Prada, than Nada" [kidding]
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graciegirl 09-30-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1121970)
Whats the difference in or out of the villages you dont think the bad guys come in here. Really you should rethink some of the comments.


If you were speaking to me...yes, I know bad guys come in here. The burglars will soon be back, they seem to come in spurts and even seasonally. There are villagers with no moral compass or addicted to booze or drugs or never have been any damn good.


BUT....as a group, we are far more law abiding and have far less crime than like sized cities. I am not anti-gun. I just don't like that some folks think that all people need one. I knew when I flunked archery that hitting a target was not gonna be my strong suit.


I intensly dislike to be targeted by evangelistic vegetarians and evangelistic gun folks. I don't care if you carry, and a lot of times I am glad you do......just don't care if I don't carry. Have a carrot?

dewilson58 09-30-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 1122020)
I've always felt safe here, maybe when the big Wildwood wall goes up less people will feel the need to carry.

I think if I was going to carry I'd get one of those thigh high leg garter type of holsters. Purse carrying wouldn't work because the gun is too heavy and ruins your purse.

Thigh high leg garter.....................that's where I carry mine.

tomwed 09-30-2015 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1122078)
Thigh high leg garter.....................that's where I carry mine.

Better chafe, than sorry [I think I'm on to something]

dbussone 09-30-2015 11:10 AM

Villages ladies packing??
 
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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 1122020)
I've always felt safe here, maybe when the big Wildwood wall goes up less people will feel the need to carry.



I think if I was going to carry I'd get one of those thigh high leg garter type of holsters. Purse carrying wouldn't work because the gun is too heavy and ruins your purse.


They make purses that are designed to safely carry guns. And believe me, if most women carry as much stuff in their purses as my wife, another pound won't make a difference. Attachment 55185

I'd include a picture of a specially designed bra as well, but I understand this is a family thread, rated G (for gun).

outlaw 09-30-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 1122020)
I've always felt safe here, maybe when the big Wildwood wall goes up less people will feel the need to carry.

I think if I was going to carry I'd get one of those thigh high leg garter type of holsters. Purse carrying wouldn't work because the gun is too heavy and ruins your purse.

Now you're talkin'.:agree:

Patty55 09-30-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1122094)
They make purses that are designed to safely carry guns. And believe me, if most women carry as much stuff in their purses as my wife, another pound won't make a difference. Attachment 55185

I'd include a picture of a specially designed bra as well, but I understand this is a family thread, rated G (for gun).

The good thing about the garter is if your skirt is short enough or you have a tendency to dance with your skirt over your head it is no longer concealed.:22yikes:

outlaw 09-30-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1122009)
ROFL!!!! I didn't realize I was upset, offended, or biased against guns.

I must be suffering from a lack of clarity of expression, since I agree with you, but I guess that got lost in translation..

I fully support well trained CCP holders carrying, regardless of age or gender, per their 2nd amendment rights. In 95% of encounters with "the bad guys", it is an advantage. I was only referring to the other times where things don't work out as well, we all know an encounter involving guns can turn south on a dime, and some of the possible reasons that can occur. I'll still stand by the hesitancy comment, most LEOs would agree that it takes years to overcome that natural tendency--most of us have a sense of morality that makes us hesitant to take a life--but no so much for "the bad guys"
I guess my only other point is that there is a time and place for everything. You probably don't need to carry 100% of the time, I was going to say not on a golf course, for example. But then again, after reading about some behavior on the execs........

My response was in jest. I was just returning the "Whoa." I really don't get upset by many posts and I didn't think you were upset with mine. Not to argue with you, but I do enjoy this subject. I think that a person that CCs regularly, and pulls their gun, are usually scared/threatened/frightened enough to pull the trigger immediately if the bad guys don't run first. If a man approaches with a knife and you see him coming, if you are carrying, I believe you would not hesitate to pull the gun and warn him; one more step and you would pull the trigger. When it goes down, most people are not going to think logically. They are going to shoot if they feel threatened. Of course, this is just my opinion. People that have decided not to carry may see it differently, which is why they do not carry. There are so many instances where a CCer shot without hesitation, because the gun never came out until they felt it was do or die.

Chatbrat 09-30-2015 11:40 AM

With the price of ammo those days--warning shots are history--make everyone count & empty the gun-this way it can't be used against you & if you have to go to court-you will be the only who can testify


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