facebook is known for giving a forum to people who want to spout any nonsense...it is not true because it is on the internet, but many of us villagers have ccws

my preference as well, pocket carry .380 or 9mm

Florida is the same, a comprehensive training program plus you must show proficiency with a weapon.

I agree that I don't think you need to carry in TV. However, if you leave TV you might want to have something with you depending where you go. The bad guys (and girls) still car jack and exhibit road rage so if you are trained why wouldn't you do what is necessary to protect both you and your family? I don't think passive or submissive works anymore....IMO

That's actually kind of a funny comment. How is Facebook (a monitored Villages Facebook page) any different than TOTV?
With Facebook you are not really anonymous. With TOTV you can be. On TOTV no info is really out there except want you want out there.

And if you go to Orlando you are entering bad guy territory IMO.

I don't believe you need to go that far to be in bad guy territory. Some of the locals that attend the square look gang like enough to cause concern. Heck some of the villagers in the historic district look like bad guys...JK

So far I have not seen the need in the nine years we have lived here to carry a firearm around on me. You may see my lifeless body on the square, done in by a line dancer with a good left.


Some of the villagers in Premier neighborhoods look like bad guys too...according to the eternal, almost never stopping tree thread.
and certain folks posting on that thread wishing to malign all folks from villages with certain attributes. Say price of homes. Bad on them.


There is far less nasty here than in many other areas of this planet. Far less.


Good morning. It is another beautiful day in The Villages..

I agree, I really can't get behind the concept of the average senior citizen female Villager carrying (not intended as sexist or age discriminatory)

1) The average 70 year old woman, even with a CWP, is not physically capable of confronting a 20 year old man
2) If that person is contemplating using their weapon, they better be darned sure they are being confronted with LETHAL force, otherwise they may be trading their dream for an 8x12 cell
3) Given #2, by the time it is clear the assailant possesses lethal force, it is probably too late to get a gun out of a purse
4) If raised like most of us, this person will likely hesitate a few seconds to pull the trigger, the 20 year old will not
5) If there is more than one assailant, your odds just took a nosedive
6) Therefore, unless approached from 40 feet away by a knife wielding maniac shouting that he is going to kill you, you are more likely to get killed by your own gun (and if you do shoot him, better make sure he is not an ethnic minority, under 18, or of subnormal intelligence or the media will convict you without a trial---best to have no witnesses)

I am not anti-gun---I'll defend your 2nd amendment rights even though I personally don't own a gun. In fact, when some nut job comes to a movie to shoot it up, I like the idea of a few well trained gun carrying patrons in the audience. I just don't want the person with the CWP to be the victim.

Also, I doubt there are many gang members flocking to the squares for the type of entertainers we have performing. Just don't invite Jay Zee or LL Cool J to perform. And to the extent that a few gang bangers show up, we can hire them to keep the seat savers and the line dancers in check:1rotfl:

you've made an awful lot of assumptions about trained gun owners being inept, gang members? there have been armed robberies here....

Wow! Lots of unfounded assumptions supporting the anti-gun position. Starting with number 1; if you think a 70 yo woman with a gun is incapable against a 20 yo, then what do you think her chances are without a gun?! After that, 2 thru 6 are just about as biased. Do you know there are countless incidences in which a prospective assailant(s) turned and ran when the victim merely revealed the gun?

Look into my eyes. No one is disagreeing. THIS is not a place where a gun is needed to be carried ..........YET.


Maybe someday, maybe soon. But not yet. This is NOT ORLANDO. I heard that Minnie got her carry permit last week.


Don't start something when there isn't a problem...YET........no one is trying to disagree with you or anyone's second amendment rights.


Sit down. Deep breaths.

Just because I used an exclamation point doesn't mean I am excited or wound up. I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me. I'm more interested in honest open debate and learning others' opinions regardless of whether they agree with me.

Whoa!!! Slow down.

I clearly stated I was NOT anti-gun
And I don't think the 70 year old woman is "incapable", I was just pointing out there can be some downside to such an encounter

Beyond that, which "unfounded assumption" do you disagree with?---the legal restrictions on use of lethal force, the declining odds against multiple assailants, or the natural hesitancy to pull the trigger that takes years of training to overcome?

And I didn't bring up "gangs", just responded with the opinion that there probably not a lot of gangs hanging around for the nightly entertainment

No insult, but is it possible you were assuming that I was assuming?:024:

Hey! Settle down there partner. No need to get upset. I just disagreed with your assumptions. I don't have them in front of me, but pretty much all of them, I think. Your assumptions are biased toward the unsuccessful use of a firearm for self protection. You did not present any potential upside. Does that make you a bad person? Of course not. You just happen to be biased against firearms as a viable self defense tool. I happen to think it is the primary, most practical means of self defense. Of course, the best defense is not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But that is not always easy. Going to Walmart can result in an attack as you load your car with merchandise. Please don't be offended, but how else can you describe your statements, other than assumptions. You stated the 70 yo lady with a gun is no match for a 20 yo. What was your basis for that comment? You stated she would probably hesitate using her firearm to the point that it would not help her. What was your basis for that conclusion? See where I'm going? You may not have even realized your anti-gun bias. But your "assumed" scenarios are loaded with bias. You may see me as pro-gun biased. I don't take offense to that. That is your opinion. All is good.