What? Our fees are very low here. All of your complaints are ridiculous.

I wonder why people post this kind of stuff. If, the villages it is not right for you, I truly hope you will find something more suited to your needs are happy.

If, you don't drive and don't like the heat. There are many places you might like better.
A city will offer more public transit. New York City is great for that. New York City does get hot in the summer and there is snow.

Assuming you are retired, The world is your oyster. Be happy in it where ever you choose.

I do not doubt what you say. I placed a post that they might like New York City that has a fine public transportation, probably one of the best in the world. Sadly he/she/it is a miserable person who needs to leave a post, for what purpose?

I truly wish them well. Well, away from me.

So we have a really badly written, very negative post. Followed by how many pages of dogpiling on the person who posted it?

"Florida's Friendliest Hometown" my left butt-cheek.

who are you
 

First I am sorry you are impotant, and remember if things are free it us a good thing, I live here but never get on top of my neighbors home. Perhaps you got tipsy one night or two.My father in law used to say if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen, but were you in the kitchen when you wrote this? I totally misunderstood go their , like to their house or what? Thank God you wrote this eloquent letter to warn the world about the issues as it relates to home ownership in The Villages. You sound like quite the expert.

I have a car but never drive it. Everything I need is available via my golf cart. Maybe you live in wrong area.

Judge Judy
 

I’m gonna answer with a famous Judge Judy quote
Your an adult, if you don’t like where you are

MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you visit the wrong place ?
 

All those things you can see when you visit. If you don't want that why would you think about moving here????????

If you hate everything about The Villages, why are you wasting your time on this site?

I think this might be a case of the original poster drinking and typing. 😀

Great you identified your complaints and unhappiness before you bought a house here. Now you can search for a place that will make you happy. Hopefully it’s a long way from The Villages so you don’t suffer even a twang of unhappiness… a long, long way away!

Sometimes I do not think this stuff is worth reading but, today, it was good for a laugh.

I’m with you. You know reading the thread will be a train wreck, but you laugh the whole time, then take time to respond to the thread.

Don't let the door hit you in your butt on your way out, Buh bye!

If you don't like the villages " Lets go Joe"

Been there, done that. They finally took down the temporary ten cent toll on the Southern State years after it was supposed to end. It was not only slowing traffic but it cost more to collect it than it brought in. That connects to the Belt Parkway, they have been repairing it for the past 50 years. Hope of them finishing it-zero. Traffic? How about taxes?

Real Estate? Prices are sky rocketing in Florida. People in NY are running from the crime.
You can get some great deals in Upstate NY.

Reality, we can chose to be happy or miserable anywhere. It is a choice. Re: Older home vs new home. Assuming you have an older home, it is worth far more than you paid for it. I'm no cockeyed optimist but some look at a lawn and see the weeds others see the flowers-it is a choice. It is the same lawn.

Whatever happens to the class nerd, as they age?

I've never heard that one before. But, it is a good one. Rope used to be made from natural fiber. Usually hemp, same as marijuana. In any case when, new it is hard and scratchy.
A well used rope would be far softer. With either you would end up dead from a hanging but, at least a used rope would not irritate your neck as much. Do not antagonize the hangman is also sage advice. Perhaps, delivered before a good discussion before an application of a belt. We did not have cell phones or child protection services and there was far less crime.

You’re right TV is not for everyone. Seems like you miss Long Island, if that’s where you’re happiest go there. The rest of us will stay here and enjoy all those things you don’t like 👍.

they offered me lots of water ,so much that I’ve bought and sold 6 houses here and no complaints about anything

I've read our federal tax law is 86,000 pages.

Rules, years ago I got a printed copy of the New York ticket code. I don't recall why I requested it. Likely fighting yet another ticket. Some that I remember, not sure if it is also true in Florida but I expect it is. You cannot leave your car in the same place for 24 hours, that is storing your car on the street. If, you look hard enough, you will likely have a mark on your windshield from a pebble. They can ticket you for that. Hanging junk from your mirror is also illegal. So is driving barefoot. Sort of makes me wonder. If, you have a sunpass, can they claim it blocks your vision.

You can and should claim some of these things are an abuse of power.

That is very unfair of you. You do not know what the poster is dealing with. People in a nursing home probably will not accept moving to another place. Hopefully you have no idea what it is like to watch a parent turn into a ?????????

I do not golf (did try it 2x) and I don’t like the heat however I hate the cold more. I moved from the NE. There is still a lot to do here and I am so glad to own and live here full time. In a few years when I retire I hope to do more and maybe that will include golf.

Information overload.

Agree, don't move here.

Most retiree that are up in age need community transportation because they can know
 

longer to drive. Being a senior community why can they have free travel or paid community travel to different rec. center, shopping, doctor appointments The amenities fees that they charge can be included in their fees. This is a Hugh draw back for seniors over 75 years old. If they did this myself then housand of other seniors would consider buying there. This is my opinions please respect my opinion.

OK, consider your opinion "respected".

However, just what kind of transportation is "free"---there are drivers, vehicles, maintenance and gas that all cost money. Include it in the amenity fee? Why should I pay for someone else's transportation? There are multiple transportation options inside the villages, and I don't see it as a huge? drawback, and I doubt "thousands" of other would either. Besides, where else can an over 75 senior live that includes "free" transportation other than an all inclusive facility, usually an apartment building with a concierge at a pretty high monthly rent.

May you find your "happy place".

It's called Uber or Lyft in most places and there is a per ride charge. There are persons here who will drive you places in TV but it's never going to be free.
I am curious about the following: Do you live in TV? If you don't, why do you post here and why are most of your posts critical of where we live?

Not everyone golfs here and everyone not good golfers.

So, you saying you can’t comprehend it? Or you just like feeling superior.

Not close, didn’t mention dogs, dog poop, single lane roundabouts, speeders, divot repair, developers to name few.

So I guess you are NOT an educated consumer. Most smart people do research on an area that they are looking to move to and get credible information on the area. I for one researched The Villages online for over a year. Then on a visit to relatives in Orlando we drove up to TV and did a quick tour for a couple of days to see if it was worth a Lifestyle Visit, and it was. We then scheduled a Lifestyle visit during the off season and then again during high season to gage different things like traffic. Then one more visit in a non Lifestyle Visit rental home and rented a golf cart also too. check out even more thing like what type of home and where. Went home and talked about it, decided yes this is it. Knowing what we wanted and having a good working relationship with our agent we watch online and purchased a home by phone/internet/agent. But we were prepared and extremely happy.Thanks to Gerry Andrews!

I agree with your idea, but not for that reason or with that methodology. I'm 100% in favor of some sort of community-based "public transportation" system. I've posted as such previously. Not amenity-fee (though perhaps a % of all amenity fees collected could go toward the initial purchase of an office, garage, and vehicles) based. More like a public tram system where trams will stop at rec centers to pick up and drop off passengers, and make a stop at one (or two) of the town squares, and one (or two, or three) shopping/medical centers.

Maybe with a paid monthly pass, paid unlimited day-pass, and paid 3-day passes for visitors. Could even have seasonal passes, or yearly passes. No "senior discount" because it'd be assumed the passenger is a senior.

The passes would be directly connected to your Villager ID or visitor's ID pass. Scan and board, easy peasy.

That is a wonderful idea, but possibly a bit too Utopian at this time.

Pretty much anyone who is able to drive a car or a golf cart will generally want to do so, and that is easily 95+% of the population of TV.
So, this leaves people who can no longer drive a vehicle, but aren't ready for assisted living or a nursing facility, and don't live a short walk away from what they want, such as those in the Brownwood Lofts. So it is not a necessity for very many residents.
Meanwhile, given the size of TV, and the number of Rec Centers, pools, restaurants, stores, and medical offices, it would require quite a few "trolleys" at a substantial cost. And remember, those passengers still have to get to the trolley stop. Will the trollies be handicapped accessible? Will they accommodate scooters and electric wheelchairs? Will the driver assist these people? How long will a "circuit" be? How much will loading 2 or 3 mobility devices delay the route? Will people have to stand 1/2 an hour in the rain to catch these trollies.

I didn't mean to rain on your parade, because I agree it is a good idea. But it appears to be cost prohibitive as well as having a multitude of logistical problems.

But they don’t complain about the golf.

It's not entirely utopian, this is already an option in some communities (albeit much smaller than ours). It's also not just for people who can't drive. It's also for people who want to let someone else do the driving for a change. It's a convenience. It reduces traffic, which is ALWAYS a good thing.

Some tram systems have elevating wheelchair ramps with space designated for wheelchairs. Scooters, no. Wheelchairs, yes. Some public transit systems have built their buses to carry bicycles on the front as well, so that's also a thing.

A tram isn't really a trolley (I had edited it, you probably responded to it pre-edit). A tram is more like a high-powered golf cart with 5-6 benches, each of which can accommodate 3-4 people. They're more or less open-air, with guard rails and a roof but no walls.

As for routing: you'd need "local" trams, a "central location," and regional commuter buses (those are the small ones like Workman has to get folks to the airport).

Local trams would be something like - a circuit that goes from Morse and 44 to points south - Monarch Grove, Citrus Grove, etc and up to Brownwood town square. Another one that would go 44 and Morse up to 466A and then around southwesterly to Brownwood town square. Another might go from somewhere on/near 466A and Morse northward, while another might go from 466A and Buena Vista Blvd northward. Each "local" tram would stop at the closest town square to them, and the closest shopping or medical center closest to them. One that connects up by Legacy and over Camino Real around the Savannah Center, and one that goes from the Savannah Center down Buena Vista to 466, stopping at the Polo grounds. There would be overlap, which is how it SHOULD work - so points south come north, points north go south, west and east meet in the middle as well.

Then - a "regional" would go from one town square to another, stopping only at strategic points (not going to rec centers). Brownwood would go to Sumter, Sumter would go to Spanish Springs. Maybe Brownwood would have another regional one going to the new Sawgrass (is that what it's called?)? Or perhaps it would be Sumter that does that.

There'd be 2-3 trams for each route so that there's always one coming back, one leaving, and one somewhere out in the distance furthest from the start and finish line.

Then there'd be the "direct route" buses that connect ONLY at the town squares. Great for folks who do monthly lunches in groups and don't want to take 10 golf carts or 5 cars, and want to make a day of it.

Imagine a bus taking you to your evening at the town square for dinner and dancing during market night or the antique car shows, and not having to worry about a parking space, or driving, or (because you know it happens) drinking and driving. Not having to pay a fortune for Uber, IF you can even find one available when you happen to want one.

Malls!! Who goes to malls anymore. As far as the heat, hey its Florida

What are these Malls and shop things that posters keep refering too?
Are they alternative sites to Amazon etc?:icon_wink: