Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2247188)

How many people have any of us met who are in the "wrong", committed a behavior that is actually very dangerous, and then if it is brought to their attention, they posture and puff up and, like this person, the only thing they have to back up their position are really nasty words and gestures ? ? You can tell them every time. They have no support for what they have done, so they have to revert to the lowest level of their "intellect". Letting people like this know that you recognize how illegal or dangerous their behavior is, you can at the least expect some really nasty vocabulary, and it could result in a bad beating or even being shot these days ! Civil behavior in a community designed for older folks is FAR from "civil" here !

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2247077)

A couple problems with that post:

A walker is not required to jump off the path when a cart (or cycle) approaches. Plus, there are sections of MMP that just don't have the space to do that.

A "courtesy" is just that, the pedestrian is not required to give a courtesy. On the other hand, the cart is required to yield the right of way.

A cart driver is not forced to drive in the opposite "lane" or into oncoming traffic by a pedestrian, he chooses to do so. The law would suggest he must take the other option---STOP or slow down until the oncoming lane is clear. I have no idea why any cart driver would think they are entitled to drive at max speed on a MMP, never slowing down, stopping or yielding. Actually, I do, I just wrote it----ENTITLEMENT

And finally, the last 2 sentences of the OP suggests that a cart only has to avoid pedestrians walking in the same direction as he is. Please don't test THAT theory.

Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2247430)

I will never forget the day decades ago in my 20s when I first realized some don’t get wiser as they get older. I was walking into Walgreens when an old man as nasty as can be was coming out. At that age and still hadn’t learned how to control his emotions. Reminded me of a two yo. I was shocked and definitely let down by this realization. I have since come to the conclusion that many never learn. I also learned that you never know how your actions will affect another. That man was probably too angry to even notice I was there. But he sure made a huge impression that has lasted a lifetime.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2247434)

So I got 3 walkers coming towards me blocking the whole lane with some traffic coming. I come to stop in my lane. Somebody has to give. I either have move off path into grass or to opposite lane when clear. Or the walkers stop, have to fall in single file, or step off till congestion clears. It’s not always clear cut. Nobody should demand right of way but give way to stay safe. if they don’t that entitlement IMO.

Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2247079)

We've all encountered someone like that if we've lived here any amount of time. I recall a guy coming out of a tunnel right after I'd passed it, over by the Sherrif's annex on 466. Apparently the guy was in a hurry for his softball game (he had on the clothes) and was late. Traffic was coming our way and he wanted to get past me. He was cursing and waving his fist. My first inclination would have been to slow down a bit just to be stubborn but thought it wasn't worth it, so pulled over. He went to pass me but stopped long enough to curse further. Hope he had a "good" day! Another time I was with a friend and had to stop at an intersection to cross. It was at that round-about going into LSL off of Buena Vista. Couldn't go as the car traffic was dense so the line behind me kept building. A guy about 3 or 4 carts back began to curse as he wanted things to move. My thought was "WOW!! So I should get killed so he can get wherever he felt he was more important to go??" People here need to dial it back. One day they might encounter someone who they can't intimidate!!

Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2247430)

I will never forget the day decades ago in my 20s when I first realized some don’t get wiser as they get older. I was walking into Walgreens when an old man as nasty as can be was coming out. At that age and still hadn’t learned how to control his emotions. Reminded me of a two yo. I was shocked and definitely let down by this realization. I have since come to the conclusion that many never learn. I also learned that you never know how your actions will affect another. That man was probably too angry to even notice I was there. But he sure made a huge impression that has lasted a lifetime.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2247434)

So I got 3 walkers coming towards me blocking the whole lane with some traffic coming. I come to stop in my lane. Somebody has to give. I either have move off path into grass or to opposite lane when clear. Or the walkers stop, have to fall in single file, or step off till congestion clears. It’s not always clear cut. Nobody should demand right of way but give way to stay safe. if they don’t that entitlement IMO.