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But it might because that person is more likely to get the virus and spawn a variant which may not respond to your vaccine. If the virus cannot replicate, it cannot mutate. You need that herd immunity to stop it in its track. Did you get the polio vaccine?

I would think it would be difficult because of all the people coming from other areas of the country. Also, there are younger people who aren’t eligible for shots yet who work here. There are people who are anti- vaccine here also. I hope those people who want one are able to get one as in the beginning Sumter county did not have a very good system and people had to go to other counties or go on a computer system which was difficult to navigate .

As a matter of fact, several cruise lines are already moving in that direction with all their staff being vaccinated and passengers will need to show proof of vaccination before boarding. At this moment the "hopeful" start of sailing again will be July, but that is an always moving target date.

Curious if those who dispute science/medicine to not be vaccinated will also not seak advanced healthcare should they get the virus.

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Originally Posted by Laraine (Post 1918407)

Some states/countries are now accepting proof of vaccination in lieu of quarantine for visitors.

I’m just wondering at what point the Villages decides we are close enough and unwrap the water fountains and open all the theaters. I’d love to see market night back at the squares, and the neighborhood monthly dinners allowed back at the rec centers. I know we, as a community, are not there yet. But I was hoping the vaccines would bring our case numbers among seniors down to pre-holiday levels. Maybe with folks personal doctors offering the shots as well as the 50-65 people able to get vaccinated we will get there.

As a retired MD I am disappointed by anti-vax excuses. I am old enough to remember the relief of parents when their kids got the Salk polio vaccine in 1955. I was one of the 1 million Salk pediatric trial subjects in 1954 and also took part in the Moderna Trial in 2020. The life you save may be someone you love.

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1918410)

Some states/countries are now accepting proof of vaccination in lieu of quarantine for visitors.

That’s just lip service, just like the states that had “quarantine” requirements. There was zero enforcement of those “requirements”...

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1918310)

The ignorance around the shot (not a vaccine) is truly amazing to me. Getting the shot does nothing to "reduce the probability of being infected". Whenever you are exposed to the virus (any virus), you are infected. The only hope of any shot (not a vaccine) is to have your body properly defend against it.

Having taken the shot (not a vaccine) is not like "Scotty - shields up". It does nothing to prevent you from inhaling the virus or getting it while picking your nose after coming in contact with it.

Take note: Over time ... EVERYONE will become infected with the virus ... PERIOD. The only thing a shot (not a vaccine) or your innate immune system (my preference) can do is respond to that infection. That RESPONSE is what determines if you get "sick". Lack of getting sick does not mean you have not been "infected".

A quiet controlled response means you won't even know you got infected (i.e. you don't get sick). A wild out-of-control response means you get sick from the infection (and then recover ... or not).

But, don't harbor any illusion that you will never get the virus because you got the shot (not a vaccine). That is inevitable. Everyone will get infected ... EVERYONE.

Definition of vaccine
: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease:
a: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated (see ATTENUATED sense 2) pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin)
b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)

Read this today. I was not clever enough to come up with this myself

If you want to see social distancing, loan somebody some money.

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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 1918140)

Governor DeSantis already said "no to vaccine passports" although other states may implement it.

He said his government would not require passports and that he hoped private businesses would take the same stance.

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Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1918070)

Let me get this right.

If you have been given both shots then you are "STILL" afraid if someone else has the 99% survivable flu virus????

No not afraid for myself. But afraid i may unknowingly pass it on to someone who cannot get vaccine due to compromised immunity system (like my daughter). It may be 99% survive able, but not for older people. And the ongoing side effects could be debilitating.

DONT BE SELFISH! GET A VACCINE FOR THE GOOD of the country.

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1918420)

That’s just lip service, just like the states that had “quarantine” requirements. There was zero enforcement of those “requirements”...

Actually, I know businesses were following the lead of the state. My company required a quarantine or a negative test before returning to work from out of state trips. I did the drive up testing on 441 the day before I got on the plane and gave my company the results Monday morning to avoid a quarantine period.

I know a handful of other people at different companies that had similar policies. One needed a negative test and 72 hours of no symptoms after the test.

New York was also enforcing it to varying levels. Had friends who live just over the NY/NJ border near me who got a knock on the door 5 days after coming back from FL.

For the most part there was no real enforcement from the state of NJ as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by Laraine (Post 1918407)

Not interested in cruises, so you can take all you wish. Did you get your vaccination for Legionnaires yet? :1rotfl::1rotfl: