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coffeebean 03-20-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1918443)
Not interested in cruises, so you can take all you wish. Did you get your vaccination for Legionnaires yet? :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Legionnaires is a dreadful disease BUT.........has Legionnaires caused a global pandemic. Didn't think so.

Finchs 03-20-2021 10:48 AM

I Question the Statistics!
 
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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1917855)
I see in Sumter county the percent of seniors vaccinated for COVID is leveling out at just over 60%. If we need 75% to hit herd immunity we’d need over 90% of those under 65 to be vaccinated, which seems unlikely.

Is there some number of seniors that intend to get vaccinated but haven’t yet? If so, what are they waiting for? I’m hopeful seeing the Villages Health is now inoculating their members.

Because of the lengthy delays in getting Covid Vaccinations in the county of your residence, many of us (me included) went way far away from our home counties to be vaccinated. If Sumter can say they have vaccinated 60%, that's pretty good--many of the residents already got theirs quicker elsewhere.

Byte1 03-20-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1918514)
Just so you know, my son and his wife are living proof that you can be reinfected after recovering from COVID. Apparently the reinfection was from one of the new strains. So don't believe that your kids and grandkids cannot be reinfected as well. (In the case of my kids, the reinfection, at least so far, does not seem as serious as the first bout was, but it is still bad-- with my daughter-in-law completely losing her sense of taste and smell.)

I know they can be reinfected. I told them that, too. But, they won't get it from me, regardless of what some insist. Life is full of dangers. Some of us just refuse to allow those dangers to stop us from living.
"The NHTSA reports that 13 cars out of every 100,000 are involved in a fatal accident, but motorcycles have a fatality rate of 72 per 100,000." However, there are many more fatalities by cars than motorcycles. Even though motorcycling is more dangerous than operating a car, there are dangers to both. Smoking can cause death, but so can drinking too much water in a short period.
Just pointing out that folks take chances every day. Some eat too much, some drink too much and some cross the street against the light. If you don't wish to get struck by lightening, stay home in your basement when there is a threat of a storm. If you do not wish to become infected, stay home in your basement during a "pandemic."

bonicka 03-20-2021 10:59 AM

Some, like myself, may have not been vaccinated yet, because they had Covid. Getting the shots too early after Covid , often brings the probability of getting sick after the shots, especially the second one. The antibodies in the body may be strong and do not mix well with those that are in the shot. It is best to wait 3-6 months after the contagious symptoms are gone, to get the shots. We had Covid in January. Before that, the shots for many were hard to get an appointment for. Now, we have been told by the doctors, to wait until April or May to get the shots. So the percentage for those getting shots may go up. Plus the younger people under 65, who have been waiting for shots, are just being able to register now.

GoPacers 03-20-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1918538)
I know they can be reinfected. I told them that, too. But, they won't get it from me, regardless of what some insist. Life is full of dangers. Some of us just refuse to allow those dangers to stop us from living.
"The NHTSA reports that 13 cars out of every 100,000 are involved in a fatal accident, but motorcycles have a fatality rate of 72 per 100,000." However, there are many more fatalities by cars than motorcycles. Even though motorcycling is more dangerous than operating a car, there are dangers to both. Smoking can cause death, but so can drinking too much water in a short period.
Just pointing out that folks take chances every day. Some eat too much, some drink too much and some cross the street against the light. If you don't wish to get struck by lightening, stay home in your basement when there is a threat of a storm. If you do not wish to become infected, stay home in your basement during a "pandemic."

You will NEVER know if you've infected another person with COVID, the flu, the common cold or any other disease. Such a declarative statement suggests your points are emotion vs logic.
Odds are that we all have infected another person with some disease at some point in our lives.

Any of us CAN infect anyone else with any disease. Thoughtful and respectful people will take precautions to reduce that probability. What those actions are is worthy of debate as you suggest (and I agree with). As a society this is not a novel concept. We have thousands of laws whose primary intent is to protect the many from the actions of the few.

Neils 03-20-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1917855)
I see in Sumter county the percent of seniors vaccinated for COVID is leveling out at just over 60%. If we need 75% to hit herd immunity we’d need over 90% of those under 65 to be vaccinated, which seems unlikely.

Is there some number of seniors that intend to get vaccinated but haven’t yet? If so, what are they waiting for? I’m hopeful seeing the Villages Health is now inoculating their members.

Data can be misleading. Add in the people that have had covid and recovered, plus unknown numbers of those that had the virus but were unsymptomatic.

Heard immunity may be much closer than it appears.

Byte1 03-20-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1918545)
You will NEVER know if you've infected another person with COVID, the flu, the common cold or any other disease. Such a declarative statement suggests your points are emotion vs logic.
Odds are that we all have infected another person with some disease at some point in our lives.

Any of us CAN infect anyone else with any disease. Thoughtful and respectful people will take precautions to reduce that probability. What those actions are is worthy of debate as you suggest (and I agree with). As a society this is not a novel concept. We have thousands of laws whose primary intent is to protect the many from the actions of the few.

That's life. Or, if your glass is half empty.....death.

oldtimes 03-20-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1918356)
I agree, the ignorance is amazing

That is an understatement. It’s like the Twilight Zone.

Velvet 03-20-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1918315)
You are so right. The information is out there if people would research rather than following what someone like Fauci, who has ties to the Wuhan lab, says. Check the cdc site for what's in it. You will be horrified. You can also find out the thousands of people who have been injured by the vaccine. There has not been one study that proves masks work, & before you argue, please post the scientific study. Fauci continually moves the goal post. If you believe anything he says, it's sad.

And the moon is made out of blue cheese too.

doodles 03-20-2021 01:21 PM

Stop thinking about yourself, think kids and grandkids. If you were holding your infant grand child in your arms wouldn’t you want to know the person next to you had been vaccinated

charmed59 03-20-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Finchs (Post 1918534)
Because of the lengthy delays in getting Covid Vaccinations in the county of your residence, many of us (me included) went way far away from our home counties to be vaccinated. If Sumter can say they have vaccinated 60%, that's pretty good--many of the residents already got theirs quicker elsewhere.

The published county numbers are not for the county giving out the vaccines, but the resident county where the person getting the vaccine lives. So those that went elsewhere show up in the Sumter numbers. And those seasonal folks that were vaccinated in Sumter county, but live out of state show up in the out of state category. We may have quite a few of that 112K pot.

The reason the Sumter County numbers kept rising despite GMR shutting down at the beginning of Feb was due to dedicated folks traveling about. And I, for one, appreciate that.

DeanFL 03-20-2021 01:51 PM

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We got both of our Moderna shots and all set. Very happy and comfortable with the decision and Sumter Co's service.

I sent an email to my 'ex', living in N.C. with her live-in. We're 'kinda-OK-friendly', and I mentioned about our Covid shots. She wrote back this morning>>

"XXXX and I are not on board with the experimental vaccines which make changes to your DNA. My sister XXXXX who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time ( she just retired last year) advises against getting the vaccine. She said she will not go near it. So we are holding out and just bolstering our immune systems with vitamins and supplements. There are good therapeutics and overall 98.5% survival rate which is better than for flu. (Also, Bill Gates has the patent on the Covid virus, the vaccine, and the testing kit- that makes this all very fishy!)"

Oh well.... I don't get it, but looks as if there IS quite a large % of Americans who feel that way and will be holdouts... for whatever reason. IMO why take the GIVEN risk of contracting Covid - esp at our age.
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Velvet 03-20-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1918606)
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We got both of our Moderna shots and all set. Very happy and comfortable with the decision and Sumter Co's service.

I sent an email to my 'ex', living in N.C. with her live-in. We're 'kinda-OK-friendly', and I mentioned about our Covid shots. She wrote back this morning>>

"XXXX and I are not on board with the experimental vaccines which make changes to your DNA. My sister XXXXX who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time ( she just retired last year) advises against getting the vaccine. She said she will not go near it. So we are holding out and just bolstering our immune systems with vitamins and supplements. There are good therapeutics and overall 98.5% survival rate which is better than for flu. (Also, Bill Gates has the patent on the Covid virus, the vaccine, and the testing kit- that makes this all very fishy!)"

Oh well.... I don't get it, but looks as if there IS quite a large % of Americans who feel that way and will be holdouts... for whatever reason. IMO why take the GIVEN risk of contracting Covid - esp at our age.
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Your ex is so funny, I almost... laughing. Except it is also so serious. Wish the very best to these fearful individuals.

LiverpoolWalrus 03-20-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1918150)
It’s not a vaccination against a virus. It is gene therapy. Completely different. Research and DD.

By “DD,” I think the poster means due diligence.

GoPacers 03-20-2021 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1918606)
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We got both of our Moderna shots and all set. Very happy and comfortable with the decision and Sumter Co's service.

I sent an email to my 'ex', living in N.C. with her live-in. We're 'kinda-OK-friendly', and I mentioned about our Covid shots. She wrote back this morning>>

"XXXX and I are not on board with the experimental vaccines which make changes to your DNA. My sister XXXXX who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time ( she just retired last year) advises against getting the vaccine. She said she will not go near it. So we are holding out and just bolstering our immune systems with vitamins and supplements. There are good therapeutics and overall 98.5% survival rate which is better than for flu. (Also, Bill Gates has the patent on the Covid virus, the vaccine, and the testing kit- that makes this all very fishy!)"

Oh well.... I don't get it, but looks as if there IS quite a large % of Americans who feel that way and will be holdouts... for whatever reason. IMO why take the GIVEN risk of contracting Covid - esp at our age.
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The COVID vaccine does NOT alter one's DNA. Geesh sheeple. It's amazing the cr&p that is out there and gets repeated to the point that people believe it.


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