Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1918486)

Maybe not. Surveys seem to show that a high percentage of one political party are refusing to be vaccinated, enough to prevent achieving a high enough percentage of vaccinations to achieve herd immunity. I can’t figure out why politics should effect medical decisions, but there’s a lot of our national politics that I don’t understand these days.

My wife and I got the Pfizer vaccine and still use masks and practice social distancing. We feel personally safe and have high confidence that we won’t pass any virus on to others.

Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1918639)

The COVID vaccine does NOT alter one's DNA. Geesh sheeple. It's amazing the cr&p that is out there and gets repeated to the point that people believe it.

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1918606)

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We got both of our Moderna shots and all set. Very happy and comfortable with the decision and Sumter Co's service.

I sent an email to my 'ex', living in N.C. with her live-in. We're 'kinda-OK-friendly', and I mentioned about our Covid shots. She wrote back this morning>>

"XXXX and I are not on board with the experimental vaccines which make changes to your DNA. My sister XXXXX who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time ( she just retired last year) advises against getting the vaccine. She said she will not go near it. So we are holding out and just bolstering our immune systems with vitamins and supplements. There are good therapeutics and overall 98.5% survival rate which is better than for flu. (Also, Bill Gates has the patent on the Covid virus, the vaccine, and the testing kit- that makes this all very fishy!)"

Oh well.... I don't get it, but looks as if there IS quite a large % of Americans who feel that way and will be holdouts... for whatever reason. IMO why take the GIVEN risk of contracting Covid - esp at our age.
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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 1917875)

Given the general definition: immunity or resistance to a particular infection that occurs in a group of animals when a very high percentage of individuals have been vaccinated or previously exposed to the infection, yes, herd immunity, including variants, will likely occur sometime.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1918684)

Good luck to her
But for everyone else, so they don't get misinformed, this is a PSA:

The vaccine is no longer "experimental", it is the standard of care
It DOES NOT alter your DNA
The survival rate of seasonal flu is 99.9%+
And "vitamins and supplements" are fine, but they won't protect you from COVID

Originally Posted by nick demis (Post 1918704)

Herd immunity occurs when a combination of vaccines and natural immunity occurs. We may already be there.

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1918606)

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We got both of our Moderna shots and all set. Very happy and comfortable with the decision and Sumter Co's service.

I sent an email to my 'ex', living in N.C. with her live-in. We're 'kinda-OK-friendly', and I mentioned about our Covid shots. She wrote back this morning>>

"XXXX and I are not on board with the experimental vaccines which make changes to your DNA. My sister XXXXX who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time ( she just retired last year) advises against getting the vaccine. She said she will not go near it. So we are holding out and just bolstering our immune systems with vitamins and supplements. There are good therapeutics and overall 98.5% survival rate which is better than for flu. (Also, Bill Gates has the patent on the Covid virus, the vaccine, and the testing kit- that makes this all very fishy!)"

Oh well.... I don't get it, but looks as if there IS quite a large % of Americans who feel that way and will be holdouts... for whatever reason. IMO why take the GIVEN risk of contracting Covid - esp at our age.
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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1918054)

It's very healthy to re-breathe your own carbon dioxide.

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1918606)

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We got both of our Moderna shots and all set. Very happy and comfortable with the decision and Sumter Co's service.

I sent an email to my 'ex', living in N.C. with her live-in. We're 'kinda-OK-friendly', and I mentioned about our Covid shots. She wrote back this morning>>

"XXXX and I are not on board with the experimental vaccines which make changes to your DNA. My sister XXXXX who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time ( she just retired last year) advises against getting the vaccine. She said she will not go near it. So we are holding out and just bolstering our immune systems with vitamins and supplements. There are good therapeutics and overall 98.5% survival rate which is better than for flu. (Also, Bill Gates has the patent on the Covid virus, the vaccine, and the testing kit- that makes this all very fishy!)"

Oh well.... I don't get it, but looks as if there IS quite a large % of Americans who feel that way and will be holdouts... for whatever reason. IMO why take the GIVEN risk of contracting Covid - esp at our age.
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Originally Posted by nick demis (Post 1918704)

Herd immunity occurs when a combination of vaccines and natural immunity occurs. We may already be there.

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 1918762)

Correction: Herd immunity may occur when a combination of vaccines and natural immunity occurs. We may, or may not, already be there.

Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1918603)

The published county numbers are not for the county giving out the vaccines, but the resident county where the person getting the vaccine lives. So those that went elsewhere show up in the Sumter numbers. And those seasonal folks that were vaccinated in Sumter county, but live out of state show up in the out of state category. We may have quite a few of that 112K pot.

The reason the Sumter County numbers kept rising despite GMR shutting down at the beginning of Feb was due to dedicated folks traveling about. And I, for one, appreciate that.

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1918606)

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We got both of our Moderna shots and all set. Very happy and comfortable with the decision and Sumter Co's service.

I sent an email to my 'ex', living in N.C. with her live-in. We're 'kinda-OK-friendly', and I mentioned about our Covid shots. She wrote back this morning>>

"XXXX and I are not on board with the experimental vaccines which make changes to your DNA. My sister XXXXX who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time ( she just retired last year) advises against getting the vaccine. She said she will not go near it. So we are holding out and just bolstering our immune systems with vitamins and supplements. There are good therapeutics and overall 98.5% survival rate which is better than for flu. (Also, Bill Gates has the patent on the Covid virus, the vaccine, and the testing kit- that makes this all very fishy!)"

Oh well.... I don't get it, but looks as if there IS quite a large % of Americans who feel that way and will be holdouts... for whatever reason. IMO why take the GIVEN risk of contracting Covid - esp at our age.
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1918455)

Mass hysteria at it's finest. So many needy people that insist that the gov. protect them, instead of being able/responsible for themselves. Use some common sense and protect yourself from the boogieman. If you do not get the vaccination, then don't expect me to protect you. You have already decided and have to reap the results one way or the other. It's your decision and should NOT be the gov's. Wear a mask or don't wear one. It will have absolutely no effect on me. I have my vaccination, but doubt if I would have become infected anyway. That is my decision and the gov did not make it for me. I have no intention of wearing a mask now, other than if I wish to shop at a place where a mask is requested. And then, I wear it below my nose. If that offends you, cry me a river. If you don't like it, stay a safe distance away, preferably at your home. My children and grandkids have had the virus and shrugged it off in a couple of days or so. They can visit me and I have no fear of infection whatsoever. Want to disagree, that is your prerogative.
The experts I am listening to right now, state that once vaccinated you cannot pass on the virus, period. According to them (whether right or wrong) once the virus enters your system, it is destroyed so you cannot pass it on. Like I have said before, I am not an expert. But, I refuse to listen to gov experts that are nothing more than political hacks. Regardless of credentials, I don't trust them. That is my opinion. So, go on your cruise and feel safe because someone mandates proof of vaccination. But, remember it was the cruise that was one of the first points of infection into the U.S. And remember, many cruises come back to port with a whole ship full of sick folks. There are other diseases out there besides Corona. Same goes with airlines and flying. If you are scared, stay at home. Quit expecting others to conform to your fears.