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fdpaq0580 10-20-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2266853)
Higher? How about guaranteed that a house on a golf course will be hit by a ball. That's about the third time somebody used the auto scenario in this thread. Still doesn't change the legalities on a golf course.

Death and taxes are the only things absolutely guaranteed, or so I've been told.

fdpaq0580 10-20-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2266961)
humor sheldon, humor.

I got the humor. I guess I should have acknowledged it.

By the way, the name is Fred. You have me confused with someone named Sheldon.

Have a great day.

Whitley 10-20-2023 12:27 PM

Are golfers responsible for broken windows in Florida?
Golfers are responsible for the damage they cause to your home. That's fine, if the golfer owns up to hitting a ball through your picture window, but often the culprit will just move on down the fairway, whistling as if nothing ever happened.

Insuring Florida's Golf Course Homes - Carli Insurance Agency Address: 2680 W Lake Mary Blvd, Lake Mary, FL 32746

Phone: (407) 322-3600

golfing eagles 10-20-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2266974)
Are golfers responsible for broken windows in Florida?
Golfers are responsible for the damage they cause to your home. That's fine, if the golfer owns up to hitting a ball through your picture window, but often the culprit will just move on down the fairway, whistling as if nothing ever happened.

Insuring Florida's Golf Course Homes - Carli Insurance Agency Address: 2680 W Lake Mary Blvd, Lake Mary, FL 32746

Phone: (407) 322-3600

What makes you think golfers are responsible? I suggest you read my post from the Florida Supreme Court decision as well as other lower courts.

dewilson58 10-20-2023 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2266974)
Are golfers responsible for broken windows in Florida?
Golfers are responsible for the damage they cause to your home. That's fine, if the golfer owns up to hitting a ball through your picture window, but often the culprit will just move on down the fairway, whistling as if nothing ever happened.

Insuring Florida's Golf Course Homes - Carli Insurance Agency Address: 2680 W Lake Mary Blvd, Lake Mary, FL 32746

Phone: (407) 322-3600

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Carl's website is selling, not informing.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

CoachKandSportsguy 10-20-2023 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zummy (Post 2266047)
Our bedroom window was broken by an errant golf ball

Must be a new retiree, who hasn't had time to practice enough prior to retirement.

I've hit shrubs, roofs, over roofs, into roads, front doors, but windows? that's beyond responsible golfing. .

dewilson58 10-20-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2266999)
Must be a new retiree, who hasn't had time to practice enough prior to retirement.

I've hit shrubs, roofs, over roofs, into roads, front doors, but windows? that's beyond responsible golfing. .

That's not easy.
Great shot!!!

golfing eagles 10-20-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2267014)
That's not easy.
Great shot!!!

Bounced it off the windshield of the car parked in the driveway :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

bilcon 10-22-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2266087)
I'll bet $100, he also has a "No Trespassing" sign ... if not, the sign says: "No Looking for Balls".

If you read the Villages Golf Etiquette Rules you would know:

Do not enter private property to look for or retrieve your golf ball.

I live on the golf course and love it, until someone starts walking through my flower beds looking for a ball. That's a no no!

bilcon 10-22-2023 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2266977)
What makes you think golfers are responsible? I suggest you read my post from the Florida Supreme Court decision as well as other lower courts.

There are legal laws and moral laws. I broke a window once and notified the homeowner. I said I would pay for it, although I was not legally responsible. I thought it was the right thing to do. We ended up splitting the cost. (Legal vs Moral)

tophcfa 10-22-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2267017)
Bounced it off the windshield of the car parked in the driveway :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Several years ago a guy at Beaver Brook Golf Course, in Williamsburg, MA, hit his t shot over the green on the par 3 4th hole and hit the windshield of a passing car on Rt. 9. The ball ricocheted off the windshield, back onto the green, and into the hole for a hole in one. A couple days later the guy was a guest on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno (back in the day when the show was still worth watching). Now that’s a lucky shot.

Topspinmo 10-22-2023 10:35 AM

So, if I’m at rifle range and stray Ricocheted bullet breaks window (that would be lease worries of many possible problems?) I’m not responsible right? I didn’t intentionally shoot at window, but I did pull the trigger? Now the range was there long before housing development popped up. Wonder why only golfers are not responsible for their action? lets see who golf’s, who makes rules? Upper 20%.

ThirdOfFive 10-22-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2267442)
Several years ago a guy at Beaver Brook Golf Course, in Williamsburg, MA, hit his t shot over the green on the par 3 4th hole and hit the windshield of a passing car on Rt. 9. The ball ricocheted off the windshield, back onto the green, and into the hole for a hole in one. A couple days later the guy was a guest on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno (back in the day when the show was still worth watching). Now that’s a lucky shot.

Had a ball bounce right in front of my car on El Camino Real a couple of years back, just as I got level with green #1 on El Diablo. It bounced high enough to clear my car by a good margin and ended up in the median. I often walk the MMP along that stretch too: both the 1st hole as well as the 2nd one are good places to find balls that escape the fence. My harvest of balls always picks up when snowbirds are more prevalent.

On the topic of "impossible coincidence" I saw my wife do something similar (though not nearly as newsworthy as the guy who bounced one off a moving windshield). She had about 90 yards to go to the pin on her second shot on a course UpNort and hit a towering shot that came down smack in the hole, with the pin still in place. Never touched the green; just hit and stuck. What are the odds?

dewilson58 10-22-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 2267437)
If you read the Villages Golf Etiquette Rules you would know:

Do not enter private property to look for or retrieve your golf ball.

I live on the golf course and love it, until someone starts walking through my flower beds looking for a ball. That's a no no!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbQTXFJL8lo

Papa_lecki 10-22-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 2267441)
There are legal laws and moral laws. I broke a window once and notified the homeowner. I said I would pay for it, although I was not legally responsible. I thought it was the right thing to do. We ended up splitting the cost. (Legal vs Moral)

So, you admitted liability. How will you feel when you get a letter from Morgan and Morgan explaining you’re a defendant for a lawsuit.
I’ve done the “right thing a few times” and regretted it in the long term.

Don’t think it could happen?

“A Massachusetts jury awarded Erik and Athina Tenczar $4.93 million last December, concluding that Indian Pond Country Club was at fault for not protecting the Tenczar’s home from a constant barrage of shots coming from the club’s 15th hole.”

And if you don’t think the country club wouldn’t pass liability off to the golfer….

“The balls began pelting his house and landing in his yard within weeks after he moved in, in early 1989. In May of last year, one broke a second-floor bedroom window. He later won a small claims court judgment against the club for $106.54 to cover his costs in replacing the window and filing the lawsuit. But the club, which says golfers are responsible for their own shots, has appealed.”

Yes, there’s precedent that golfer isn’t liable, but you still need to defend yourself to prove it - you know some lawyer will take the case.


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