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donassaid 07-06-2022 06:37 AM

So well said. Criticism of the PGA is so ridiculous. When a Pro can make more in 4 days than the vast majority of us in a year or oftentimes in 15-20 years, it is hard to feel sorry for them. If it wasn't for the PGA, Phil Mickelson would be selling shoes.

Rainger99 07-06-2022 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2113211)
Who then pay taxes on the monies they receive...

You want that money taxed twice? Watch their charitable contributions disappear...

Who is taxed twice?

donassaid 07-06-2022 06:46 AM

Oh please. How do you think batteries are charged? How do you thing charging stations are charged? What about the pollution from the mining of lithium batteries or in the disposal of them? We have plenty of oil and gas reserves in our own country but war has been declared on those industries in an effort to force people into electric cars. When you have to stop and charge your car 2-3 times on a trip, wait in line to hook up to a charger and wait another hour or two to charge it, let me know how great electric cars are.

golfing eagles 07-06-2022 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2113245)
Oh please. How do you think batteries are charged? How do you thing charging stations are charged? What about the pollution from the mining of lithium batteries or in the disposal of them? We have plenty of oil and gas reserves in our own country but war has been declared on those industries in an effort to force people into electric cars. When you have to stop and charge your car 2-3 times on a trip, wait in line to hook up to a charger and wait another hour or two to charge it, let me know how great electric cars are.

Wrong thread??????

Teemotay 07-06-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2112910)
Months ago, I never thought I’d say this. I don’t blame pro golfers to go to LIV Golf.

Hurts to say, but lifestyle, family time, and certainly BIG Bucks speak loudly.

Most of us have a price. And for those guys LIV hit the target. Not wanting to get into the Saudi thing, but the +s sure negate that negative.

Putting myself in a 35 year old PGA pro, and receiving an offer as they are…. Yikes tough to ignore.

I -kind of- admire guys like Rory, but money talks. And for those PGA pros with a healthy bank account, they have it made. Stick with PGA.

But Finally, a golfer said I did it for the money when going to LIV. I actually don’t recall who finally said it, but Finally a Switcher was honest.

I watched some of the John Deere match this weekend but became bored without the big names playing. Just saying.

Some of the LIV changes to the tourneys are quite god and I have watched some of the Portland match on Facebook. Was interesting. But LIV will need sponsors and a TV coverage deal to really succeed in the USA.

Competition is good and the PGA is getting it head-on.

I’m with you on this. I love that the monopoly PGA Tour now has some competition and that the players on both tours will have more of a say in the decision making that affects their lives and livelihoods.

We can all say what we’d do, but until you’re actually in the position to make a seriously life-changing decision then we’re just talking out of our behinds.

LIV is working on tv rights and other major issues to make their tour reach more folks. I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Portland event on YouTube TV.

I also think it’s pretty darn cool that they’re treating the caddies the way they are by paying their travel and lodging expenses. That’ll get more experienced caddies looking to make the leap to LIV in addition to the next PGA Tour players that will make the switch.

DanteFi 07-06-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 2113045)
Don’t see LaBran worry about China, just gimy my money bro, make me some more shoes in the sweat shops. Sports are over paid

Exactly!!

JMintzer 07-06-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2113228)
Taxed twice? Oh yeah the IRS code sure allows for that in so many ways.

Unfortunately, yes, they do...

And I think it sucks...

JMintzer 07-06-2022 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2113237)
So well said. Criticism of the PGA is so ridiculous. When a Pro can make more in 4 days than the vast majority of us in a year or oftentimes in 15-20 years, it is hard to feel sorry for them. If it wasn't for the PGA, Phil Mickelson would be selling shoes.

The PGA wouldn't exist (in today's form) without the players like Mickelson...

The same can be said for the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB...

JMintzer 07-06-2022 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2113244)
Who is taxed twice?

I was commenting on the poster who complained that the PGA pays no taxes.

I stated the monies paid out (in prize purses) are taxed as income...

It seemed to me, that the poster wanted the PGA to pay taxes and then have the players pay taxes as well...

Non-profits don't work that way...

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-06-2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Teemotay (Post 2113269)
I’m with you on this. I love that the monopoly PGA Tour now has some competition and that the players on both tours will have more of a say in the decision making that affects their lives and livelihoods.

We can all say what we’d do, but until you’re actually in the position to make a seriously life-changing decision then we’re just talking out of our behinds.

LIV is working on tv rights and other major issues to make their tour reach more folks. I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Portland event on YouTube TV.

I also think it’s pretty darn cool that they’re treating the caddies the way they are by paying their travel and lodging expenses. That’ll get more experienced caddies looking to make the leap to LIV in addition to the next PGA Tour players that will make the switch.

The PGA Tour is not have a monopoly. There are many competing tours. The PGA Tour just happens to attract the greatest players in the world. Until now, they pay out the most money and run the most prestigious events outside of the four majors. They have rules like all of the tours have and all sports organizations have. Members are allowed to play a certain number of competing events with a release from the Tour. Every player that joins the tour signs a document agreeing to this. If players prefer to play the DP World Tour, or any other tour for that matter, they have every right. They just have to give up their PGA Tour privileges.

hypart 07-06-2022 08:11 AM

The PGA has raised over $3 billion for charities and is a non-profit that is owned by the players. Also, they have set up an infrastructure for golfers to compete at all stages, not just the top players in the world. It is American owned and run by Americans. The tour does so much good for America.

The LIV is owned by the Saudis and run by an Australian. They do no charitable causes and help no one else in golf except themselves.

The players that have moved to LIV are not only traitors to their fellow golfers but traitors to this country.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-06-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2113288)
The PGA wouldn't exist (in today's form) without the players like Mickelson...

The same can be said for the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB...

Agree. Players LIKE Mickelson. It would still certainly exist if Phil Mickelson didn’t exist. No one player has made the tour what it is. Many have had a major influence in growing the Tour. Starting with Hogan, Palmer, Nicklaus and of course Tiger have had a big role in creating more interest in the Tour. Mickelson, not so much. He’s been a popular player but the tour would be exactly where it is today without Phil. The same can’t be said for the other players I mentioned.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-06-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2113237)
So well said. Criticism of the PGA is so ridiculous. When a Pro can make more in 4 days than the vast majority of us in a year or oftentimes in 15-20 years, it is hard to feel sorry for them. If it wasn't for the PGA, Phil Mickelson would be selling shoes.

The idea that a player makes all of his money over four days is ludicrous. These players work seven days a week on their games and often for twelve hours a day. Never mind all of the hours that they put in in the years before they qualify for the tour. We’re also looking at 150 people that can do something that most of the world cannot do. Yes, they can do well but they also sacrifice a lot. They are away from their families for weeks at a time and are constantly traveling on planes and staying in hotels. In addition to that, by entertaining millions of people they raise hundreds of millions of dollars for charity. Four days indeed.

Burgy 07-06-2022 08:25 AM

LIV Golf
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2112910)
Months ago, I never thought I’d say this. I don’t blame pro golfers to go to LIV Golf.

Hurts to say, but lifestyle, family time, and certainly BIG Bucks speak loudly.

Most of us have a price. And for those guys LIV hit the target. Not wanting to get into the Saudi thing, but the +s sure negate that negative.

Putting myself in a 35 year old PGA pro, and receiving an offer as they are…. Yikes tough to ignore.

I -kind of- admire guys like Rory, but money talks. And for those PGA pros with a healthy bank account, they have it made. Stick with PGA.

But Finally, a golfer said I did it for the money when going to LIV. I actually don’t recall who finally said it, but Finally a Switcher was honest.

I watched some of the John Deere match this weekend but became bored without the big names playing. Just saying.

Some of the LIV changes to the tourneys are quite god and I have watched some of the Portland match on Facebook. Was interesting. But LIV will need sponsors and a TV coverage deal to really succeed in the USA.

Competition is good and the PGA is getting it head-on.

Agree with you. If LIV gets some coverage on cable like USA OR TNT it might last or hold it's own.

Miekies 07-06-2022 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2112956)
LIV is boring. A few good players. They received so much up front the purses are peanuts for the top players.

The John Deere should be extinct. Beyond the majors Most tournaments are dull. Time for courses to be US Open difficult every week

The purses in the LIV tournaments are higher than the PGA and every single competitor gets some amount of money for playing the tournament. I think last is 125,000 or so.


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