Traitors to our country?? 😂😂😂

But the PGA Tour won’t give releases to its members who want to play in a competing tour such as LIV. They use their monopoly-like power to penalize them or strong arm them to stay and limit competition.

Money talks and BS walks -- they should at least be honest and admit to it being GREED - for whatever reason. I will stick with the PGA vs watching someone get big bucks for being +10 at the end of the tournament!!!

Just as you can watch any tour or tournament that you want, these players can play anywhere they want and they don’t have to explain their reasons for it to you or anyone else. It’s their decision alone.
Ask the PGA Tour why they can suddenly raise their purses for several tournaments. Was greed the reason that they waited until LIV came out and offered players a better option?

LIV and let LIV!

They don't strong arm anyone. They simply have a contract that limits the amount of competing tournaments that the players under contract can play.

Every sports organization in fact every company has rules that employees or contractors agree to obey. Many companies have non-compete clauses for after a person leaves their employee.

Can Aaron Judge decide that he's going to play for the Red Sox next week?

Can LeBron James decide that he's going to play in a game in The Premier Basketball League on a night when the Lakers are playing?

A league has to place restrictions on players in order to survive. You might take notice that the DP World Tour (formerly the European Tour) has also suspended players that are playing the LIV tour. Their players are also under contracts to which they agreed.

Well, let’s just call it anti-competitive rather than strong-armed. The MLB and NBA along with other sports leagues have minimum salaries for their players. The PGA Tour does not. A player is paid by his ability to perform well in a tournament. Totally different contracts and not a valid comparison.

The PGA Tour does not have a non compete clause. The decision is solely Jay Monaghan’s as to whether he’ll grant a player a release to play in other events and this is limited to 3, I believe.

The DP Tour and the PGA Tour are acting together to limit competition. Why are they afraid of LIV Golf? More tournaments and better pay for players and caddies and more exposure of golf around the world is not a bad thing.

I agree 100%. Let's face it, the LIV tour players went for the money grab. This last tournament the last place golfer was +21 for 3 rounds and got $128,000. He wouldn't have made the cut in a PGA tournament. Kind of gets me PO'ed since I was +14 in my last 3 rounds and had to pay $143 for the privilege :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Traitor? What about the NBA, China?
Tiger’s drunk, drugs and whoring around? He made money for PGA so all is forgiven. I wouldn’t want him for a role model for anyone. Has been.

Are you really serious? I don't see any pro golfer going hungry or living in poverty.

Just like most pro sports players they are all well overpaid.

Good for them...........
 

Imagine you are past your prime and cannot keep up with the competitors coming onto the scene. Hogan and Sneed gave rise to Palmer and Nicklaus who gave rise to Tiger Woods, the best of all time and time to come. Tiger Woods has given rise to a new breed of unknown golfers who can shoot low low numbers, and a lot of them. The golfers previously mentioned, Tiger included, could not compete with this new generation. They are shooting 7 to 10 under par in a single round. The problem is they are not the personalities as the previous players. There will never be another Lee Trevino. Once you start watching golf for personalities your not watching golf.

Professional golfers are a done deal at 30 nowadays. Last year the PGA paid 50 million to golfers who became media attracters. So Phil did his stupid stuff and Tiger only had to appear once in the Father Son to take first prize. While Phil being
goofy Phil came in 2nd again. What a waste of money.

So Greg Norman sees this trend of early has beens but still popular and decides to take advantage of it with the help of people who don't care about money. They just wanted to buy another toy. They don't have to make money just friends. Look at all of our wealthy that buy professional teams as their toy.

Discussions of dirty money are just hypocritical. If you really believe that, don't watch. AH, but you can't stay away. Who is the hypocrite.

Its a toy, it doesn't have to make sense or money. The game has reached a level where the competition is so great that many who were are no more. So what is their alternative, not much until now. Gut it out for four years and go to the bank weekly. Phil doesn't have to make a cut or any of them. Imagine becoming obsolete and then hitting the lottery. Good for them.........they will support America with their new tax contributions.....

Rory
 

I have to laugh when Rory McElroy talks about the PGA tour. When he was in his early 20s why did he come over here to the US to play in the PGA and not play on the European tour it was all about the MONEY.

The NFL, MLB, NHL were also once tax exempt but because of public outcry they relinquished their tax exemption status. These sports league now pay taxes on the billions in revenues they receive.
The PGA also makes billions in revenues mainly from the big TV networks and just recently announced they're making their purse payouts even bigger.
Why is golf the only professional sports league that gets a free pass on paying taxes. These other leagues pay taxes and also donate to charities so don't give me that excuse.
Did you know that with the PGA's tax free revenue they're investing billions in China for a development tour. So they pay no taxes but send money to China so those citizens can play golf. How about with that tax free money you invest in AMERICANS BEFORE CHINA.

It gets better, this monopoly and that is what it is are banning independent contractors from ever playing in the PGA again. WOW thats some not for profit you got there, sounds more like the Mafia.

The individual players paying taxes is a different story than the multi billion dollar PGA paying taxes. This is not a children hospital not for profit we are talking about like St. Jude. This is just a bunch of already rich men getting even richer by hitting a little white ball because of a tax exemption. The PGA could never have these multi million dollar payouts if it wasn't for being propped up by the US government tax exemption.

There is no reason just like all the other billion dollar sports leagues that the PGA shouldn't be paying taxes.

People are struggling to pay for gas and food these days both which are taxed want to defend the greedy PGA Tour from paying taxes. Amazing!

Criticizing these players for choosing their employment is basically saying they should have no choice in a capitalist society to accept a job paying more.

Forget the moral aspect. We have very deep ties with Saudi Arabia and are proud of it. Just ask the State Department…

U.S. Relations With Saudi Arabia - United States Department of State

U.S.-SAUDI ARABIA RELATIONS

Following recognition in 1931, the United States and Saudi Arabia established full diplomatic relations, with exchange of credentials and appointment of the first U.S. ambassador (initially resident in Cairo) , in 1940. Saudi Arabia’s unique role in the Arab and Islamic worlds, its holding of the world’s second largest reserves of oil, and its strategic location all play a role in the long-standing bilateral relationship between the Kingdom and the United States. The United States and Saudi Arabia have a common interest in preserving the stability, security, and prosperity of the Gulf region and consult closely on a wide range of regional and global issues. Saudi Arabia plays an important role in working toward a peaceful and prosperous future for the region and is a strong partner in security and counterterrorism efforts and in military, diplomatic, and financial cooperation. Its forces work closely with U.S. military and law enforcement bodies to safeguard both countries’ national security interests. The United States and Saudi Arabia also enjoy robust cultural and educational ties with tens of thousands of Saudi students studying in U.S. colleges and universities and scores of educational and cultural exchange visitors each year. The United States also provides promising youth and emerging Saudi leaders the opportunity to experience the United States and its institutions through the International Visitor Leadership Program and various other exchange programs.

Such a point-on commentary by you. Thanks.

They don't need one. Players are under contract to play PGA Tour events, and abide by their rules. If they choose to NOT abide by the rules, they are free to play wherever they want. But...the penalty for violating the previously-agreed-to rules is cancellation of their PGA privileges. There were no surprises here. No one was sandbagged, or had their options restricted. Decisions come with consequences. Many times, the consequences are unknown at the time a decision is made. Not in this case, though. Players knew full well that bolting to the LIV Tour would result in them losing their PGA privileges. The real issue is the whiners wanted to have their cake, and eat it too.

Personally, I think the PGA should toughen up the consequences and issue a five year suspension for any member who bolts to the competing tour. That might make players think long and hard about chasing the short term gain.