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Golfingnut 04-01-2014 08:49 AM

I am passionate about healthcare for all for the love of my fellow man. If I have to give up a little to help someone else a lot. I'm in. Praise Jesus for the Sermon on the Mount. If I am wrong, then to me that means I have more heart than brains. HUMMMMMM, that's OK with me also.

nitehawk 04-01-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 854626)
I am passionate about healthcare for all for the love of my fellow man. If I have to give up a little to help someone else a lot. I'm in. Praise Jesus for the Sermon on the Mount. If I am wrong, then to me that means I have more heart than brains. HUMMMMMM, that's OK with me also.

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DianeM 04-01-2014 08:56 AM

I find these postings offensive. Where is a Moderator when you need one. Jesus had nothing to do with the ACA.

Abby10 04-01-2014 08:57 AM

As a healthcare worker on the front lines, I need to weigh in here with a couple of real life examples. Sorry in advance that this will be lengthy.

Scenario #1 - I'm in the ER with my husband as he is writhing in pain from a kidney stone. Because there is only a curtain dividing us from the next patient I can hear the entire conversation as a young man tells the nurse that he is unemployed and just got insurance through ACA so he figured he would come to the ER to get some things "checked out". One was a problem that he had been having with his finger for months and the other was a bulge in his lower abdominal area which he wanted to get looked at as he thought it might be a hernia. Obviously, neither of these was worthy of an ER visit. I think you will be seeing much more of this, not less. Too many people are just ignorant of the need to have a primary care doctor or just too lazy to get one, therefore I see the ER problem as one that will continue and probably get worse.

Scenario #2 - My brother just contracted a rare form of cancer and has been receiving treatment at a cancer center. He has been relaying to me heartwrenching stories about other patients there who have lost their health insurance because it has been deemed by the ACA as "unacceptable insurance". Here they are in the middle of chemotherapy treatments having to scramble to get new insurance. Doesn't seem very compassionate to me!

In the state which I currently reside, residents who are poor are able to apply for both federal help through Medicaid and state health insurance programs which are excellent in what they provide, including complete coverage for children. As far as our young people are concerned (26 & up), the reason most of them need government intervention for healthcare is because THEY DON'T HAVE JOBS!! Let's fix the real problem here people! I know some young entrepreneurs who have their own businesses that have switched from the insurance they previously had (because it was deemed unacceptable) to an ACA plan and are very upset because the cost is so much more. I might add that they were previously HUGE ACA supporters.

So, in the words of the late, great Paul Harvey........"and now you know the rest of the story".

Golfingnut, I truly hope for the sake of this great country that what you say and believe comes true, but what I have seen so far in my practice and experience is not proving to be the case thus far.

billethkid 04-01-2014 09:02 AM

For those that it really help, the truly uninsured or un-insure able, that is great.

That group is not what is represented by the 6 million number being advertised........and we won't know what the real number for that needy, intended group is until the numbers by category are officially released.
Way to controversial to reach ANY conclusions at this stage.

I am afraid this is just another case of the old adage that figures don't lie but liars figure.......only time will tell

janmcn 04-01-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigC (Post 854606)
I'm not sure if this post is made in jest. Quoting a 2012 poll on ACA just goes to show how illiterate the average American really is. They don't read and most don't even listen to news on television. As usual, they don't know much of anything about anything until it hurts them personally. As the current polling shows, it now is beginning to hurt. March 6, 2014 Gallup polling shows the number of Americans disapproving to be 55% and 40% approving. In a way watching this disaster unfold has been quite comical. Listening to the excuses reminds me of the days of Baghdad Bob.

Number of Americans Saying ACA Has Hurt Them Inches Up


The poll I was mentioning was called the election where the choice was clear; repeal the Affordable Care Act or keep it. The results were overwhelmingly in favor of keeping it. The majority rules in our democratic form of government.

jebartle 04-01-2014 09:57 AM

Ahhh! buggyone so true
 
You have a way of making the truth so easy to understand!


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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 854564)
Do I hear the mating sound of a vulpine creature? I doubt if vulpine creatures would have been in favor of Social Security or Medicare at their inception but now fight tooth and nail for every penny of their benefit.


Irishmen 04-01-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 854652)
The poll I was mentioning was called the election where the choice was clear; repeal the Affordable Care Act or keep it. The results were overwhelmingly in favor of keeping it. The majority rules in our democratic form of government.

Now that we know what's in it after it passes and after all the lies and deception you darn right majority gonna rule.

tippyclubb 04-01-2014 10:08 AM

For us The AFFORADABLE Care act is anything but that. Our health insurance through work has gone up $5,000 a year in the last 2 years. I have been on the Obama market place to check out prices and if you do not qualify for the subsidy rates are extremely expensive. Deductibles ranging from 12-20 thousand dollars and this is affordable?

That's all I can say about this. My blood pressure is rising.

dewilson58 04-01-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tippyclubb (Post 854679)
For us The AFFORADABLE Care act is anything but that. Our health insurance through work has gone up $5,000 a year in the last 2 years. I have been on the Obama market place to check out prices and if you do not qualify for the subsidy rates are extremely expensive. Deductibles ranging from 12-20 thousand dollars and this is affordable?

That's all I can say about this. My blood pressure is rising.


Yep Yep Yep.

Did the 5pm town square whistle blow yet??

billethkid 04-01-2014 10:35 AM

there are very many folks who are touting what a good deal the ACA is and I would venture to say of those here on this forum or friends or family....not one are currently affected by the act.

SO? Well as the effects of the act are fully implemented....assuming the rules don't continue to move around or slide out in time or what ever....as the full impact of implementation , now 2015 and beyond (maybe!) and your health care availability and your health care costs escalate and you cannot go to the doctors you want and your coverages change as a result of rising costs and your doctor no longer takes your insurance.......until some or all of these hit home there is nothing personally invested or experienced. However when that does happen there will be a very different tune.....and I am sure by then it will be called something else.

To each his own....I am just very happy I am in the 90% who were and continue to be happy with what we have and had prior to ACA.....at least until we are affected as well.....and we will be!

chachacha 04-01-2014 10:39 AM

i don't believe the federal govt has the constitutional right to force citizens to purchase anything....they only got this passed by calling it a TAX! if you don't care that your rights are being eroded by big govt, by all means celebrate the humanity! but humanity has been cared for by churches and charity for generations, with the best medical care in the world, without the intrusion of taxes and fees and wealth distribution.

dewilson58 04-01-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 854688)
i don't believe the federal govt has the constitutional right to force citizens to purchase anything....they only got this passed by calling it a TAX! if you don't care that your rights are being eroded by big govt, by all means celebrate the humanity! but humanity has been cared for by churches and charity for generations, with the best medical care in the world, without the intrusion of taxes and fees and wealth distribution.

Nicely said.

Not sure why anyone would celebrate 6 million in 6 months when it is mandatory.

:throwtomatoes::throwtomatoes::throwtomatoes:

jebartle 04-01-2014 10:47 AM

Affordable Care Act
 
There will always be that element that will take advantage of the system BUT for those that could not get insurance because of a pre-existing condition we should show empathy...I've never understood the attitude of "hooray for me and to hell with you"....I can only hope that ACT will be the answer to their prayers..When it comes to our healthcare, no one should be turned away!

ilovetv 04-01-2014 10:57 AM

It's a nice idea, but not when it kills jobs and the premise this nation was founded on: Self-Employed, Sole Proprietor, Business Owner.

Watch this and tell us how these results are helping people to stay in the workforce and earning enough to pay the taxes, SS and medicare taxes to pay for everything being hot-wired in by the glad-handing clowns in Washington:

Small business employees react to life changes necessitated by Affordable Care Act | Health - WTAE Home


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