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manaboutown 10-25-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2021135)
New Mexico is quite a beautiful state with a lot of gorgeous scenery. I hope the state can retain the movie industry there.

I have been in New Mexico since early October for the Balloon Fiesta and other reasons and leaving today. Surprisingly not one person here has mentioned this incident to me as other pressing matters largely centered around healthcare difficulties due to the pandemic and crime have taken center stage.

Two Bills 10-25-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2021127)
Lots of people in this thread who should never be allowed near a firearm.

........and even more not allowed near a jury room!

Woodbear 10-25-2021 07:44 AM

Given the era of the movie, Baldwin would have a single action revolver in his hand. So not only did he pull the trigger, he would have cocked the hammer (thereby rotating the cylinder) to set the gun up to fire. Makes you wonder how many live rounds were in that gun.

manaboutown 10-25-2021 08:02 AM

More is being revealed.

Alec Baldwin accidental shooting details emerge offering look at Halyna Hutchins''' final moments | Fox News

JMintzer 10-25-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2021232)

From the link:

"While demonstrating, the firearm went off."

No, Mr Baldwin pulled the trigger... The firearm did exactly what it was designed to do...

Joe C. 10-25-2021 09:09 AM

Alec is an anti second amendment nut. And he doesn't know crap about firearms. He should have checked the firearm before using it.
There are strict rules about gun handling, and evidently, he didn't follow them.
A gun is always loaded.
Never point a gun at anybody unless you intend to shoot them.
Never put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot. etc...etc...etc.

PugMom 10-25-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 2020697)
Very, very tragic. In an industry that constantly decries gun violence, why do they use them in movies? Double standard much?

:clap2::clap2::bigbow:

Lindsyburnsy 10-25-2021 09:24 AM

Reports are that he was rehearsing a scene where he points the gun directly at the camera. That is probably the vicinity of the cinematographer.
Let’s wait to hear about the investigation. Anything is possible.
QUOTE=Woodbear;2020284]Why were non-actors shot? Why was he pointing a gun at a non-actor and pulling the trigger? Even the blanks will have some report for which you would not want to point it at someone.[/QUOTE]

Wyseguy 10-25-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by christine J Toft (Post 2020320)
Lee was shot with a real bullet. Same thing?

Was it a real bullet?. I thought it was a squib load. Never a real bullet. First they used a prop bullet with the powder removed and the primer intact. When the then placed a blank in (primer, powder but no bullet) it was enough to force out the slug inside the barrel. That is what I recall. Could be wrong.

Taltarzac725 10-25-2021 09:55 AM

‘I don’t hold Alec Baldwin responsible,’ says father of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins - syracuse.com

This has more information.

JMintzer 10-25-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2021291)
Was it a real bullet?. I thought it was a squib load. Never a real bullet. First they used a prop bullet with the powder removed and the primer intact. When the then placed a blank in (primer, powder but no bullet) it was enough to force out the slug inside the barrel. That is what I recall. Could be wrong.

Kinda' correct... From the official report:

"Hollowed-out cartridges are often used to film close-ups of a gun being loaded; the “dummy” cartridges are then supposed to be removed and replaced with blanks before being fired. The police investigation into Lee’s death concluded that a tip of one of the cartridge’s bullets broke off from the cartridge and lodged in the gun, then fired at Lee along with the blank."

Boston-Sean 10-25-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2021298)
Kinda' correct... From the official report:

"Hollowed-out cartridges are often used to film close-ups of a gun being loaded; the “dummy” cartridges are then supposed to be removed and replaced with blanks before being fired. The police investigation into Lee’s death concluded that a tip of one of the cartridge’s bullets broke off from the cartridge and lodged in the gun, then fired at Lee along with the blank."


This happened a few days ago. I doubt there already is an "Official Report".

Do you have a link?

JMintzer 10-25-2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2021398)
This happened a few days ago. I doubt there already is an "Official Report".

Do you have a link?

I was commenting on a reference to Brandon Lee's death, back in 1993...

tvbound 10-26-2021 06:40 AM

So many failures in procedures and common sense occurred, for this to ever have happened. I hope a detailed investigation, identifies each and every one of them. I also hope that whomever brought a live round on to the set in the first place, is also identified and this isn't an instance of a disgruntled employee/ex-employee, purposely sneaking in a live round in the hopes that there would just be a 'close-call.' It's also obvious that there's a deep hatred for Baldwin, because of his excellent and dead-on impersonations. I have personally disliked him, since his abhorrent voice mail to his own 11 year old daughter was made public.

Boston-Sean 10-26-2021 07:08 AM

An attorney who specializes in self defense/firearms law weighs in and it's not good news for Alec Baldwin.

Clearly a case of Felony Involuntary Manslaughter based on New Mexico law. And it gets worse for Baldwin. The New Mexico Supreme Court ruling on a similar case specifically stated that who loaded the gun is not relevant. Only that the defendant handled it improperly.

Of course we could have a Soros prosecutor in New Mexico and Baldwin never gets charged.

Legal Analysis: Alec Baldwin Situation Beginning to Look a Lot Like Manslaughter - YouTube


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