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billethkid 12-04-2021 09:07 AM

Was it reported anywhere regarding whether he pulled the hammer back?
Necessary first step, by the shooter, to firing a single action revolver.

As this case unfolds the old CYA by the rich and famous comes into play....no matter how ridiculous or stupid it may sound.

dewilson58 12-04-2021 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2036499)
Was it reported anywhere regarding whether he pulled the hammer back? Necessary first step, by the shooter, to firing a single action revolver.

He admits with George, he pulled back the hammer & let the hammer go.

He states, someone is responsible, but it is not him. :ohdear:

manaboutown 12-04-2021 09:27 AM

This is no surprise to me. New Mexico District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies Issues Statement On ‘Rust’ Film Shooting

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-04-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2036476)
I was keeping an open mind on this situation until I heard Alec Baldwin claim that he never pulled the trigger. Guns don’t go off on their own. Some guns may fire if dropped but this was obviously not the case here.
This gun is a single action revolver. It would take two actions to fire it. Bald wins assertion that he didn’t pull the trigger is preposterous. Was he on drugs or is he suffering from some sort of mental illness that would prevent him from realizing that he pulled the trigger?

Having said all that, the first question that I think needs to be asked is; Why were there live rounds on the set of this movie to begin with? Then I would ask why are the firing pins in these guns not removed? Can they not dub the sound of the gun firing later on?

Now I'm reading that Baldwin is stating that he pulled the hammer back as instructed. It might be possible that he didn't pull it back far enough and it slipped and the pin hit the round. But the fact that he says that he didn't realize that the gun went off is absurd. When a Colt .45 goes off in your hand to know it. And it's very different when it goes off with a live round as opposed to a blank. Even if Baldwin is not familiar with guns and hasn't fired live rounds, he's fired plenty of blanks in his career. He certainly would have felt a big difference.

Caymus 12-04-2021 04:50 PM

What was he hoping to accomplish with the interview? The DA will determine what happens next. It would be best to remain quiet. On another note, I wonder if he has insurance for the potential civil lawsuits. Bill Cosby's insurance paid for much of his.

NoMoSno 12-04-2021 08:38 PM

Interesting video
Alec Baldwin is WRONG - YouTube

JMintzer 12-04-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2036571)
Having said all that, the first question that I think needs to be asked is; Why were there live rounds on the set of this movie to begin with? Then I would ask why are the firing pins in these guns not removed? Can they not dub the sound of the gun firing later on?

Now I'm reading that Baldwin is stating that he pulled the hammer back as instructed. It might be possible that he didn't pull it back far enough and it slipped and the pin hit the round. But the fact that he says that he didn't realize that the gun went off is absurd. When a Colt .45 goes off in your hand to know it. And it's very different when it goes off with a live round as opposed to a blank. Even if Baldwin is not familiar with guns and hasn't fired live rounds, he's fired plenty of blanks in his career. He certainly would have felt a big difference.

To your first question, apparently they were goofing around, having target practice when shooting was done for the day...

To your second question, the firing pins weren't removed because they wanted the guns to fire blanks.

To your third question, it's because they want the muzzle flash and the gunpowder smoke...

The rest of Baldwin's statement is hogwash...

JMintzer 12-04-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2036688)

Prezactly!

tophcfa 12-04-2021 11:48 PM

Regardless of what a court finds, by saying he feels no guilt after killing a co-worker, he sunk himself in the court of public opinion. What a heartless A HOLE!

New Englander 12-05-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2036732)
Regardless of what a court finds, by saying he feels no guilt after killing a co-worker, he sunk himself in the court of public opinion. What a heartless A HOLE!

:agree:

fdpaq0580 12-05-2021 09:59 PM

Not defending Baldwin, but
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2036732)
Regardless of what a court finds, by saying he feels no guilt after killing a co-worker, he sunk himself in the court of public opinion. What a heartless A HOLE!

Heartless? Probably, but I don't know him so I can't comment.
Saying one "feels no guilt" just means he doesn't feel he intentionally meant to cause harm to anyone. It does not specifically mean he may not feel sorrow, anger, frustration, loss, or any number of things that one feels when a tragedy happens. Many people, if not most, often feel they are to blame, even if they are not. They assume the roll of martyr. "Oh, if only I would or would not have...."
And, I am pretty sure his attorney made sure he would NOT assume any blame since even the most inept prosecutors would smell blood and go for it.
As I said earlier on, there will, I am certain, be a movie "based on" this incident in the not too distant future.
As I am sure some movie producer must have said, "Never let a good tragedy go to waste".

billethkid 12-06-2021 09:07 AM

There are no actions/words or deeds that are not lawyer orchestrated CYA!!

manaboutown 12-06-2021 01:33 PM

Alec Baldwin’s ‘misguided’ interview slammed by '''Rust''' gaffer'''s attorney: '''An attempt to sway public opinion''' | Fox News

Boston-Sean 12-11-2021 01:13 PM

Baldwin isn't getting charged
 
Last night there was a 2 hour network show (20/20??) on the Rust movie shooting. It included a lot of reporting about a camera operator who was killed 7 years ago in Georgia when she was hit by a train while filming a movie. The director in that case spent 2 years in jail.

The reason I say that Baldwin won't be charged is what the DA had to say on the show last night. Multiple times she said her investigation was focused on who put the live round in the gun. Nothing to say about Baldwins claim that he didn't pull the trigger.

If she was asked about that it got edited out but I suspect they didn't even bother to ask her about Baldwin. In a 2 hour show there was less than 1 minute where a firearms expert discussed what Baldwin claimed happened. His conclusion after demonstrating how a single action revolver works was that in theory it was possible for Baldwin to be correct but that it would take a seriously defective firearm. A properly functioning gun could not go off the way Baldwin described. They are specifically designed not to go off like that.

So Baldwin has the media and the DA looking out for him. He walks.

Taltarzac725 12-11-2021 10:22 PM

They probably would check the actual firearm in this tragedy to see how this actually happened.

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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2038709)
Last night there was a 2 hour network show (20/20??) on the Rust movie shooting. It included a lot of reporting about a camera operator who was killed 7 years ago in Georgia when she was hit by a train while filming a movie. The director in that case spent 2 years in jail.

The reason I say that Baldwin won't be charged is what the Left wing DA had to say on the show last night. Multiple times she said her investigation was focused on who put the live round in the gun. Nothing to say about Baldwins claim that he didn't pull the trigger.

If she was asked about that it got edited out but I suspect they didn't even bother to ask her about Baldwin. In a 2 hour show there was less than 1 minute where a firearms expert discussed what Baldwin claimed happened. His conclusion after demonstrating how a single action revolver works was that in theory it was possible for Baldwin to be correct but that it would take a seriously defective firearm. A properly functioning gun could not go off the way Baldwin described. They are specifically designed not to go off like that.

So Baldwin has the media and the DA looking out for him. He walks.



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