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Boston-Sean 12-12-2021 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2038817)
They probably would check the actual firearm in this tragedy to see how this actually happened.

Yes, they are. The gun was sent to the FBI for testing.

When they get the results of the testing it will still be the DA' s decision on whether to charge or not.

jimbomaybe 12-12-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2038709)
Last night there was a 2 hour network show (20/20??) on the Rust movie shooting. It included a lot of reporting about a camera operator who was killed 7 years ago in Georgia when she was hit by a train while filming a movie. The director in that case spent 2 years in jail.

The reason I say that Baldwin won't be charged is what the DA had to say on the show last night. Multiple times she said her investigation was focused on who put the live round in the gun. Nothing to say about Baldwins claim that he didn't pull the trigger.

If she was asked about that it got edited out but I suspect they didn't even bother to ask her about Baldwin. In a 2 hour show there was less than 1 minute where a firearms expert discussed what Baldwin claimed happened. His conclusion after demonstrating how a single action revolver works was that in theory it was possible for Baldwin to be correct but that it would take a seriously defective firearm. A properly functioning gun could not go off the way Baldwin described. They are specifically designed not to go off like that.

So Baldwin has the media and the DA looking out for him. He walks.

Mr. Baldwin didn't know what he was doing when handling a dangerous weapon, it may be comfortable for him to absolve himself of any blame , the courts may see things differently, as to the possibilities of what can happen with that antique weapon,,
Hammer Positions - Colt Army Revolver - Bev Fitchett's Guns

karostay 12-12-2021 10:34 AM

In Hollywood land once the dust has settled this is going to make a great movie writing the script in the media
Academy award waiting in the wings
Wonder if that was the intentions all along who done it !

manaboutown 12-12-2021 11:35 AM

Alec Baldwin Fatal Shooting: Crew Member Ordered To Meeting With State Officials – Deadline

ROCKMUP 12-12-2021 12:44 PM

He should have been arrested and charged with manslaughter. You want to see some privilege ? There it is.

manaboutown 12-16-2021 06:35 PM

Alec Baldwin's cell phone requested by police in search warrant

DAVES 12-16-2021 07:18 PM

I will not be on the jury. From my reading Baldwin CLAIMS he pulled back the hammer and the gun went off. With that particular gun, that is impossible. He had to have pulled the trigger. The gun has been impounded to be certain it is working properly.

Due to his fame, Baldwin will likely get off easy. A woman is DEAD and a guy was wounded. Basic gun safety you never point a gun at anyone you are not intending to shoot. You assume that every gun is loaded.

Love2Swim 12-17-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2040399)
I will not be on the jury. From my reading Baldwin CLAIMS he pulled back the hammer and the gun went off. With that particular gun, that is impossible. He had to have pulled the trigger. The gun has been impounded to be certain it is working properly.

Due to his fame, Baldwin will likely get off easy. A woman is DEAD and a guy was wounded. Basic gun safety you never point a gun at anyone you are not intending to shoot. You assume that every gun is loaded.

Legal experts say it is unlikely Baldwin will face criminal charges. To do so, it would be necessary to prove he intentionally killed the woman, which he clearly didn't. There is a remote chance he could be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, which would leave him paying a fine. But even that is unlikely, as fatal on-set shootings with prop guns have historically been ruled as accidents. Civil liabilities are a different story - was the protocol in handling and loading the gun breached and who was liable for what; was he liable since he was the producer, etc. A lot of that may depend on how the work contracts were written up. In any event, it doesn't appear there is a criminal case here, but probably negligence with civil damages.

Gulfcoast 12-17-2021 10:01 AM

Baldwin is an idiot but there is no way that he did this intentionally. He probably should be held personally liable as a producer in civil court but I'm not seeing him charged criminally.

Kenswing 12-17-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 2040583)
Baldwin is an idiot but there is no way that he did this intentionally. He probably should be held personally liable as a producer in civil court but I'm not seeing him charged criminally.

Look up the definition of manslaughter or negligent homicide. You might change your mind.

manaboutown 01-08-2022 03:31 PM

New Mexico Detectives Unable to Touch Hamptons-Based Baldwin Are Now Working with His Local Sheriff's Department

Gulfcoast 01-22-2022 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2040634)
Look up the definition of manslaughter or negligent homicide. You might change your mind.

He's such a jerk that I would not be sad seeing him thrown in jail.

unialimon 02-15-2022 05:13 PM

He's Toast.

Taltarzac725 02-15-2022 07:50 PM

It will probably be settled out- of- court and you will hear little about it after that. Halyna Hutchins' family sues Alec Baldwin and 'Rust' producers : NPR

Spalumbos62 02-16-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2021040)
Sorry but you have no idea how productions work. There is no actor who would check the gun. They have people for that. He is not even a grain of sand size responsible. It’s the 1st AD and the Armorer. PERIOD.

I agree 100%...Alec is not the responsible party here. Of course, yes, he did the firing...but just bc so many of you dislike him for all the different characters he has played over his years,should not affect your thought process.
Can we change this up a tad...let's say we have this very same senerio, all the same "handoff" of the gun to the actor...but the actor was Tom Hanks, or even Julia Roberts .....would you all still be spewing the same rhetoric that you are?
I honestly don't think you would. Take a moment and think about it.


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