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Mrprez 02-18-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2062698)
:1rotfl: Fox is about as far away from fair and balanced as a channel could get. One could hardly even call it "news".

Where do you get your news?

manaboutown 02-18-2022 09:49 AM

Attorney presentation with video reconstruction of shooting in Hutchins lawsuit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhrvSMNq6bA

Taltarzac725 02-18-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2062797)
Attorney presentation with video reconstruction of shooting in Hutchins lawsuit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhrvSMNq6bA

“This Cannot Be Right”: How the Gun in Alec Baldwin’s Hands Turned the ‘Rust’ Set Deadly | Vanity Fair

A much more objective and thorough discussion than some lawyers trying to present their clients' case.

Caymus 02-18-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2062698)
:1rotfl: Fox is about as far away from fair and balanced as a channel could get. One could hardly even call it "news".


You misspelled CNN.

manaboutown 02-18-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2062852)
“This Cannot Be Right”: How the Gun in Alec Baldwin’s Hands Turned the ‘Rust’ Set Deadly | Vanity Fair

A much more objective and thorough discussion than some lawyers trying to present their clients' case.

Vanity Fair? Surely you jest! It should be named Vanity Fake! lol

Soxman 02-18-2022 02:20 PM

That is the most ridiculous argument you could possibly use. It is 100% his responsibility. ANYONE who is handling a weapon is supposed to make sure it is Safe. If you do NOT know how to do this, then Learn Before you take control of a weapon.

Taltarzac725 02-18-2022 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Soxman (Post 2062947)
That is the most ridiculous argument you could possibly use. It is 100% his responsibility. ANYONE who is handling a weapon is supposed to make sure it is Safe. If you do NOT know how to do this, then Learn Before you take control of a weapon.

This is on a movie set. Others whose job is secure the weapons on the MOVIE SET made obvious mistakes.

PugMom 02-18-2022 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2062388)
Probably. He was on a movie set and assumed the workers were doing their assigned jobs. I cannot see how that would amount to negligent homicide in a criminal case. If he were at his house and pointed a gun he thought was unloaded at a guest and it turned out to be loaded and went off and killed the guest then that would probably be criminal negligence.

yeah, this is a tough one. while i TRULY feel bad for him (I'm sure he didn't want to kill anyone) I'm seeing this stuff in the news about corners cut, and him not want to participate in a sort of arms training. i'd never point a gun @ someone i didnt intend to hit. maybe he needed to learn the serious respect a firearm needed, even if he thought it was unloaded. either way, he's screwed

manaboutown 02-18-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2062979)
This is on a movie set. Others whose job is secure the weapons on the MOVIE SET made obvious mistakes.

Alec's killing her may have occurred on a movie set but that does not excuse what happened.

Alec Baldwin did not check to see if the gun was loaded. A live round was in the chamber. He deliberately pointed the loaded gun at someone. He then pulled the trigger, shooting and killing her. Alec committed a homicide.

His killing her did not occur during the filming or rehearsal of a scene where one possibly could argue the armorer and other staff could be held responsible for checking the weapon. Alec killed her on his own hook. He was fooling around with a loaded gun he had failed to check for a live round in the chamber, pointed the loaded gun at a woman, pulled its trigger, and shot the poor woman. She was not an actor designated to be shot in a scene or indeed even an actor. It seems to me his actions could constitute negligent homicide under New Mexico law.

JSR22 02-18-2022 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2062979)
This is on a movie set. Others whose job is secure the weapons on the MOVIE SET made obvious mistakes.

Totally agree. Hopefully, the charges
will be dropped.

PugMom 02-18-2022 04:21 PM

did you get to see that video re-creation made by the defense?

DAVES 02-18-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2020261)
I don't care for him but if you ask me I don't think he had any bad in his heart when he shot the gun. Temper or not, I don't think he's guilty.

What a shame for the lady who was killed and her family. I feel awful for them.

I suggest all read about the gun. It is actually an exact copy of an original. Baldwin CLAIMS he did not pull the trigger. That pistol simply will not fire unless the trigger is pulled. The first rule of gun safety is to treat every gun as if it is loaded and never point a gun at anyone UNLESS you intend to shoot them.

This COMPEX issue it truly simple Baldwin IS guilty. The only question is GUILTY of what and what is an APPROPRIATE PENALTY. She is dead no MONEY no time in jail can or will reverse that.

DAVES 02-18-2022 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2062064)
Of course his movies and TV work have nothing to do with his personality.

An interesting problem of our legal system. Do the jurors like you should not have anything to do with the CRIME or the penalty. With so much publicity is a FAIR trial even possible. The attorneys, I'm the one who got Baldwin a verdict of innocent. Or I'm the one who got him tossed in a cell till if he ever works again, he will only get SENIOR parts.

We went through the Simpson trial. Were it me, could I have gotten that legal team? At say 300 an hour, EACH, I would have quickly gone through everything I own.

JMintzer 02-18-2022 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2062979)
This is on a movie set. Others whose job is secure the weapons on the MOVIE SET made obvious mistakes.

It doesn't matter...

It the scene required him to put the gun to his own head, do you think he would have checked to see if it was safe?

If you answer yes, then he should check when pointing at anyone else.

If you said no, well... Never EVER pick up a gun...

davem4616 02-18-2022 11:22 PM

What happened on the set of Rust, was a tragedy

but life moves on

Alec Baldwin will survive...he'll eventually pay out some money, and a few attorneys will make a lot of money representing him in court

I like some of his early movies...not necessarily a fan of all he's done, nor the limited insight into his personal life / behavior that I have, only thru snippets I've read in the press, that may or may not like him, for whatever reason

...but we all have a few folks that we know, that we don't respect because of who they are, what they've done and their behavior

when all is said and done, Baldwin puts his pants on the same way we all do...he's just a Hollywood personality....whoop dee do

what happens to him, personally I don't care...I hope that he's treated fairly under the law and not given any special advantage because he's Hollywood star


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