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Taltarzac725 04-21-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2209670)
There still is hope!

“Over the last few days and in preparation for the May 3, 2023, preliminary hearing, new facts were revealed that demand further investigation and forensic analysis in the case against Alexander “Alec” Rae Baldwin, III. Consequently, we cannot proceed under the current time constraints and on the facts and evidence turned over by law enforcement in its existing form. We therefore will be dismissing the involuntary manslaughter charges against Mr. Baldwin to conduct further investigation. This decision does not absolve Mr. Baldwin of criminal culpability and charges may be refiled. Our follow-up investigation will remain active and on-going.”

Alec Baldwin ‘Rust’ Charges Dropped, But He’s Not Absolved Yet, Prosecutors Say – Deadline

What forensic analysis? It is pretty clear that the pistol was loaded with a live round and Alec Baldwin pointed it towards the victims and pulled the trigger. But he had no duty to check if the bullets were fake. That was someone else's job. And those two have faced or a facing justice.

JMintzer 04-21-2023 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2209728)
What forensic analysis? It is pretty clear that the pistol was loaded with a live round and Alec Baldwin pointed it towards the victims and pulled the trigger. But he had no duty to check if the bullets were fake. That was someone else's job. And those two have faced or a facing justice.

I disagree... If the scene called for him to put the gun to his head and pull the trigger, you'd better believe he would have checked the gun...

manaboutown 04-21-2023 03:23 PM

Bet he would have checked the revolver for live ammo if he was going to point it at his own head! Alec Baldwin'''s dropped ‘Rust’ charges do '''not absolve''' him, may be refiled: special prosecutors | Fox News

manaboutown 05-04-2023 12:24 PM

Actor Alec Baldwin Gets The Best Justice Money Can Buy

Kelevision 05-05-2023 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2209830)
Bet he would have checked the revolver for live ammo if he was going to point it at his own head! Alec Baldwin'''s dropped ‘Rust’ charges do '''not absolve''' him, may be refiled: special prosecutors | Fox News

You know Rust in back in production, right?!? Still filming. Just started back up last month.

manaboutown 06-02-2023 09:42 AM

Well it is over for now but Alec could be charged in the future.

"Special prosecutors Kari Morrissey and Jason Lewis announced the decision, stating "new facts" were revealed that required further investigation. In their motion to dismiss, the special prosecutors noted that the additional work couldn't be completed before the start of a preliminary hearing scheduled for May 3.

The case was closed in the First Judicial District Court of New Mexico, but Baldwin could potentially still face charges in the future."

'''Rust''' settlement approved in wrongful death lawsuit against Alec Baldwin | Fox News

manaboutown 09-16-2023 12:31 PM

The future is now!

Alec Baldwin loses attempt to stay a lawsuit in ‘Rust’ battle as actor may face new criminal charges | Fox News

Taltarzac725 09-16-2023 08:03 PM

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We will see what happens.

frayedends 09-17-2023 06:50 AM

Just happened upon this thread and scrolled through a few pages over the 42 pages of comments. I have to say I'm shocked by the number of people saying Alec is not culpable. First off, it was a real gun. It had real bullets. He aimed it at someone and pulled the trigger.

If I had done the same and I went to court and said, "Well the armorer at the gun store that handed it to me said it was unloaded or loaded with blanks," do you think that I would be found innocent. No, of course not. And let's not pretend Alec doesn't know anything about guns and is just an actor. He's been spouting off his anti-gun crap for years and acts like he is an authority on the subject.

All I can say to Alec, when he wants to ban guns, is, "well Alec the difference between you and I is that I have never shot and killed anyone."

wseward 09-17-2023 06:55 AM

Why was there any live ammo on a movie set

frayedends 09-17-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wseward (Post 2257835)
Why was there any live ammo on a movie set

I don't believe that's been answered. I've heard stories, but nothing confirmed.

Taltarzac725 09-17-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2257833)
Just happened upon this thread and scrolled through a few pages over the 42 pages of comments. I have to say I'm shocked by the number of people saying Alec is not culpable. First off, it was a real gun. It had real bullets. He aimed it at someone and pulled the trigger.

If I had done the same and I went to court and said, "Well the armorer at the gun store that handed it to me said it was unloaded or loaded with blanks," do you think that I would be found innocent. No, of course not. And let's not pretend Alec doesn't know anything about guns and is just an actor. He's been spouting off his anti-gun crap for years and acts like he is an authority on the subject.

All I can say to Alec, when he wants to ban guns, is, "well Alec the difference between you and I is that I have never shot and killed anyone."

Movie set where others are responsible for the safety such as the armorer. Not a firing range or something like that. Or a private residence.

manaboutown 09-17-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2257874)
Movie set where others are responsible for the safety such as the armorer. Not a firing range or something like that. Or a private residence.

That it occurred on a movie set rather than say a biker bar has nothing to do with it. And...it didn't happen during an actual 'shoot', pardon the pun. While on a break from 'shooting' Alec was messing around with a loaded gun he had negligently failed to check for live ammo, aimed it at the poor soul, pulled the trigger and killed her. Then Alec lied to the police, stating he had not pulled the trigger. The FBI crime lab found otherwise, that he had to have pulled the trigger to fire the weapon. Alec Baldwin is culpable of homicide.

JMintzer 09-17-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2257874)
Movie set where others are responsible for the safety such as the armorer. Not a firing range or something like that. Or a private residence.

Any time a gun is in your hands, YOU are responsible... PERIOD...

If the scene stated he was to put the gun to his head an play "Russian Roulette", do you think he would have depended on someone else to tell him the gun was "safe"?

But sure, keep making excuses for him...

frayedends 09-17-2023 01:30 PM

^^^^^^^^

Exactly. Any person that thinks the person with the gun is not responsible doesn't have a basic knowledge of the rules of gun safety. Treat every gun as if it is loaded. Period.


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