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JMintzer 09-28-2022 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2140704)
Assuming for the same reasons folks go to Shooters World. Still, the guns used in movies should never be used for live rounds, ever.
The only difference between the guns that fire blanks and the guns that fire real ammo is the ammo...

There is no reason EVER to have live ammo on set...

JMintzer 09-28-2022 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2140713)
A few years ago I took an advanced pistol class at Sig Sauer academy in New Hampshire taught by a guest instructor who is a former world champion. He now runs his own company and if you are a serious shooter you would recognize his name.

Anyway, in the initial safety briefing before we hit the range he told a story about a class he'd given years prior at the Sig Academy. Near the end of the day a student was having problems with his pistol so this guy lent the student his pistol to finish the day.

At the end of the day everyone cleared their pistols and the student returned the loaner to the instructor who cased it up until the next morning. That next morning the instructor stood in front of the class and before demonstrating a dry fire technique he racked the slide to show that the pistol was clear.

Except a live round ejected from the pistol.

That is a MAJOR safety violation. At first the instructor was furious at the student but it didn't take him long to place the blame where it belonged. On himself. He took possession of the pistol, it was his responsibility to know its status.

He nearly lost his teaching privileges at the academy. Probably should have.
At least he checked it before "dry firing" it...

fdpaq0580 09-28-2022 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2140827)
The only difference between the guns that fire blanks and the guns that fire real ammo is the ammo...

There is no reason EVER to have live ammo on set...
Agree! My point about "movie" guns never being used with live ammo is that, as a movie prop there is no legit reason to use it with live ammo. If live ammo is never used, the possibility of an ammo screw up is lessened. That does NOT mean that proper safety precautions don't need to be followed to the letter.

manaboutown 10-05-2022 10:26 AM
The cinematographer's family has settled its lawsuit against Baldwin and the Rust producers.

‘Rust’ Settlement: Halyna Hutchins’ Family Settles Wrongful Death Suit Over Shooting – The Hollywood Reporter

Caymus 10-05-2022 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2143532)
The cinematographer's family has settled its lawsuit against Baldwin and the Rust producers.

‘Rust’ Settlement: Halyna Hutchins’ Family Settles Wrongful Death Suit Over Shooting – The Hollywood Reporter
I find it strange that they are going to resume filming.

manaboutown 10-05-2022 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2143566)
I find it strange that they are going to resume filming.
So do I. It seems callous, especially as it is a very low budget production.

It may be all about the money - Surprise! Surprise! The notoriety of Alec killing someone on the set will substantially increase box office receipts on an otherwise blah budget oater. The huge increase in income from the killing of the lady on the set will probably more than cover the settlement costs to her family.

Caymus 10-05-2022 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2143590)
So do I. It seems callous, especially as it is a very low budget production.

It may be all about the money - Surprise! Surprise! The notoriety of Alec killing someone on the set will substantially increase box office receipts on an otherwise blah budget oater. The huge increase in income from the killing of the lady on the set will probably more than cover the settlement costs to her family.
Her husband must have received much $$$$$$. His statements from a few months ago changed 180 degrees.

Byte1 10-06-2022 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2020478)
Alec Baldwin was told gun was "cold" before fatal movie set shooting, court records show - CBS News

Some actors were in the military and have been around guns a lot and some hunt and some probably have very large gun collections.

Have no idea about Alec Baldwin though. There seem to be a lot of gross generalizations going around.

Alec Baldwin shooting: what we know so far - France 24
Ever heard the expression "ignorance is no excuse" when it comes to law?

retiredguy123 10-06-2022 01:16 PM
You may not lIke Alec Baldwin. But, it was an accident. Not a crime. Leave the guy alone. My opinion.

manaboutown 10-06-2022 01:30 PM
"At least four other lawsuits brought by crew members remain, and the state of New Mexico has granted funds to pay for possible criminal prosecutions."

From: Lawsuit settled, film may resume after Alec Baldwin shooting

Taltarzac725 10-06-2022 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2143970)
You may not lIke Alec Baldwin. But, it was an accident. Not a crime. Leave the guy alone. My opinion.
Sounds like they are going to make the movie Rust partly as a tribute to the woman who lost her life due to this accident.

manaboutown 10-06-2022 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2143978)
Sounds like they are going to make the movie Rust partly as a tribute to the woman who lost her life due to this accident.
The woman Alec shot and killed?

Some tribute! They are making the movie as it will now bring in a huge amount of money because Alec notoriously shot and killed a woman on the set. It is all about the money in Hollywood as well as a lot of other places. They still have four other civil lawsuits and possibly criminal cases brought by the state with which to deal. They will need deep pockets to handle all that.

A proper tribute would be not making the movie. She died; let the movie die.

"According to a document obtained by the Santa Fe New Mexican, the district attorney said if charges are warranted, her office plans to prosecute up to four people. She named actor and ‘Rust’ movie producer Alec Baldwin as one of the possible defendants.

“With that, in each of those charges, we will probably include some variation of our homicide statute,” Carmack-Altwies said during the meeting. "

From: State grants half of requested funding to DA for potential 'Rust' prosecutions - KOB.com

JMintzer 10-06-2022 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2143970)
You may not lIke Alec Baldwin. But, it was an accident. Not a crime. Leave the guy alone. My opinion.
No, it was negligence...

dewilson58 10-06-2022 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2140823)
Instead of laughing, prove me wrong... I'll wait...
Let me repeat

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 10-06-2022 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2144064)
Let me repeat

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Still waiting after the last time I made that request...


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