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Barefoot 01-23-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 817419)
Bare, I am afraid you are just going to have to take JB back home with you this summer.:ohdear:

I'd be surprised if Canada wants him back. He is like Rob Ford, the mayor of Toronto ... a total embarrassment to Canada! :22yikes:

I say keep Bieber in the USA and put him in the military!

twinklesweep 01-23-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 817267)
.... It is too bad the media chooses to show this side of humanity instead of the more abundant choices of those doing what is right....

To me it's a no-brainer why this is so: This is what Americans are interested in and what they buy into! I'm not saying this is true for every single American, but the media are in business to make money, and they know what sells. In reality, the public chooses and the media accommodate! And this is the level we have sunk to....

geri317 01-23-2014 08:18 PM

Spoiled brat needs to grow up but I'm afraid that's way in the future.

DougB 01-23-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by geri317 (Post 817445)
Spoiled brat needs to grow up but I'm afraid that's way in the future.

Way of the future? Do you really think this type of behavior by celebrities is something new?

Matzy 01-23-2014 08:26 PM

Hmm…. Justin Bieber is 19 years old. What did we do when we were in this age? Excuses not necessary, but it isn't the speeding what JB brought into our mind, it is what we call NEWS. Is it necessary to bring up such kind of news into the forefront and judging about what we know about we heard?
Sorry, I do not feel already so old that I can go with that and have to watch what is going on with him. It is a case for the police in Miami Dade.

Serenoa 01-23-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 817280)
The sad thing is that there is a large population of Teenage girls who grew up as childhood fans of Bieber and Miley Cyrus [ then Hannah Montana ] .

Both have evolved to become very sad examples of how to comport themselves as young " adults " . The late Amy Winehouse was another who appealed to young girls / teens . Then there is also " Lady GaGa " for them to look up to . Great examples each .

Please, Amy Winehouse was no teeny-bopper pop star. My guess is that you've never heard much, if any of her music or else you would know that. As a jazz/soul singer-songwriter she had a true, unique talent......something that Bieber and Cyrus seriously lack. It's just really sad that she couldn't overcome her demons & died so young.

DougB 01-23-2014 08:51 PM

[QUOTE The late Amy Winehouse was another who appealed to young girls / teens . Then there is also " Lady GaGa " for them to look up to . Great examples each .[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree. Kids today should have great role models like we had. You know, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Keith Moon, Jimi Hendrix. Wait, what am I saying they friggin' killed themselves also.

KayakerNC 01-24-2014 09:14 AM

THIS could explain everything.

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duffysmom 01-24-2014 09:59 AM

:1rotfl:

redwitch 01-24-2014 10:03 AM

I don't get it. Babe Ruth was an alcoholic who was known to play ball drunk. Erroll Flynn was a womanizer and heavy drinker. James Dean was killed speeding. Thomas Jefferson had a slave mistress. Elvis was a pill popping junkie. We idolize these men.

Justin Bieber is a 19 YO kid with a lot of money. Yes, he's going to make mistakes and do really, really stupid things. Show me a 19 YO who doesn't and I'll show you a 19 YO who's afraid of life. Let the kid grow up before you condemn him.

duffysmom 01-24-2014 10:05 AM

The common denominator in the lives of these tragic children is alcohol and drugs.

billethkid 01-24-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 817444)
To me it's a no-brainer why this is so: This is what Americans are interested in and what they buy into! I'm not saying this is true for every single American, but the media are in business to make money, and they know what sells. In reality, the public chooses and the media accommodate! And this is the level we have sunk to....

I completely disagree with the highlighted statement above. It would be accurate to state this is what the media is interested in and what they buy into.

The rest of America is quite normal in what it wants and it is most certainly NOT what is depicted by the very few radical celebrities and politicians that are glorified by the media.

My biggest issue, pet peeve, annoyance in life is the amount of generalizing done with isolated incidents.

The America I know and love, the 90+++%, and the Americans I know and love are not into the gutter lifestyles, the 2-5%, put disgracefully on display.

bimmertl 01-24-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 817665)
I don't get it. Babe Ruth was an alcoholic who was known to play ball drunk. Erroll Flynn was a womanizer and heavy drinker. James Dean was killed speeding. Thomas Jefferson had a slave mistress. Elvis was a pill popping junkie. We idolize these men.

Justin Bieber is a 19 YO kid with a lot of money. Yes, he's going to make mistakes and do really, really stupid things. Show me a 19 YO who doesn't and I'll show you a 19 YO who's afraid of life. Let the kid grow up before you condemn him.

Who the heck are the people who "idolize" Erroll Flynn and James Dean or even Babe Ruth?

Bieber isn't a "kid". He's over 18 so he's and adult and judging by his antics in the last couple of years, he's a loser. So he gets judged by his actions and appropriately condemned for them.

CFrance 01-24-2014 11:39 AM

Redwitch... I agree with you on one level, but at the time those people were doing such things, it wasn't widely publicized. I still think there's a lack of parenting involved when it comes to Hollywood kids and their sudden wealth.

BTK... I agree with you too on one level, but there are an awful lot of people in the grocery store checkout lane snapping up those ridiculous gossip rags. And how do you explain the instant and ongoing success of People Magazine? I think there's a section of the population we're not necessarily aware of, and they thrive on this stupid stuff.

redwitch 01-24-2014 12:50 PM

CF, won't even argue the lack of parenting but I can remember talking to OJ Simpson's mother once. She would try to ground him for some action he took and not only would the coach come and say how he needed he was (in junior high, no less) but members of the PTA would call her and so on and so forth. Hard to parent when the whole world refuses to hold your child responsible.

I'd say the bigger lack of parenting goes on by parents who let their kids worship these people rather than the Mandelas, the Mother Theresas, the scientists, teachers and neighborhood cop. I know my parents went out of their way to let me know that admiring the talent of an athlete or performer was the right thing to do but we didn't have to admire the behavior and we most certainly should not emulate these people.

I'm not condoning Bieber's behavior. It is childish, ill-advised and downright stupid but it is also understandable. The big difference between him and most of our kids at that age is that he has more money and everything he does is news, especially if he does something bad. Of course, we rarely hear of him visiting kids in the hospital just cause he happened to drive by one (and he has done this -- he gave my friend's granddaughter the shirt he was wearing).

And, yes, technically 19 is an adult. However, the brain doesn't stop growing until age 25 for most of us. So, maturity is still a few years off for him.


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