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Should I have said preacher instead of philosopher? |
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Maybe I should have written "Mother Theresa's morals are the same as Adolph Hitler's morals." Your words were "Religious freedom and its moral relativism…" You joined together a man made civil right with an odious world view and philosophy which must lead to no morality. Slow down and consider it.
There is a big difference between the Divine mandate that we love (i.e. care about) all others and the modern half baked "feeling" that each religion is as good as the next. To a believer, and indeed anyone who slows down and considers the facts that is simply not true. I note that there is no reply to the statement of Jesus. So be it. I can't persuade anyone, but I can and will pray for you. :) |
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The manner in which you write tells me how deeply and completely you believe and how pure your love ,for God and His word. That deserve respect |
Thank you for your kind words, Rubicon. :)
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I have sat in the chair of unbelief. It's usually a prerequisite before one comes to belief as we all start out as unbelievers to some extent. I am no longer sitting there because I am now a firm believer in a Creator God who desires to have a personal relationship with his creation. I've come face to face with him and have no doubt He is real and very much alive.
For those who believe we should be quiet and say nothing I have to strongly disagree. If you have any belief at all in Christ, you know his central message was "go and tell" and was one of the last things he said before he left this earth. Many of the early church went to their death "telling" and were not ashamed to do so. Many are losing their lives today in other parts of the world for doing this same thing. We don't get to heaven on warm fuzzy feelings. It's not about doing good...it's not even about being good. It's about believing in and putting our trust in the one who did the most good for all of us. To keep quiet and not say anything is akin to seeing a bridge washed out ahead on a dark night and not warning those approaching the danger that lies ahead. If you know an alternate route with a safe bridge that is sturdy with no danger of failing isn't it most loving to speak up and warn those approaching the washed out bridge? The physical is always an example of a spiritual truth. We are all traveling along a road with many obstacles and dangers. Just because it's in the spiritual realm doesn't make it any less dangerous. In fact it's much more dangerous than the physical because it has eternal consequences. So that's why I put my trust in the only one that loves me with a dying love who came to warn us about the danger and point to the bridge that he himself built for us that will never fall apart. |
We were all given the same measure of faith
and in the end it is what you do with your faith.
We are called to use all the resources God has given us and work diligently at our callings, maximizing the return for the Master while we expectantly await His return. I am amazed by the people who do not know Jesus Christ is the only way ): The wheat and the tares are being separated. |
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". . . . . I doubt it's going to reward me with eternal life if I'm good." I don't believe that either. As a Christian, I want my behaviors to be good behaviors, not because others may say they are good, but because they are simply the right thing to do. And there have been a few times when I actually accomplished that. :) Probably not nearly often enough but fortunately God has provided all of us with the opportunity for Grace. I don't deserve it, but it is there if I believe. |
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A great discussion on science's relationship to religious beliefs has turned to proselytizing. |
I have read this thread and I have picked the people I like the most. Most of those have NOT commented on this thread but a few have shown amazing strength and patience in the face of being taunted about their beliefs.
This is all new to me. I have yet to live anywhere where people were disdained for their faith. Part of our morality is based on trying to do good and avoiding bad. It keeps most of us law abiding. I always trust people with a moral compass more with my possessions and my feelings than I do people who look down on rule followers. I have to think that these attacks, and that is what they are, by people who call church goers and believers in God ignorant and arrogant may be in part due to a tiny feeling somewhere that they could be wrong and they might be missing something. Or maybe they just don't care about anyone's feelings other than their own. I don't know. But I know I feel much worse now knowing what I know about some of my fellow villagers. The Atheists and Agnostics that I know and admire do not try to hurt or criticize people who think differently than they do. |
To each his own. I don't like or dislike anyone because of their religious beliefs.
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See "Two more Frogs a comin'" |
As a recovered Cafeteria Catholic I like to keep my views to myself and think the world (and this board)would be a better place if more people did the same.
I do have a real question though, not being snarky but do you all actually quote these bible passages from memory or do you look them up each time? If it's from memory, color me impressed. (I thought I was doing great remembering SOHCAHTOA.) Isn't there a religious forum on this board? |
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....who came first the chicken or the egg.....[/QUOTE] Some think the rooster!:icon_wink: |
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I was a Catholic convert at age 18 and really was surprised to find back then that the Catholic Church didn't study the Bible, as much as many Protestants I knew did, and Catholics are not taught to interpret the bible literally which agreed what I was taught as a child in Sunday School and in Catechism Class. I get more Jeopardy questions on the Bible right than my "cradle Catholic" husband. But I am far from a scholar. To me it takes the wisdom of Solomon to figure it out. |
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