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God is everywhere.
God is not vengeful.
God is love.

:bigbow:

Amen! This is absolutely right. Won't win you brownie points here on earth but the angels in heaven are happy because you are speaking truth. It's NOT about us as we've been taught. It's all about HIM. The reason our world is so screwed up is because we don't have our priorities right. I do believe we have most certainly forgotten the very first commandment.

Einstein and Tesla have not been judged yet nor have they been resurrected yet according to the book of Revelation which is called the White Throne Judgement. Rev 20:11-15.

According to my book, the book of PattyLand, they have been judged but not resurrected. Please reference PL 27:52.

I was responding to a poster who said she went from not believing to believing. So I inquired how one would go about doing that.

She also stated that if you believe something strongly enough, you naturally want to tell people about it.

So I tied it in with North Lake Presbyterian Churchs' mission to spread the word about living a healthy lifestyle because, as they said, your body is a temple. And the article quoted them as including healthy food choices.

I can't help it if you didn't see the connection to religion. I'm sure many others did.

Absolutely, I agree.

Nope, I didn't see the connection either.....still don't. :popcorn:

We have a winner. Where do I obtain a copy of The Book of PattyLand (It should have caps shouldn't it?) ?

And I really enjoyed the comment by Rubicon, although clearly a typo:

That was laugh out loud funny. I have been claiming to be a Pastafarian, but instead now I am converting to Moron. Still can't decide whether I am going to be a Fundamentalist Moron or a Reform Moron.

Please don't grow sideburns and become cloistered.

Big Bang and the Bible
 

No need to choose. I have been a devout, life-long member of all denominations. :)

I'm going with Reform Moron, it's probably less work. I have friends who are Reform Jews or as they put it, the next best thing to not even being Jewish.

Alrighty then...I stand corrected! :icon_wink:

That would be me. How does one go from unbelieving to believing? It's really an act of God but it starts with a desire to know more about God. It's a quest to answer life's basic questions. Where did I come from? Why am I here? Where am I going when I leave here? God said in His word that those who seek him with all their heart will find Him. Along with that comes the answers to these questions. But until God touches our heart, mind and eyes we cannot really believe enough to follow Him.

Not sure about North Lake but it is good to take care of our bodies as they are the temple of God and a temple of God is to be useful for His mission. So the better we care for our bodies the longer we can be of service to do His will.

You absolutely do not have to have a desire to know more about God to go from unbelieving to believing. God can come to you. It has happened to many people when they least expected it.

At the risk of being judged as irresponsible, irreverent and of taking an important topic too lightly ....
To go from unbelieving to believing in God is much like falling in love.
It happens, you know it, and life is changed.
As CFrance said, God can come to you.

Breathtaking post, Barefoot. That is just how it happens...

Thanks for straightening that out as their were those who thought there's no connection between religion and keeping ourselves physically healthy.

You're missing the point entirely, or twisting it around to make your argument.

You're the one who's twisting and missing the point because you're carrying baggage from previous threads.

Just playing with you--seeing how many times you have to have the last word.:boxing2: The original Bible quote about the body being a temple had nothing to do with food. That was your idea.

I like that. I was about to start a new thread along those lines. But will anyone like it? I doubt it but I'll give it a try anyway. :) Stay tuned.

It requires logical thinking. If your body is a temple in a spiritual sense, then it stands to reason you need a strong physical foundation or the temple will crumble. But I wouldn't expect you to see that if you are still carrying baggage from previous threads.

BTW, you played the "last word" game once before and it's getting old.

To those who would judge they should remember "judge not and ye shall not be judged" or something close to that.

You can be a criminal, grossly overweight, alcoholic, addicted to drugs, and mean as a coot, and if your spirit is open to God, your body is a temple.

The last word game only works as long as you keep playing it. But you win. We will never agree on this issue, and I'm bowing out of the thread.

Don't gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

And by the way that is my view on the temple and God thing too.

blueash: Why do you assume it was a typo?

A re-reading of the posts generally seems to revolve around doctrine (Bible) and truth (discipline/a path to the truth via the practice of worship) And it can be concluded that the path to genuine truth/ spirituality, that epiphany moment, is created out of pain and suffering. It is something seldom felt by the care free idle rich.

Essentially a need is created deep within some and fashion how they live and why they live and how they perceive both eternities.

If I could believe in just one thing then it would be reincarnation. I've placed the order in my mind as to what how and whom I will be upon my return and admit to being egotistical and greedy....may God forgive me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLZNtetlTXY

Be gentle with others. Please.

That's an interesting comment Rubicon. I find the idea of reincarnation and karma intriguing.
Are you coming back as an early retiree to The Villages with tee times guaranteed daily? :)
I'm afraid I may come back as a feral kitten foraging for food in the Publix parking lot.

Ahhh Brenda Kay. I love you.

I do believe in the Sovereignty of God so I don't totally disagree with this statement but I was referring to Jeremiah 29:13 which says: "And you shall seek me and find me when you shall search for me with all your heart."

Obviously to even get to the point where one is searching, the Holy Spirit is doing the prompting. Until then, we do not have a desire to do so. So it all starts with God in the first place.

And the first thing that will be done by God is a good cleaning. He loves you too much to leave you in this condition. Then you will be useful to others, most likely those who are where you once were.

Hi Barefoot: Isn't the idea of reincarnation a cool idea. If I have earned enough points perhaps I can come back as a handsome rich and famous sports figure..maybe a matinee idol. Do I want brown eyes again or blue? But then like you I far that perhaps I probably will show up as a clump of dust under someone's bed and worst yet under the bed of a matinee idol.:D

My mother was a very strict Catholic said her rosary every night. She believed in karma. Her favorite saw was "don't spit at the heavens because they will spit back at you".

They say we keep coming across the same souls. Maybe your karma will be that one of your rescued pets will be a person and save you from the parking lot.

Am I reading this very long thread correctly to understand some posters believe the Earth is less than 6,000 years old; evolution is a myth ; and that fossil records cannot be believed?

Check out the Creation Museum in Kentucky (naturally) for their non-scientific beliefs that even show modern looking "Garden of Eden" people romping with dinosaurs. Maybe it was Fred Flintstone and Dino?

Yes!
 

I have strong Christian friends of mine, who, when I said it was warmer 500,000 years ago than now (as we were discussing the hoax of "global warming" in today's environment), were incredulous and quickly explained to me that the earth was only somewhere between 8 and 10,000 years old. When I brought up the science of carbon dating they said that they chose to believe what was in the Bible. We simply agreed to disagree. Other than that they are both very involved people and "normal" in all other seeming ways, so one's belief can indeed be a strange bed partner. While they know what is right for them, I know what is right for me.

New comments from Pope Francis on this topic:
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand' - Europe - World - The Independent

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Posting a quote from the Pope is not being un-gentle.