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Patty55 09-27-2014 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 944729)
Better food for thought:
Ever wonder how they knew there would be people like Hawkins and warned us against them.


Psalms 14:1

King James Version of Psalms 14:1.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
OMG, I think this is the first time I have ever heard Hawking described as a "FOOL".

CFrance 09-27-2014 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 944669)
It has been suggested more than once on TOTV that it's possible to become faithful. I'm not sure I know the right way to say it because I don't remember the exact words. It was said that there's a certain way to go about it but not with intellect. You have to be open to it in some way. So I think if people are suggesting that it's possible, I would like to know how it's done.

It has been done without someone being open to it. Take a look at Saul, for one. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+9



I believe someone said on one of the religious threads, "If you don't like the topic of religion, you don't have to read it. You can just pass it up." If you don't read something it can't be shoved down your throat. But it seems like there's more to it than that. They actually want to join in and trash the topic. In other words, if they don't like the subject of health, they don't want anyone else to have it either. So they try to destroy the thread and/or get it shut down. Why can't they just pass it by? Are you suggesting that they can't help themselves?

I came on this thread to read about religion, not about FOOD or to receive another lecture about how to eat. Sure enough... another lecture about FOOD. I refuse to not read a thread because it might go off topic, esp. into one I'm tired of hearing about. I have every right to object to that.




The lecturer? Do you think this thread is lecturing about religion? And so what if it is, you don't have to be here if you don't want to. I wouldn't mind if there would be a new thread on religion every day. I wouldn't mind if they started a separate board for religion, and I'm not a religious person. In no way would I ever accuse them of forcing religion down my throat. If I were to lose interest in it, I could just stop reading. Why don't you do the same with whatever displeases you?


No, this is a debate about religion. Not food and how to eat! The body being a temple, in religious sense, has nothing to do with what to eat.


Please stop twisting subjects people are posting about out of context in order to insert your favorite subject into every thread.

onslowe 09-27-2014 04:36 PM
Excellent post, CF France. Truthful and precise. :)

dbussone 09-27-2014 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 944729)
Better food for thought:
Ever wonder how they knew there would be people like Hawkins and warned us against them.


Psalms 14:1

King James Version of Psalms 14:1.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Not better. The Best food for thought.

quirky3 09-27-2014 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 944729)
Better food for thought:
Ever wonder how they knew there would be people like Hawkins and warned us against them.
Fyi, Stephen Hawking is a lifetime member if the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, a scientific academy of the Vatican.

Here is a quote from the then-Pope (Pope Benedict XVI) in November 2012, regarding the Pontifical Academy of Sciences:

"Dialogue and cooperation between faith and science are urgently needed for building a culture that respects people and the planet...Without faith and science informing each other "the great questions of humanity leave the domain of reason and truth, and are abandoned to the irrational, to myth, or to indifference, with great damage to humanity itself, to world peace and to our ultimate destiny."

dbussone 09-27-2014 04:45 PM
Please don't highlight in yellow. I (and I'm sure others) cannot read it. Thanks.

Polar Bear 09-27-2014 04:46 PM
Big Bang and the Bible
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 944713)
If you don't like the subject of health........... If you don't like the subject of religion don't read it...

I basically agree with this principle. The only problem with the if-you-don't-like-the-topic-then-don't-read-it approach is that some posters will try to turn any topic into a discussion of their pet topic.

KayakerNC 09-27-2014 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 944747)


No, this is a debate about religion. Not food and how to eat! The body being a temple, in religious sense, has nothing to do with what to eat.


Please stop twisting subjects people are posting about out of context in order to insert your favorite subject into every thread.
:agree: Thanks for saying it.

graciegirl 09-27-2014 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 944775)
I basically agree with this principle. The only problem with the if-you-don't-like-the-topic-then-don't-read-it approach is that some posters will try to turn any topic into a discussion of their pet topic.

OHHHH yes.

KeepingItReal 09-27-2014 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 944773)
Fyi, Stephen Hawking is a lifetime member if the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, a scientific academy of the Vatican.

Here is a quote from the then-Pope (Pope Benedict XVI) in November 2012, regarding the Pontifical Academy of Sciences:

"Dialogue and cooperation between faith and science are urgently needed for building a culture that respects people and the planet...Without faith and science informing each other "the great questions of humanity leave the domain of reason and truth, and are abandoned to the irrational, to myth, or to indifference, with great damage to humanity itself, to world peace and to our ultimate destiny."


If you are saying that the Bible is not true and any pope would agree with Hawkins that there is no God then things are worse than previously thought. I do not believe any denomination should be dabbling in such things, science cannot ever explain or replace required faith to find and serve God. So many have wavered on doctrine trying to adjust to current situations but God has not and does not change. The pope then and now are just mortal men and have the same limitations and problems as any other man. They live and die just like the rest. I am not Catholic and will take my personal experience and the written word of King David, King Solomon, Moses, and the apostles inspired of God. No one needs another to intercede with God for them. We pray directly to God and we receive our answers the same way. God called preachers to preach the gospel to the lost and when they are convicted of the sin of unbelief it is between them and God from that point. Others can pray for them but they have to find him on their own.

Hawkins can believe whatever he wants as I cannot and would not try to force anything I believe upon anyone but I will explain why I believe as I do. I will not sit by and let his opinion be perceived as fact at least not for me.

Hawkins has made an ill informed statement which he cannot prove that basically nullifies anyones belief in God and this was wrong. He may believe what he says but he has no proof and has no right to say this. He can say he believes it all he wants. It is hard to understand why the Vatican would associate with anyone so vile they would make such a statement.

Hawkins should have better spent his time trying to find a cure for his own ailment which would have benefitted many others. This would have required real research that could have been proven and carried a risk of failure rather than indulging in just his speculations which cannot be proven.

Psalms 14:1
King James Version of Psalms 14:1.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Barefoot 09-27-2014 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 944747)
Please stop twisting subjects people are posting about out of context in order to insert your favorite subject into every thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by onslowe (Post 944767)
Excellent post, CF France. Truthful and precise. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 944775)
I basically agree with this principle. The only problem with the if-you-don't-like-the-topic-then-don't-read-it approach is that some posters will try to turn any topic into a discussion of their pet topic.
I agree with the "if you don't like the topic, then don't read it" approach.
I also agree with PB's comment that this approach only works if posters do not deliberately change the topic of the thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 944776)
:agree: Thanks for saying it.

kittygilchrist 09-27-2014 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tedquick;9***31
While I cannot provide a definitive answer to the two questions that VPL asked, if I understand what kitty is suggesting, and that being that man has blocked his “approachability” with denial or a heart that disallows God’s entreaties, then the result will be something other than God’s intended goal.

God’s freewill gift to us is both a blessing and a curse. The blessing is that we can choose faith or no faith. The curse is that we can choose faith or no faith. Two or more people, each having shared identical experiences, will rarely, due to filtering through their own personal histories, end up with indistinguishable conclusions; similar, perhaps, but rarely identical. Our freewill (and what a powerful and liberating gift [except for its simultaneous curse]) is perhaps one of the most valuable gifts that God has given to mortal man, second only to His Son which delivered, to us, Grace. We can choose. We can choose right or wrong. We can choose life or death. We can choose to have faith or not to have faith. We can choose to believe or not to believe. Or can we?

I believe in God. It is comforting to know that the Triune has been forever. It is comforting to know that the Triune will be forever. While I must admit that it is a challenge for me to comprehend, before the Big Bang, that there was no time and that there was nothing but an infinite singularity, there is some comfort in knowing that there was/is “something out there” that is greater than mankind. I believe that something to be God.

I am additionally pleased that it is not up to me to judge the belief of others nor is it up to me to judge the unbelief of others. I do think it is sad that the non-believers have no source or no anchor on which to lean when their worlds are falling apart. The opposite of that is also sad; to whom do they turn when they want to thank “someone” for the extraordinary lives that they may be living: or do they think that it is all of their own doing? (Sadly that used to be me. Gladly that used to be me).
Ted, you said it all, way long ago. People say here that they are hearing what the spirit says...
:-)))

Sophie11 09-27-2014 05:44 PM
Revelations 17:9 -
 
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Keepingitreal has the wisdom -

I was looking for the elders of our country to speak the truth!

Patty55 09-27-2014 05:57 PM
I really would like answer to my original question on this topic. When you all quote the bible do you do it from memory or do you look it up? Not being snarky or sarcastic, I've found it amazing how you all just whip them out.

I was brought up Catholic, we keep it simple. It comes down to "Where is God? God is everywhere." Then you hook up the trailer and off you go.

kittygilchrist 09-27-2014 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 944814)
I really would like answer to my original question on this topic. When you all quote the bible do you do it from memory or do you look it up? Not being snarky or sarcastic, I've found it amazing how you all just whip them out.

I was brought up Catholic, we keep it simple. It comes down to "Where is God? God is everywhere." Then you hook up the trailer and off you go.
I usually know it by rote. Sometimes I look it up to share context not fully in memory.

CFrance 09-27-2014 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 944774)
Please don't highlight in yellow. I (and I'm sure others) cannot read it. Thanks.
You have to highlight in some other color other than the white (which is how a quoted post shows up against a dark green background), or you won't know which are the words of the post you are quoting and which are your words in reply to that post. Yellow happens to show up against dark green better than any other color. If you have another color in mind that would show up against dark green--other than white--please mention it.

CFrance 09-27-2014 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 944819)
I usually know it by rote. Sometimes I look it up to share context not fully in memory.
I usually know it by google. My memory is not that exact where religious history/the bible is concerned.

Patty55 09-27-2014 06:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 944819)
I usually know it by rote. Sometimes I look it up to share context not fully in memory.
Thank you, I've wondered about that. Prior to moving here I had no exposure to Christians. We considered Christian to be Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran and Episcopalian.

The other thing I always wondered about is where do Chistians get buried? I've never seen a Chistian cemetary. All of the other faiths have their own with their own traditions. They have been blurred over the years, a lot of people seem to have adapted what they feel comfort in. A lot of it seems borrowed from the Jews, stones on headstones, planting at the end of the year-I do this myself now.

Sorry to go OT, this enquiring mind just wanted to know.

kittygilchrist 09-27-2014 06:31 PM
My family in Tennessee all get buried in community cemeteries. Decorating graves with elaborate florals in spring is a beautiful family ritual.

CFrance 09-27-2014 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 944829)
Thank you, I've wondered about that. Prior to moving here I had no exposure to Christians. We considered Christian to be Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran and Episcopalian.

The other thing I always wondered about is where do Chistians get buried? I've never seen a Chistian cemetary. All of the other faiths have their own with their own traditions. They have been blurred over the years, a lot of people seem to have adapted what they feel comfort in. A lot of it seems borrowed from the Jews, stones on headstones, planting at the end of the year-I do this myself now.

Sorry to go OT, this enquiring mind just wanted to know.
Christians ARE Catholic, Protestant, (as in Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopalian, etc.) Anyone who believes Jesus Christ is the son of God is a Christian. Some churches have come to describes themselves as Christians to the exclusion of other churches, but they do not have the exclusive right to call themselves Christians.

Also OT, sorry.

dbussone 09-27-2014 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 944814)
I really would like answer to my original question on this topic. When you all quote the bible do you do it from memory or do you look it up? Not being snarky or sarcastic, I've found it amazing how you all just whip them out.



I was brought up Catholic, we keep it simple. It comes down to "Where is God? God is everywhere." Then you hook up the trailer and off you go.

I look it up. Having been brought up Catholic, but now a former Catholic, I take great pleasure in reading the bible myself.

dbussone 09-27-2014 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 944821)
You have to highlight in some other color other than the white (which is how a quoted post shows up against a dark green background), or you won't know which are the words of the post you are quoting and which are your words in reply to that post. Yellow happens to show up against dark green better than any other color. If you have another color in mind that would show up against dark green--other than white--please mention it.

I'm not sure what would work, other than blue. Yellow does not.

CFrance 09-27-2014 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 944852)
I'm not sure what would work, other than blue. Yellow does not.
I can read yellow against dark green fine. Anyone else have any suggestions? A darker color does not show up against the dark green that is the background TOTV uses when you quote a post.

graciegirl 09-27-2014 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 944871)
I can read yellow against dark green fine. Anyone else have any suggestions? A darker color does not show up against the dark green that is the background TOTV uses when you quote a post.

I use pink.

CFrance 09-27-2014 08:23 PM
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dbussone 09-27-2014 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 944882)
...

Well, maybe I'm colorblind for certain colors. Thanks for trying to help.

CFrance 09-27-2014 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 944889)
Well, maybe I'm colorblind for certain colors. Thanks for trying to help.
Yes, sorry, dbussone. I tried to put pink in as Gracie's suggestion, but I totally flubbed it up. I will try again tomorrow, in a separate thread so it's not going OT.

Bonanza 09-28-2014 01:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 942452)
Mine too!
He turned my life around. I will always be grateful.
Oh. He turned your life around?

Were you an alcoholic or a drug user???

Bonanza 09-28-2014 02:15 AM
Incorrect . . .
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophie11 (Post 944145)
We all have a choice to believe or not.
The Bible clearly states one must believe in Jesus Christ to get to heaven.
There are a lot of very nice people everywhere I go but will Jesus say that he knew them when they go on?
Remember e=MC2 - energy never dies it only changes - 1 Corinthians 15:51 - 15:52 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
No, the Bible doesn't say that.
I think you mean the New Testament.
There is a difference.

Bonanza 09-28-2014 03:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 944871)
I can read yellow against dark green fine. Anyone else have any suggestions? A darker color does not show up against the dark green that is the background TOTV uses when you quote a post.
Orange -- the darker orange on green -- works for me.

rubicon 09-28-2014 03:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 944795)
If you are saying that the Bible is not true and any pope would agree with Hawkins that there is no God then things are worse than previously thought. I do not believe any denomination should be dabbling in such things, science cannot ever explain or replace required faith to find and serve God. So many have wavered on doctrine trying to adjust to current situations but God has not and does not change. The pope then and now are just mortal men and have the same limitations and problems as any other man. They live and die just like the rest. I am not Catholic and will take my personal experience and the written word of King David, King Solomon, Moses, and the apostles inspired of God. No one needs another to intercede with God for them. We pray directly to God and we receive our answers the same way. God called preachers to preach the gospel to the lost and when they are convicted of the sin of unbelief it is between them and God from that point. Others can pray for them but they have to find him on their own.

Hawkins can believe whatever he wants as I cannot and would not try to force anything I believe upon anyone but I will explain why I believe as I do. I will not sit by and let his opinion be perceived as fact at least not for me.

Hawkins has made an ill informed statement which he cannot prove that basically nullifies anyones belief in God and this was wrong. He may believe what he says but he has no proof and has no right to say this. He can say he believes it all he wants. It is hard to understand why the Vatican would associate with anyone so vile they would make such a statement.

Hawkins should have better spent his time trying to find a cure for his own ailment which would have benefitted many others. This would have required real research that could have been proven and carried a risk of failure rather than indulging in just his speculations which cannot be proven.

Psalms 14:1
King James Version of Psalms 14:1.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Keeping It Real:

Now here is where I get lost. The pope is mortal and just like any other man can have the same limitations and problems. I assume because preachers, rabbis inman are also mortal they have limitations and problems like any other man? And if they are mortal and can error then from the very first man who by worth of mouth passed down stories of the bible (Torah) (Koran) to other men who eventually recorded them can they too be in error? Those believers base the accuracy of the bible on faith that the bible is inspired by God and directed by God to be an accounting of his works and deeds and that of his instruction on man must live.

Likewise science is based on faith that a theory can be proven and that when proven it supports a scientist position but science is never settled and new discoveries only destroy old beliefs

Faith is internal its a stirring, a craving within us and based on our philosophical and psychological profiles carries us to our pre-determined genetic destinations. That is why some people are Catholics, some Jews some Morons, some prefer silent prayer while others prefer shouting out the gospel in song, some bow to the east.

It is all very complicated and so I continue to read, to listen and to analysis what clergy, scientist believers non-believers have to say but I keep coming back to that same point we are all mortal men and we error

Patty55 09-28-2014 04:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 944795)
If you are saying that the Bible is not true and any pope would agree with Hawkins that there is no God then things are worse than previously thought. I do not believe any denomination should be dabbling in such things, science cannot ever explain or replace required faith to find and serve God. So many have wavered on doctrine trying to adjust to current situations but God has not and does not change. The pope then and now are just mortal men and have the same limitations and problems as any other man. They live and die just like the rest. I am not Catholic and will take my personal experience and the written word of King David, King Solomon, Moses, and the apostles inspired of God. No one needs another to intercede with God for them. We pray directly to God and we receive our answers the same way. God called preachers to preach the gospel to the lost and when they are convicted of the sin of unbelief it is between them and God from that point. Others can pray for them but they have to find him on their own.

Hawkins can believe whatever he wants as I cannot and would not try to force anything I believe upon anyone but I will explain why I believe as I do. I will not sit by and let his opinion be perceived as fact at least not for me.

Hawkins has made an ill informed statement which he cannot prove that basically nullifies anyones belief in God and this was wrong. He may believe what he says but he has no proof and has no right to say this. He can say he believes it all he wants. It is hard to understand why the Vatican would associate with anyone so vile they would make such a statement.

Hawkins should have better spent his time trying to find a cure for his own ailment which would have benefitted many others. This would have required real research that could have been proven and carried a risk of failure rather than indulging in just his speculations which cannot be proven.

Psalms 14:1
King James Version of Psalms 14:1.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Jeez Louise, if you insist on discussing this man please at the very least get his name right. It is STEPHEN HAWKING, not Hawkins. He is a physiscist at Cambridge. In his book A Brief History in Time he discusses his views on creation. At that time he did not declare himself an atheist but concluded that if creation was self contained then God would not have the freedom to choose.

Perhaps you should consider reading some of his work (I don't think they have pictures) or at the very least spell his name properly. FYI, he has ALS, to suggest that he take time from quantum gravity to cure himself almost seems cruel.

Now, I would love to hear your thoughts on other "fools". Einstein? Tesla has always fascinated me, any thoughts on him?

graciegirl 09-28-2014 06:21 AM
Let's all step back about five paces and look at this debate. We are all good people, believers and non believers, and we should be very grateful that we have our brain cells functioning well enough to argue with each other.

By their works we shall know them, and we haven't been arrested, we pay our bills, take care of ourselves and try to help others and most of us can laugh at ourselves when we become so serious we ruin our own day.

We won't change what is and we won't change each other and we can all feel very privately superior because we think we know better.

I am a big supporter of random acts of kindness and I have been the recipient of many this week. It is my turn to find someone to be kind too.

I have grown to admire so many of you with whom I agree and don't agree and I am so glad to be here with you in this beautiful place.

AND I mean that from my heart.

Dominus Vobiscum

Walter123 09-28-2014 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 944944)
Jeez Louise, if you insist on discussing this man please at the very least get his name right. It is STEPHEN HAWKING, not Hawkins. He is a physiscist at Cambridge. In his book A Brief History in Time he discusses his views on creation. At that time he did not declare himself an atheist but concluded that if creation was self contained then God would not have the freedom to choose.

Perhaps you should consider reading some of his work (I don't think they have pictures) or at the very least spell his name properly. FYI, he has ALS, to suggest that he take time from quantum gravity to cure himself almost seems cruel.

Now, I would love to hear your thoughts on other "fools". Einstein? Tesla has always fascinated me, any thoughts on him?
You have the guts to say what I was thinking.

tucson 09-28-2014 07:15 AM
Everyone including Hawking, Einstein,Tesla, will one day in eternity stand before God and give an account of their lives. And it won't be "well, I was a good person, I gave food to the food bank or I went to church every Sunday, or at Easter or Christmas, I said "nice things" to people,etc.etc.. That is like"filthy rags" as the Bible tells us. But he that has given their lives completely in submission and made Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior, the One and Only True Lord will hear these Words, "well done my good and faithful servant" enter in....

Sophie11 09-28-2014 07:22 AM
The way is very narrow into the kingdom of GOD
 
you must put GOD 1st and everything else 2nd.
You must never change what is written in our Bibles! To the people who say are Bibles are wrong….you are why we must go through this!
Pride will never make it to heaven…..GOD is everything!

nitehawk 09-28-2014 07:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 944944)
Jeez Louise, if you insist on discussing this man please at the very least get his name right. It is STEPHEN HAWKING, not Hawkins. He is a physiscist at Cambridge. In his book A Brief History in Time he discusses his views on creation. At that time he did not declare himself an atheist but concluded that if creation was self contained then God would not have the freedom to choose.

Perhaps you should consider reading some of his work (I don't think they have pictures) or at the very least spell his name properly. FYI, he has ALS, to suggest that he take time from quantum gravity to cure himself almost seems cruel.

Now, I would love to hear your thoughts on other "fools". Einstein? Tesla has always fascinated me, any thoughts on him?
:bigbow::bigbow:

Walter123 09-28-2014 07:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tucson (Post 944977)
Everyone including Hawking, Einstein,Tesla, will one day in eternity stand before God and give an account of their lives. And it won't be "well, I was a good person, I gave food to the food bank or I went to church every Sunday, or at Easter or Christmas, I said "nice things" to people,etc.etc.. That is like"filthy rags" as the Bible tells us. But he that has given their lives completely in submission and made Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior, the One and Only True Lord will hear these Words, "well done my good and faithful servant" enter in....
I will be the best person I can be. I think that's all you can do. If there is a God then he should know what's in your heart and mind. I wouldn't think you would have to give an account of your life. Filthy rags? I don't think so.

Patty55 09-28-2014 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tucson (Post 944977)
Everyone including Hawking, Einstein,Tesla, will one day in eternity stand before God and give an account of their lives. And it won't be "well, I was a good person, I gave food to the food bank or I went to church every Sunday, or at Easter or Christmas, I said "nice things" to people,etc.etc.. That is like"filthy rags" as the Bible tells us. But he that has given their lives completely in submission and made Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior, the One and Only True Lord will hear these Words, "well done my good and faithful servant" enter in....
Just so you know, Einstein and Tesla have already stood before God.

Wait, I have one for you all ll Corinthians 11:19

It's Sunday morning (kind of), shouldn't you people be in church? Have you all crossed over to the dark side and now know that God is everywhere, including your heart and not restricted to a brick and mortar building.

Do they really serve pie at those day long sessions?

Patty55 09-28-2014 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophie11 (Post 944980)
you must put GOD 1st and everything else 2nd.
You must never change what is written in our Bibles! To the people who say are Bibles are wrong….you are why we must go through this!
Pride will never make it to heaven…..GOD is everything!
Whoa, this sounds smug and prideful to me.


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