Buying cheap imported goods may benefit the consumer short term but when their job goes overseas not in the long term.

I googled it. Turns out there is an urban legend that you can look at the bar code to see where they come from, the the legend is not based on fact. The UPC code does not provide the consumer with any verification of origin.

Where is there verification of deceit and cover-up? I followed the news of this from the beginning when people were beginning to die in Wuhan and the doctors being alarmed about it. This is an awful thing to believe unsubstantiated rumors. This is a side of the human condition I had not seen before. This is the reasons wars begin. People leaping to hate without evidence of wrong doing.

I have no stocks whatsoever, all assets are in cash, so that doesn't fly.
As for your efforts to buy American only, I salute you.
However the majority of USA will continue to buy from abroad unless corporate America, Wall Street, and the stockholders agree to take a heavy kick in their wallets, to bring manufacturing back to USA.
You do not need to be a genius to work out that the average consumer will continue to buy cheaper products from abroad, wherever they are manufactured
Many do not have the income to be as noble as yourself.

see post #101

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Reported on Fox News TV newscast... prior to issuing a written report, sources will often speak anonymously about its contents which is what Fox News reported as a "Breaking Story."
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Reported on Fox News . . . sources will often speak anonymously




So sayeth the person who watches MSNBC 24x7 ?:MOJE_whot:

I actually agree with the gist of your post ... no one is ever fully prepared and plenty of bipartisan blame to go around. Human nature is ... don't really worry about it until the s*** hits the fan so to speak. Pandemics have indeed happened before, and will again.

The one key difference is, as far as can tell, this is the first one that's ever traced back to a bioweapons lab.


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I think you make a good point. Corporate America and especilaly Wall St has to get off their China addiction. We need to suck it up and figure out a way to do this fairly such that the middle class benefits but ... and this is easier said than done ... we need to start moving our most important supply chains out of China.

The longer we wait, the harder it gets and it's already exceedingly difficult to do.

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If one seeks, they will find. (in both this thread and the Chinese intel thread)

Bar Codes 00-08 US and Canada. 30-37 France, 40-44 Germany, 471 Taiwan, 49 Japan, 50 UK.
690-692 CHINA

I don't see any proof. I have been drilled in my life to consider the source. I think it is very wise to watch all three major networks for HARD NEWS not opinions, and buddy, that takes patience. Although I do not always agree with the OPINIONS posted, I think the following sources are the most dependable as far as fact checking; The New York Times, The Washington Post, The AP Wire, The Guardian, and Reuters.

I have noticed that all three major networks have shown a slight change toward moderation since the beginning of March of this year. I witnessed Drew Pinsky on Fox tell us it was all a huge hoax in early Marchand he has since publicly apologized and most likely won't work in that capacity again. This Covid-19 epidemic was not up to the skill level of the television network doctors we have listened to for the past 10-15 years, simply because no one knows with authority what is going to happen next. There are too many unanswered questions that need to be carefully analyzed after we can all run some hard numbers AFTER we get more hard data and know who we can trust to tell us the truth. I know myself personally has changed a lot in my political opinions as I watch both sides babble on and play politics.

I have explained it to you in previous posts, as have others. I earlier made a comment about speaking to an inanimate object but that was pulled so I'm trying to be more judicious.

I will give you credit though ... you've identified the source of your inability to comprende the topic.

Do you really think the prestige media reports are unbiased, totally fair, and have no skin in the game? Do you think that they are split in their political preferences or more like 90-10 against you know who.

You've got to be kidding but I know you're not.

Look at what you said here:

"This whole blame China reeks of deflection. What has happened here is on us, our government, our planning, ourselves. …China did not know what was coming, did not know how bad it could be, and shut down Wuhan 13 days after the first recognized death, more quickly than we shut down our epicenters. Shame on us, both parties."

Poor China, I feel so bad for them. We are so mean to them, aren’t we?

However, I actually agree with you about both parties being to blame, but in the context of domestic donkeys and elephants. There are examples of POTUS’s early comments along with the Speakers public denial in Chinatown SF of any virus problem in late Feb. There are also many examples of prestige media saying it was a non-problem an no worries, mixed with condemnations of supposed xenophobia, racism and the usual verbal clubs.

Human nature being what it is, very few of us would have consented to a lockdown much sooner than it occurred. It’s also inevitable this will become politicized and we’ll each be convinced the other side are wacko extremists etc., and vote accordingly in November.

For the record, no one has evidence that the CCP deliberately unleashed the Wuhan virus as a weapon but there is evidence it likely came out of the CCP’s bioweapons lab in some form or fashion. The IC is analyzing it … maybe we’ll hear something publicly at some point, and maybe not. That could have a certain pucker factor associated with it, depending on what they find, but especially if they conclude the virus was, in effect, a biological 9/11.

The real issue is what should we be doing to counter the threat posed by the CCP to our country. That’s a more fruitful area for discussion and education IMO. You have excellent analytical skills. You could put them to use, for example, by providing a constructive critique of this video, which I posted earlier, but repeat here for convenience. I’m sure many would be interested to read your detailed analysis of what the Brigadier General says herein. (note: this interview occurred before the virus issue emerged)

Is the US-China Trade War a Cold War? (w/ Kyle Bass and Gen. Robert Spalding) - YouTube

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If you want to be knowledgeable as to what, where and why this virus began - read this,
then open the website shown below and read it all. It is long but it should be read in its entirety.
You may need to cut and paste to read, it is worth the effort.

ALCON,
Sent to me by my USSOCOM compatriots with their connections to the Pentagon and D.C. strategic advisory groups.

In condensed form synopsis---It's a massive rally speech by a Top Level Chinese General (similar to our Joint Chief of Staff level)
talking about the mistakes Germany and Japan made in WW2, against America. ....and how China will not make those mistakes.
It talks about Chinese people being the superior race on the globe, and the hatred they have of America, with its expansive living areas, blue skies and puffy-white-clouds. China is over-crowded and polluted, and they hate the fact that we're not. Talks about how they are absolutely "Using" America to get the technology secrets they want (by spying / theft) and bolster their position globally. He uses analogies to describe the unavoidable conflict of China vs. America = two goliaths on a small, narrow country road--Only "One" Can Pass. He talks about NOT using nuclear weapons, because that would be a "No-Win" scenario for everyone. Then, about 3/4 ths. into the speech, near the bottom, he flat out describes China's plan to use a "stealthy" bio-weapon to paralyze the globe, and wipe out the lives and economy of America and any firm allies we have.

And so, here we are.......COVID-19. It goes straight for your lungs and tries to "drown you" in fluid. It's not, THE FLU. It mutates and changes on its own.

The Secret Speech of General Chi Haotian – J.R. Nyquist

This was NOT an accident of nature, this was deliberate.

Totally agree
 

Well said and in my opinion, spot on.

China does not think in the same terms as us and whilst I have not issue with the Chinese people, I have major issues with the Chinese Government, they don’t bother how many deaths occur, either in their country nor any others as long as they end up as the top dog.

There MUST be a very extensive and world wide crackdown on buying goods from China and bringing manufacturing back into the West 👍

Yes many people want and can only afford the cheapest products, but buying Chinese goods to save a few dollars is very very short sighted.