Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2146076)

The sky is not falling, but the earth is warming and the actions of 8 billion humans with gigantic earth movers, coal and oil fired factories, wanton destruction of natural habitat is helping to speed up the process. When a few termites access a large structure with a normal lifespan, their activities and population increases hasten the demise of that structure. The termites can't see what they are doing and wouldn't care if they could. But humans are smarter than termites, still, some can't (or won't) see or acknowledge the big picture.
My wife and I have no kids or grand kids, and may have 20 years left, so we needn't care about human kind beyond that. But, we do. We care about our species, our planet, our country, our home. As far as "causes" go, I have two, one large cause "protect earth and keep her healthy'. That is for my fellow humans. My second and small cause is, " save the chocolate mousse". That one is for me. 🍰
😌🙏Peace

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2146107)

Well, most of the world's scientists believe in global warming. The last 8 years are the globally warmest on recorded weather history - 150years. The world's coral reefs are dying and covered in algae due to overfishing by Chinese mega-fishing fleets. Which even sail with a giant fish processing plant about as big as a military carrier. They over-fish one area of the ocean and when there is nothing left but an empty ocean, they move around the globe. China isn't the only country overfishing. (this can easily be checked with the Google machine) This is an example of humans making Global Warming worse.

The pipeline carrying natural gas from Russia to Europe has been sabotaged leaving 4 holes in the pipe. This caused a great quantity of natural gas to erupt and flow into the upper atmosphere and likely causing greater planetary warming. Because of all these factors, most scientists predict increased warming for the next 30 years. This is another example of humans adding to Global Warming.

All over the world glaciers are melting and ending up in the sea. This makes the oceans rise by MEASURABLE amounts. Scientists have been making sea measurements for many years and are SICKENED by the rapid rate of ocean rise in the last few years. The US Navy is making plans for relocating or modifying all their bases on the east coast because of expected high water problems by 2050 (that can also be easily checked on Google) Oh and did I mention that hurricanes are INCREASING in intensity and destructive force........like the recent hurricane Ian, which we are all familiar with.

These and other facts have led most scientists to believe that man's activities are causing the recent warming of the earth........to the scientists, this is known as SETTLED SCIENCE. And they have been warning about this for over 40 years and the average person WON'T believe them. Maybe in 2050 when Miami is underwater and fish are swimming in underwater condos...................it will be too obvious to not be believed !

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2146109)

Most electricity in the US is generated by natural gas because it is the most clean-burning fuel. It is clean enough to be burned in people's kitchens. China burns a lot of coal to produce electricity because they are so overpopulated. They would prefer NOT to because it produces great air pollution.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2146123)

Go ahead and spend your OWN money on this hype, not mine. Scientists disagree with each other all the time, as much as some agree. The Earth had climate change before we existed and will continue to do so without any assistance with us. We can't stop it. Like I said before, we contribute to air pollution but we don't change the weather. So funny that those that claim to be soooo intelligent have a tendency to believe what other folks tell them, just because of paper credentials. We don't raise or lower the oceans. If you wish to argue about man's contribution to air pollution, I'm with you. If you think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth or move it's track away from the Sun to cool it, your hubris is humorous. As it was in the beginning Climate change has always been and always will be, Amen.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2146161)

No way! I hadn't heard any of this before! This is all news to me...

Someone should make sure everyone reads this over and over and over again...

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2146161)

No way! I hadn't heard any of this before! This is all news to me...

Someone should make sure everyone reads this over and over and over again...

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2146228)

"Just because of paper credentials". So, you never believe doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists of any kind because they all have paper credentials?
We don't raise or lower the oceans any more then you raise or lower the electric windows of your car. Our actions affect climate change which raise or lower the oceans. You assist the raising or lowering of your windows by pushing the button which activates an electric motor that raises the window.
"You think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth". Rotation of the planet, axis tilt, orbital track are all things that could affect climate change, but they are not the only things and they are not the current subject being under discussion. The subject is the affects of unhealthy ecosystems of our planet that are contributing to the speeding up of climate change. And, No, I am not strong enough. But, with the 8 billion other humans with all their industry and destruction and poisoning of our oceans, forests and air, we are having an impact. And it ain't good.

P.S., Don't want your money. Just want you to be aware of this situation so you will understand when others begin trying to repair the damage. No need to panic.


YET.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2146234)

That was an excellent post and I hope that some forum readers are able to take it in with an open mind. I can see the points about ice ages and earth changes over millions of years. But, I can't see how that in ANY WAY negates the fact that we are dealing today with RECENT changes of warming caused by mankind (and in this case man -cruel to itself) Scientists measure temperatures at various points around the planet. And from those measurements, The FACT has emerged that the last 8 years are the warmest in weather recorded history.

I can't ignore that fact and I am confused as to how that is controversial. And I have pointed out many, many other issues.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2146285)

And so the mutual admiration division of the International Tooth Fairy Club rolls on.......

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2146228)

"Just because of paper credentials". So, you never believe doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists of any kind because they all have paper credentials?
We don't raise or lower the oceans any more then you raise or lower the electric windows of your car. Our actions affect climate change which raise or lower the oceans. You assist the raising or lowering of your windows by pushing the button which activates an electric motor that raises the window.
"You think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth". Rotation of the planet, axis tilt, orbital track are all things that could affect climate change, but they are not the only things and they are not the current subject being under discussion. The subject is the affects of unhealthy ecosystems of our planet that are contributing to the speeding up of climate change. And, No, I am not strong enough. But, with the 8 billion other humans with all their industry and destruction and poisoning of our oceans, forests and air, we are having an impact. And it ain't good.

P.S., Don't want your money. Just want you to be aware of this situation so you will understand when others begin trying to repair the damage. No need to panic.


YET.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2146322)

When you join do they put more money under your pillow when you lose a tooth?

Asking for a friend.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2146335)

[COLOR="Red"] ... When it gets dark outside, it doesn't mean that the Sun was extinguished, even if a scientist was to tell us this.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2146234)

That was an excellent post and I hope that some forum readers are able to take it in with an open mind. I can see the points about ice ages and earth changes over millions of years. But, I can't see how that in ANY WAY negates the fact that we are dealing today with RECENT changes of warming caused by mankind (and in this case man -cruel to itself) Scientists measure temperatures at various points around the planet. And from those measurements, The FACT has emerged that the last 8 years are the warmest in weather recorded history.

I can't ignore that fact and I am confused as to how that is controversial. And I have pointed out many, many other issues.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2146285)

And so the mutual admiration division of the International Tooth Fairy Club rolls on.......