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Stu from NYC 10-12-2022 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2145937)
don't we need coal to produce electricity??

It seems to be a closely guarded secret of those who are pushing strongly for EV;s

golfing eagles 10-12-2022 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2145939)
It seems to be a closely guarded secret of those who are pushing strongly for EV;s

I may need a change in strategy

Look at it this way----There are some fairly intelligent and probably successful posters on this site who have bought hook, line and sinker into this climate change/EV fantasy. Now look at the average American, who is most likely less intelligent, and therefore even more likely to believe in that garbage.

May be time to buy Tesla and lithium mining stocks:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Stu from NYC 10-12-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2145946)
I may need a change in strategy

Look at it this way----There are some fairly intelligent and probably successful posters on this site who have bought hook, line and sinker into this climate change/EV fantasy. Now look at the average American, who is most likely less intelligent, and therefore even more likely to believe in that garbage.

May be time to buy Tesla and lithium mining stocks:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But what happens when someone invents a new technology that will replace EV's? Fusions day is coming.

golfing eagles 10-12-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2146007)
But what happens when someone invents a new technology that will replace EV's? Fusions day is coming.

The same people will be screaming "the sky is falling"----but it will be that lithium batteries for EVs and solar panels and windmill blades are going to destroy the planet in our lifetimes. It's the opposite of the James Dean movie "Rebel Without a Cause"-----these people will settle for ANY cause----save the whales, occupy wall st., blm, and now climate change.

fdpaq0580 10-12-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2145937)
don't we need coal to produce electricity??

No! There are alternatives to coal and oil, if we care to employ them. Atomic, solar, wind, hydro-electric, etc.

fdpaq0580 10-12-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2146024)
The same people will be screaming "the sky is falling"----but it will be that lithium batteries for EVs and solar panels and windmill blades are going to destroy the planet in our lifetimes. It's the opposite of the James Dean movie "Rebel Without a Cause"-----these people will settle for ANY cause----save the whales, occupy wall st., blm, and now climate change.

The sky is not falling, but the earth is warming and the actions of 8 billion humans with gigantic earth movers, coal and oil fired factories, wanton destruction of natural habitat is helping to speed up the process. When a few termites access a large structure with a normal lifespan, their activities and population increases hasten the demise of that structure. The termites can't see what they are doing and wouldn't care if they could. But humans are smarter than termites, still, some can't (or won't) see or acknowledge the big picture.
My wife and I have no kids or grand kids, and may have 20 years left, so we needn't care about human kind beyond that. But, we do. We care about our species, our planet, our country, our home. As far as "causes" go, I have two, one large cause "protect earth and keep her healthy'. That is for my fellow humans. My second and small cause is, " save the chocolate mousse". That one is for me. 🍰
😌🙏Peace

jimjamuser 10-12-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2145914)
Wow, what a thread. I fail to see why this is so debated and that anyone actually believes humans can do anything to change weather, climate or global warming (if there is such a thing). We may be able to change some things within our own environment, but to change something on a Global scale is probably not within human reach. Do those who believe in God feel that God is not in control of the earth that he created? Do those who believe in Science feel that our level of scientific and technological knowledge is really capable of effecting change on such a global level? We should all leave the planet and then watch the earths evolution over the next few hundred years to see what, if any, change takes place. That's as solid a plan as any trying to have impact on the perceived global warming. IMHO

Well, most of the world's scientists believe in global warming. The last 8 years are the globally warmest on recorded weather history - 150years. The world's coral reefs are dying and covered in algae due to overfishing by Chinese mega-fishing fleets. Which even sail with a giant fish processing plant about as big as a military carrier. They over-fish one area of the ocean and when there is nothing left but an empty ocean, they move around the globe. China isn't the only country overfishing. (this can easily be checked with the Google machine) This is an example of humans making Global Warming worse.

The pipeline carrying natural gas from Russia to Europe has been sabotaged leaving 4 holes in the pipe. This caused a great quantity of natural gas to erupt and flow into the upper atmosphere and likely causing greater planetary warming. Because of all these factors, most scientists predict increased warming for the next 30 years. This is another example of humans adding to Global Warming.

All over the world glaciers are melting and ending up in the sea. This makes the oceans rise by MEASURABLE amounts. Scientists have been making sea measurements for many years and are SICKENED by the rapid rate of ocean rise in the last few years. The US Navy is making plans for relocating or modifying all their bases on the east coast because of expected high water problems by 2050 (that can also be easily checked on Google) Oh and did I mention that hurricanes are INCREASING in intensity and destructive force........like the recent hurricane Ian, which we are all familiar with.

These and other facts have led most scientists to believe that man's activities are causing the recent warming of the earth........to the scientists, this is known as SETTLED SCIENCE. And they have been warning about this for over 40 years and the average person WON'T believe them. Maybe in 2050 when Miami is underwater and fish are swimming in underwater condos...................it will be too obvious to not be believed !

jimjamuser 10-12-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2145937)
don't we need coal to produce electricity??

Most electricity in the US is generated by natural gas because it is the most clean-burning fuel. It is clean enough to be burned in people's kitchens. China burns a lot of coal to produce electricity because they are so overpopulated. They would prefer NOT to because it produces great air pollution.

jimjamuser 10-12-2022 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2145946)
I may need a change in strategy

Look at it this way----There are some fairly intelligent and probably successful posters on this site who have bought hook, line and sinker into this climate change/EV fantasy. Now look at the average American, who is most likely less intelligent, and therefore even more likely to believe in that garbage.

May be time to buy Tesla and lithium mining stocks:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Actually, lithium mining stocks might be a good idea for a high-risk and high-reward purchase. However, since there is a recession predicted for early 2023, I will wait until then to check out any companies that are mining lithium in Alaska.

mikemalloy 10-12-2022 12:11 PM

Galileo was put under house arrest by the Church because he insisted that the sun not the earth was the center of the universe. The church's reason (ie. excuse) was that the vast majority of scientists at the time disagreed with him and believed that the earth was the center of the universe.

jimjamuser 10-12-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2146076)
The sky is not falling, but the earth is warming and the actions of 8 billion humans with gigantic earth movers, coal and oil fired factories, wanton destruction of natural habitat is helping to speed up the process. When a few termites access a large structure with a normal lifespan, their activities and population increases hasten the demise of that structure. The termites can't see what they are doing and wouldn't care if they could. But humans are smarter than termites, still, some can't (or won't) see or acknowledge the big picture.
My wife and I have no kids or grand kids, and may have 20 years left, so we needn't care about human kind beyond that. But, we do. We care about our species, our planet, our country, our home. As far as "causes" go, I have two, one large cause "protect earth and keep her healthy'. That is for my fellow humans. My second and small cause is, " save the chocolate mousse". That one is for me. 🍰
😌🙏Peace

That was a GREAT analogy about termites NOT seeing the big picture of their world's destruction. Humans are chewing away at their bigger world. Humans have great capacity for good, but also have the ability to self-destruct by nuclear annihilation of their own species.

Byte1 10-12-2022 12:58 PM

Go ahead and spend your OWN money on this hype, not mine. Scientists disagree with each other all the time, as much as some agree. The Earth had climate change before we existed and will continue to do so without any assistance with us. We can't stop it. Like I said before, we contribute to air pollution but we don't change the weather. So funny that those that claim to be soooo intelligent have a tendency to believe what other folks tell them, just because of paper credentials. We don't raise or lower the oceans. If you wish to argue about man's contribution to air pollution, I'm with you. If you think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth or move it's track away from the Sun to cool it, your hubris is humorous. As it was in the beginning Climate change has always been and always will be, Amen.

Stu from NYC 10-12-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2146107)
Well, most of the world's scientists believe in global warming. The last 8 years are the globally warmest on recorded weather history - 150years. The world's coral reefs are dying and covered in algae due to overfishing by Chinese mega-fishing fleets. Which even sail with a giant fish processing plant about as big as a military carrier. They over-fish one area of the ocean and when there is nothing left but an empty ocean, they move around the globe. China isn't the only country overfishing. (this can easily be checked with the Google machine) This is an example of humans making Global Warming worse.

The pipeline carrying natural gas from Russia to Europe has been sabotaged leaving 4 holes in the pipe. This caused a great quantity of natural gas to erupt and flow into the upper atmosphere and likely causing greater planetary warming. Because of all these factors, most scientists predict increased warming for the next 30 years. This is another example of humans adding to Global Warming.

All over the world glaciers are melting and ending up in the sea. This makes the oceans rise by MEASURABLE amounts. Scientists have been making sea measurements for many years and are SICKENED by the rapid rate of ocean rise in the last few years. The US Navy is making plans for relocating or modifying all their bases on the east coast because of expected high water problems by 2050 (that can also be easily checked on Google) Oh and did I mention that hurricanes are INCREASING in intensity and destructive force........like the recent hurricane Ian, which we are all familiar with.

These and other facts have led most scientists to believe that man's activities are causing the recent warming of the earth........to the scientists, this is known as SETTLED SCIENCE. And they have been warning about this for over 40 years and the average person WON'T believe them. Maybe in 2050 when Miami is underwater and fish are swimming in underwater condos...................it will be too obvious to not be believed !

Been reading lately that hurricanes are not increasing in intensity and destructive force.

golfing eagles 10-12-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2146107)
Well, most of the world's scientists believe in global warming. The last 8 years are the globally warmest on recorded weather history - 150years. The world's coral reefs are dying and covered in algae due to overfishing by Chinese mega-fishing fleets. Which even sail with a giant fish processing plant about as big as a military carrier. They over-fish one area of the ocean and when there is nothing left but an empty ocean, they move around the globe. China isn't the only country overfishing. (this can easily be checked with the Google machine) This is an example of humans making Global Warming worse.

The pipeline carrying natural gas from Russia to Europe has been sabotaged leaving 4 holes in the pipe. This caused a great quantity of natural gas to erupt and flow into the upper atmosphere and likely causing greater planetary warming. Because of all these factors, most scientists predict increased warming for the next 30 years. This is another example of humans adding to Global Warming.

All over the world glaciers are melting and ending up in the sea. This makes the oceans rise by MEASURABLE amounts. Scientists have been making sea measurements for many years and are SICKENED by the rapid rate of ocean rise in the last few years. The US Navy is making plans for relocating or modifying all their bases on the east coast because of expected high water problems by 2050 (that can also be easily checked on Google) Oh and did I mention that hurricanes are INCREASING in intensity and destructive force........like the recent hurricane Ian, which we are all familiar with.

These and other facts have led most scientists to believe that man's activities are causing the recent warming of the earth........to the scientists, this is known as SETTLED SCIENCE. And they have been warning about this for over 40 years and the average person WON'T believe them. Maybe in 2050 when Miami is underwater and fish are swimming in underwater condos...................it will be too obvious to not be believed !

Now that's a hoot! 40 years ago those climate experts were warning us of an impending ICE AGE, not global warming. Apparently that science is nowhere near as "settled" as one might think.

Petula Clark had a hit song in the 60's---"Don't Sleep in the Subway". The applicable lyrics are "I've heard it all a million times before"

The cited posts and others like it have been repeated many times on this thread. But it was nonsense the first time it was posted. It was nonsense the 20th time and is nonsense now. If it gets repeated another 50 times it will still be nonsense. Repeating misinformation 1,000 times doesn't make it true. I forget if it was Goebbels or Hitler that stated "the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it"

Meanwhile, I, among others, have posted the accurate factual information several times. There is no reason to repeat it again since the truly indoctrinated into the climate change cult will need a professional deprogrammer to return to reality.

JMintzer 10-12-2022 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2146007)
But what happens when someone invents a new technology that will replace EV's? Fusions day is coming.

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