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01-27-2023 12:27 PM |
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Originally Posted by Bill14564
(Post 2180410)
Smoke/air pollution increasing the density of the naturally occurring clouds and CO2 and other greenhouse gases contributing to an atmospheric shield that may be increasing the rate of naturally occurring warming. Yeah, nothing similar there.
Again, except for sounding, the debate is not about the fact of warming. The debate is about human activities causing an increase in the rate of warming. The argument for seems to be based on science and data while the argument against seems to be based on denial and conspiracy.
I don't know which is more correct, I only know which is more convincing.
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I don't know either, nobody does and that has been my point all along. We simply don't have enough data over a long enough period of time to draw any conclusions. Some posters want to extrapolate the last 120 years, some 30 years, some 7 years and the worst outlier is extrapolating one single hurricane. But even at 120 years all we are talking about is WEATHER, not CLIMATE.
Is human activity responsible for the last 23,000 years of global warming---obviously not, only a fool would think so.
Is current human activity increasing the rate of warming? MAYBE, but again the data hasn't been collected for long enough. The worst is that our scientists know this is inadequate data but since they must either "publish or perish, they publish. What do they publish? What the powers that be want to hear. I would not want to be a climatologist who applies for a federal grant to fund his study on the premise that human activity does not affect global warming at all. Two words describe that endeavor----- APPLICATION DENIED. Nor would I want to be on the faculty of a major university applying for tenure but be a so-called "climate change denier"---again, APPLICATION DENIED. On the other hand, if you propose a grant for a study showing that humans have altered the planet's temperature so drastically that the sky is falling (or perhaps on fire like Irwin Allen's movie of "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"), then they will hand you money hand over fist and laud you as the greatest climate scientist that ever lived. Can anyone spell B-I-A-S???????
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