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BarryRX 08-27-2016 08:53 PM

I detest what he did, but I will defend to the death his right to do it.

Taltarzac725 08-27-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 1279299)
I detest what he did, but I will defend to the death his right to do it.

I do like to hear that. Freedom of speech should apply here in this situation. He will take flak from his teammates and fans and maybe even some of his sponsors but he should be able to take a stand for something he believes in strongly.

And remember the backgrounds of some of these NFL players. Some do come from some rather mean streets.

Nucky 08-27-2016 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1279233)
Here's what I would like to see happen and I really believe it will happen once the season starts; some defense is going to call a blitz and his blockers are going to back off and let the defense paste his a** into the turf. Let's see how oppressed you are when they have to cart your whining, self centered, unAmerican ego off the field, you sniveling little overpaid turd.

jcrazorbackfan you are on the absolute rite track. I would bench him if I was the coach, I would disregard him if I was his teammate, I would trade him if possible. The De Bartolo family has a hugh problem on their hands now. No doubt this guy has the Free Speech Rite to act like this but don't you think he would realize he is looked up to by many children in a land of gangs and the like. What a damn shame he couldn't voice his concerns another more constructive way.

There are a lot of NFL players who are going to go to work on this clown. Remember he used to kiss the muscle on his arm and act like he was ripping open his jersey to show you his heart when he score a touchdown? I hope he holds that memory. He will be murderlized by his opponents just like in the movie The Fifty Yard Line starring Burt Reynolds. He just spit in the face of every person serving our country. Without football and the money he has nobody would pay attention. He is a low life in my opinion.

Taltarzac725 08-27-2016 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1279333)
jcrazorbackfan you are on the absolute rite track. I would bench him if I was the coach, I would disregard him if I was his teammate, I would trade him if possible. The De Bartolo family has a hugh problem on their hands now. No doubt this guy has the Free Speech Rite to act like this but don't you think he would realize he is looked up to by many children in a land of gangs and the like. What a damn shame he couldn't voice his concerns another more constructive way.

There are a lot of NFL players who are going to go to work on this clown. Remember he used to kiss the muscle on his arm and act like he was ripping open his jersey to show you his heart when he score a touchdown? I hope he holds that memory. He will be murderlized by his opponents just like in the movie The Fifty Yard Line starring Burt Reynolds. He just spit in the face of every person serving our country. Without football and the money he has nobody would pay attention. He is a low life in my opinion.

Because he did not stand for the National Anthem? I do not see the connection that he is disrespecting our military. Our Congress, President, Supreme Court and the lawyers but not the military. It is the lawyers and bureaucrats who really rule the world.

Nucky 08-27-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1279334)
Because he did not stand for the National Anthem? I do not see the connection that he is disrespecting our military. Our Congress, President, Supreme Court and the lawyers but not the military. It is the lawyers and bureaucrats who really rule the world.

This is the common mans belief that the Flag and our Country be respected. No need to dissect it any further. This is a forum not a court of law. I represented my belief that he is a very disrespectful individual who truly is not worth my time. If he gets to show his disrespect I wish to show that I do respect all the things that make our country great. Our service people fight for our freedom and the fact that he does not respect the National Anthem and our Flag is unforgivable.

A lawyer's thinking and way of breaking things down and steering their point of view is commendable when they are supporting your case but seem dopey when it is against things that the majority of American hold dear. If this idiot won a Gold medal in the Olympics and sat when the Medals were awarded that would be an epic failure. What the hell is different other that the venue? I rest my case.

chuckinca 08-27-2016 10:38 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see other athletes or celebrities do the same or similar.

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Taltarzac725 08-27-2016 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1279336)
This is the common mans belief that the Flag and our Country be respected. No need to dissect it any further. This is a forum not a court of law. I represented my belief that he is a very disrespectful individual who truly is not worth my time. If he gets to show his disrespect I wish to show that I do respect all the things that make our country great. Our service people fight for our freedom and the fact that he does not respect the National Anthem and our Flag is unforgivable.

A lawyer's thinking and way of breaking things down and steering their point of view is commendable when they are supporting your case but seem dopey when it is against things that the majority of American hold dear. If this idiot won a Gold medal in the Olympics and sat when the Medals were awarded that would be an epic failure. What the hell is different other that the venue? I rest my case.

There have been Olympic athletes who have done something like this and usually to voice concern about the treatment of blacks.

I volunteered in a Veterans Hospital for a year in Reno, Nevada and have read a lot of history including military bios and most soldiers fight for the people immediately around them and often dislike the military brass especially if they put them in harm's way often for their own glory.

I do not see most people in the US thinking that not standing at the National Anthem disrespects the military. It does disrespects the powers that be.

I love how Jesse Owens showed up the Nazis at the 1936 Olympics. Any patriotism towards Nazi Germany was something to be sneered at.

Barefoot 08-27-2016 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1279333)
What a damn shame he couldn't voice his concerns another more constructive way.

:agree:

The Buckeyes 08-27-2016 11:34 PM

When I hear the National Anthem, I think of that flag and how many courageous men and women made the ultimate sacrifice in defending it and what it stands for so, when you disrespect the National Anthem, in a way, you disrespect the people who died for that flag. That ****es me off to no end.

villagerjack 08-28-2016 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1279233)
Here's what I would like to see happen and I really believe it will happen once the season starts; some defense is going to call a blitz and his blockers are going to back off and let the defense paste his a** into the turf. Let's see how oppressed you are when they have to cart your whining, self centered, unAmerican ego off the field, you sniveling little overpaid turd.

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I like your idea.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 03:18 AM

Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We will have to see how this plays out. With violence suggested against this man for voicing an opinion which is his right under the laws of this great land or if he plays football without fear that his offensive line-men do not protect him adequately.

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1279233)
Here's what I would like to see happen and I really believe it will happen once the season starts; some defense is going to call a blitz and his blockers are going to back off and let the defense paste his a** into the turf. Let's see how oppressed you are when they have to cart your whining, self centered, unAmerican ego off the field, you sniveling little overpaid turd.


Signs of the times.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 03:45 AM

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Just a week ago we saw plenty of African American athletes proud to represent their country in the Olympics, waving the American flag and showing respect during the National Anthem. If they had any negative feelings about our country we never knew. Colin Kaepernick's actions and words, things he can freely express in this country, don't help fix anything, they only fuel the fire.
I do agree with this statement that Colin Kaepernick did show a very unwise choice with where and how he voiced his feelings.

Off of one of my Facebook threads from one of the many news anchors I follow around the United States. The quote above is just one of he comments made by a woman after a news anchor brought up this subject.

There does seem a lot of disgust coming from the police officer Facebook pages as well for Colin Kaepernick's actions from some of the police departments and/or associations which I have on my Facebook account.

Nucky 08-28-2016 09:39 AM

He is a Pinhead. No violence was wished or implied. Football is a game. People are people. Reality is reality. I am taking a guess that his teammates or opponents will straighten him out. I did a little checking last night and found out he didn't even play because of "A Dead Arm". Divine intervention is taking care of this already.

It is possible that a person who claims "Free Speech" and lets this kind of protest slip by under the Umbrella of Free Speech would possibly not cringe at the site of a flag being burned in the USA on our soil. If it's so bad here where you make that kind of money take an alternative route immediately and change the scenery.

I have always felt strongly about respect at all levels. My feelings were heightened five years ago when our son joined the Army. My Brother in law was in the service for 25 years and a nephew was in the Navy. Listen to The American Soldier by Toby Keith and feel the sacrifices that all service people have made for us and our country and the flag and then be patient with me please and explain why its OK for a punk like this to Disrespect the National Anthem and Flag.

Bonnevie 08-28-2016 09:51 AM

It's totally his right. However, I would question what he actually does to help his community. Has he done anything over the years to protest black on black killings? Has he encouraged people involved to talk to police and not protect killers? Does he continually mentor youth in those communities? It is easy to make what really is a meaningless gesture rather than be part of the solution. All this gesture has done is divide people more.

Rapscallion St Croix 08-28-2016 10:01 AM

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.


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