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l2ridehd 08-28-2016 10:21 AM

Interesting discussion and lots of opinions. I for one will never watch a game he plays in again. And if other fans do the same with ticket purchases and television ratings he will be eliminated from the game.

Yes he has the right to do what he did, just as much as I have to never support watching him, products he endorses, or every supporting any team he plays for.

Vote with your wallet and he is done as a player.

kansasr 08-28-2016 10:57 AM

FUN FACT: Most people saying Colin Kaepernick is unpatriotic for criticizing America do so while wearing red ball caps that say America isn't great.

birdawg 08-28-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1279477)
His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

You hit the nail on the head.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 11:10 AM

Colin Kaepernick Continues Charitable Work for Camp Taylor

He does work for kids with heart disease which should offset some rather thoughtless action he took on a football field.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 11:14 AM

African American Mayors Association

And there is this about African American mayors.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 11:20 AM

More power to 49ers' Colin Kaepernick for taking a stand against social injustice

I wanted to see what the Reno Gazette Journal had to say about Colin Kaepernick. He is a celebrity in Reno because of his football playing with my alma mater the University of Nevada, Reno.

Allegiance 08-28-2016 11:25 AM

America is brainwashed watching near worthless sports and reality TV. Thugs and freaks are glorified. It's sad.

Decent people are more and more the minority.

golfing eagles 08-28-2016 11:25 AM

Sorry, I have no tolerance for this type of "protest", disrespecting our flag, our national anthem and our country.
Go march with BLM, make a speech at a community meeting, read to inner city kids, donate to the NAACP---but NOT THIS, it is not the time or the place.

My wife's ancestors came on the Mayflower. Her great great great great great uncle signed the Declaration of Independence. His cousin died in the Revolution. Lincoln commended her great great great uncle. Her second cousin went down on the Arizona. Her brother posed for the iconic Vietnam era photo of a soldier in silhouette holding a M-16 over his head. My father marched across Europe with Patton. My brother was in Da Nang. Our son has citations from President Bush and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

No, I have no tolerance for what he did---even if I ever agreed with his point of view, this was no way to express it.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1279516)
Sorry, I have no tolerance for this type of "protest", disrespecting our flag, our national anthem and our country.
Go march with BLM, make a speech at a community meeting, read to inner city kids, donate to the NAACP---but NOT THIS, it is not the time or the place.

My wife's ancestors came on the Mayflower. Her great great great great great uncle signed the Declaration of Independence. His cousin died in the Revolution. Lincoln commended her great great great uncle. Her second cousin went down on the Arizona. Her brother posed for the iconic Vietnam era photo of a soldier in silhouette holding a M-16 over his head. My father marched across Europe with Patton. My brother was in Da Nang. Our son has citations from President Bush and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

No, I have no tolerance for what he did---even if I ever agreed with his point of view, this was no way to express it.

That's quite a background for your wife. My mother's mother side is kind of like that with Stimson, Trueblood and Hopkins family trees going quite far back. My double cousin James did some intensive research when he managed a hotel or something like that near Plymouth MA but could not find the connection to the signer of the Declaration of Independence that supposedly was in our family tree.

It does seem like a bad choice to me for this quarterback to make but I am not an African American who has fought hard to get where I am.

The San Francisco 49ers are a team I have rooted for since the 1970s when we lived in Reno, Nevada.

golfing eagles 08-28-2016 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1279536)
That's quite a background for your wife. My mother's mother side is kind of like that with Stimson, Trueblood and Hopkins family trees going quite far back. My double cousin James did some intensive research when he managed a hotel or something like that near Plymouth MA but could not find the connection to the signer of the Declaration of Independence that supposedly was in our family tree.

It does seem like a bad choice to me for this quarterback to make but I am not an African American who has fought hard to get where I am.

The San Francisco 49ers are a team I have rooted for since the 1970s when we lived in Reno, Nevada.

I have no problem with free speech, and he certainly had the right to do it, but along with that comes consequences, hopefully not the violent type. There is a big difference in free speech between yelling "fire" in the middle of a desert as opposed to a crowded theater.

Bonnevie 08-28-2016 12:20 PM

My biggest issue is that the gesture did what? helped the dialog on this subject? you can see here and elsewhere it was more polarizing than anything. Something meaningful would be to go into communities and speak to the youth. But that probably isn't as much fun as hosting a golf tournament for Camp Taylor. Big deal you sat down as your big gesture. What does that solve? Offer some solutions. You have a platform to do that--to be a role model. And if people don't like the way police handle things, join the police departments....I hear Dallas and Baton Rouge have openings.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1279550)
My biggest issue is that the gesture did what? helped the dialog on this subject? you can see here and elsewhere it was more polarizing than anything. Something meaningful would be to go into communities and speak to the youth. But that probably isn't as much fun as hosting a golf tournament for Camp Taylor. Big deal you sat down as your big gesture. What does that solve? Offer some solutions. You have a platform to do that--to be a role model. And if people don't like the way police handle things, join the police departments....I hear Dallas and Baton Rouge have openings.

That is a very good point. This man is 28 though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick

Nucky 08-28-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1279564)
That is a very good point. This man is 28 though. Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your point on Free Speech is understood and I agree. When I Googled this guy I found a man named Glen Coffee who left the 49er's and went into the Army for many different reasons. This is the kind of person we should concentrate on not some fool. Colin was fascinating to watch during a few games a talented guy for sure. But like so many players before him he was just a flash in the pan. His career is circling the drain now.

kcrazorbackfan 08-28-2016 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1279477)
His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

I really agree with you on this one.

capecoralbill 08-28-2016 01:08 PM

Comcast forces me to pay for Sports
 
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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1279515)
America is brainwashed watching near worthless sports and reality TV. Thugs and freaks are glorified. It's sad.
Decent people are more and more the minority.

I totally agree, I DO NOT WATCH PROFESSIONAL contact SPORTS.
Furthermore, the crooks at Comcast force me to pay a "Regional Sports Fee" of 3.00 per month, huh? what is that??? It is on page 2 if you're wondering.
Decent people are powerless, this country has lost its character. I will be voting for Trump. Stop, my blood pressure is peaking. Have a nice day, Bill


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