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ColdNoMore 08-28-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1279477)
His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

JGVillages 08-28-2016 08:02 PM

Here if some freedom of speech that gets to the point.

49ers Fan Burns Colin Kaepernick

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1279804)
Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

I am surprised by some of the posts on here. They belong more to the 1950s than 2016.

Free speech though is one of the most important rights guaranteed by our Constitution.

ColdNoMore 08-28-2016 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1279821)
I am surprised by some of the posts on here. They belong more to the 1950s than 2016.

Free speech though is one of the most important rights guaranteed by our Constitution.

My hat is off to you Talt...for being willing to speak up. :ho:

kcrazorbackfan 08-28-2016 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1279536)
That's quite a background for your wife. My mother's mother side is kind of like that with Stimson, Trueblood and Hopkins family trees going quite far back. My double cousin James did some intensive research when he managed a hotel or something like that near Plymouth MA but could not find the connection to the signer of the Declaration of Independence that supposedly was in our family tree.

It does seem like a bad choice to me for this quarterback to make but I am not an African American who has fought hard to get where I am.

The San Francisco 49ers are a team I have rooted for since the 1970s when we lived in Reno, Nevada.

Do you really think that only black people have fought to get where they're at? Seriously? I am a white person who fought damn hard to get where I am and I am pretty positive that I'm not the only person on TOTV (whatever ethnicity they may be), that has fought, clawed and scratched to have gotten to where they are today.

Root for the 49ers and their "oppressed feeling" QB all you want, that is your right, just like it is my right, and the right of a of a lot more people than you, that hope he gets his un-American "oppressed feeling" a** smashed in the turf; it is going to happen.

chuckinca 08-28-2016 09:21 PM

Who's going to smash him to the turf over this issue in the NFL where about 80% or so of the players are "minorities".

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manaboutown 08-28-2016 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1279477)
His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

This is the proverbial elephant in the room.

So sad but so true.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1279832)
Who's going to smash him to the turf over this issue in the NFL where about 80% or so of the players are "minorities".

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This is what bugs me. Advocating violence against someone who is basically condemning violence against minorities. Granted he seems naive in this belief and the way he has taken this stand but it is a very important part of our American Dream to be able to voice our concerns under the US and State Constitutions. In many countries, some of which we have fought wars against partially for how they condemned independent thinking, it is hard to really speak what is in your heart without facing grace consequences. The same kind of authoritarian thinking is creeping into the US discourse and it scares me quite a bit. If you do not like what I say then I will harm you in some way kind of approach. The same kind of crap you found at the start of Nazism and Mussolini's Italy and Stalin's Russia. And there is nothing remotely Christian about it.

chuckinca 08-28-2016 09:57 PM

After his recent comments the Maine Governor is the one that needs to be smashed to the turf :

Quoting Yahoo News:

"In defending himself from accusations of racism and homophobia on Friday, Maine Gov. Paul LePage made yet another explicitly racist comment — arguing that people of color or of Hispanic origin are “the enemy” and suggesting that they should be shot.

LePage said:

A bad guy is a bad guy. I don’t care what color he is. When you go to war, if you know the enemy, the enemy dresses in red and you dress in blue, you shoot at red. … You shoot at the enemy. You try to identify the enemy. And the enemy right now, the overwhelming majority of people coming in are people of color or people of Hispanic origin."

goodtimesintv 08-28-2016 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1279836)
This is what bugs me. Advocating violence against someone who is basically condemning violence against minorities. Granted he seems naive in this belief and the way he has taken this stand but it is a very important part of our American Dream to be able to voice our concerns under the US and State Constitutions. In many countries, some of which we have fought wars against partially for how they condemned independent thinking, it is hard to really speak what is in your heart without facing grace consequences. The same kind of authoritarian thinking is creeping into the US discourse and it scares me quite a bit. If you do not like what I say then I will harm you in some way kind of approach. The same kind of crap you found at the start of Nazism and Mussolini's Italy and Stalin's Russia. And there is nothing remotely Christian about it.

I think people are far off base in saying the outcry is to deny him his constitutional rights. Of course he has the right to say what he said......but the problem in THIS situation is that he is an EMPLOYEE of a business entity, and he is there to perform his friggin' JOB for the employer and customers who pay admission and are t.v. viewers. He can say whatever stupid, ignorant insult he wants--against our "government"--but we don't have to like it or put up with it!!

He condemns the "government" for "oppressing" black people, but WE are the government in that we PAY lots of money for palatial venues for guys like him to play in, and WE pay a fortune for Homeland Security, police, fire and more to protect this ingrate from terrorist attacks such as happened in the stadium in Paris last November. Those stadiums full of people are huge targets, and WE pay to protect that INGRATE. We have a right to say what WE think, about what he said about us and our government, too!

SwampCreature 08-28-2016 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1279804)
Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

Welcome to The Villages!

Don't be shocked, this expresses the attitudes of a large number of residents here.

kcrazorbackfan 08-29-2016 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1279804)
Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

Just some white oppressed people standing up for their views....

ColdNoMore 08-29-2016 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1279862)
Just some white oppressed people standing up for their views....

The single biggest head start any of us get in this country (that we didn't earn).....is being born a white male in the USA.


ColdNoMore 08-29-2016 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SwampCreature (Post 1279850)
Welcome to The Villages!

Don't be shocked, this expresses the attitudes of a large number of residents here.

I understand...and it's not just here.

I spent 40 years in an industry that touted fairness and equality with company propaganda, yet when my upper management peers were alone with me (whereby they mistakenly thought I was somehow like them)...their real racism/prejudice came forth. :(

Funny though, not a single one of them wished they had been born black...I wonder why? :ohdear:

Bay Kid 08-29-2016 06:33 AM

It is just a shame....


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