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Wyseguy 10-04-2021 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012775)
Res ipsa loquitur
Sapere aude

golfing eagles 10-04-2021 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2012798)
Sapere aude
I already know.

Wyseguy 10-04-2021 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012796)
All I can say is that I applaud the individual who has the intelligence, education, and resources to do his own 5,000+ patient, multi-centered, double blinded, placebo controlled study and the facilities to correlate and interpret all the data so that he can "come to his own conclusions and think for himself" I have yet to meet that individual, but based on some of the posts on this thread, there must not only be people who think that person exists, but also think that they ARE that person.
Or someone can look at studies performed in the UK, Israel and the US, take that data, compare the results and if they differ use his own common sense to decide which is best for him. I know you realize the "experts" have not only contradicted each other, but themselves. Some are happy to follow the governments appointed leader, others like to read as much info as they can and decide what is best for their specific circumstance. It really is not that difficult to read several different studies and viewpoints. Even someone whose standard is to follow Fauci (Blessed be Fauci) reads the study (true only one) and decide to go with it. He/she does not actually duplicate the study.

golfing eagles 10-04-2021 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2012832)
Or someone can look at studies performed in the UK, Israel and the US, take that data, compare the results and if they differ use his own common sense to decide which is best for him.
If they held at least a masters degree in mathematics, with a concentration in statistics and experience collating data from multiple scientific and medical studies, I would be inclined to give that person credibility.

Anyone relying on their own "common sense" is deluding themselves

PS: I can prescribe the appropriate medication for a person suffering from such a delusion:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

PPS: I have no idea why I get dragged into debates with rank amateurs

Wyseguy 10-04-2021 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012837)
If they held at least a masters degree in mathematics, with a concentration in statistics and experience collating data from multiple scientific and medical studies, I would be inclined to give that person credibility.

Anyone relying on their own "common sense" is deluding themselves

PS: I can prescribe the appropriate medication for a person suffering from such a delusion:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

PPS: I have no idea why I get dragged into debates with rank amateurs
Were you dragged? Seems like you charge in on your own will. I will not "hint" at my degrees, that is so common and sophomoric .

kenoc7 10-04-2021 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2012126)
My eyes were opened today as I picked up my son at Orlando's MCO airport. We entered the airport unaware that masks are required. We were among the few that were unmasked. No one challenged us but we honestly did not know. Last time we were there in April that requirement did not exist.

We then went to Mallory country club for dinner and no one was wearing a mask.

Today I read that the Phizor Covid vaccination are quickly losing their effectiveness after 6 months Wasn't the delay in getting approval due to FDA requirements to insure that longer range effectiveness was achieved? Is this the same as Moderna and J & J?

Is the Booster shot approved by FDA? How long is it effective.

Is actual occurrence of COVID 19 providing better protection than the inoculations? If so , why does that not allow for continuance of work rather than firing for not getting inoculation?

Not a lot of clear informed instruction and communication.
If you didn't know masks are required in airports you must have been living under a rock.

Booster is available for those over 65.

Crossing the border from Canada to the USA is like being in two different worlds - masks in Canada, few masks in the USA. I know the world I prefer!

Two Bills 10-04-2021 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2012790)
Can you tell me some of his false claims?
World depopulation plot springs to mind.

golfing eagles 10-04-2021 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2012841)
Were you dragged? Seems like you charge in on your own will. I will not "hint" at my degrees, that is so common and sophomoric .
Oh please, be common and sophomoric. I'm sure most of those who posted on this thread would be interested in the qualifications needed to make some of the statements that were made. Or is it all "common sense"?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 10-04-2021 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012783)
Please post that 1,000 times for the _________(fill in the blank) who think it is better to get the disease.
I don't think it's better to get the disease, even though I contracted Covid (from a patient), some 20 months ago... When the vaccine came out (almost a year later), after consulting with my physician, I went ahead and had the two shots (Moderna).

But I do think my natural antibodies will last longer and be more effective than the vaccine (per the Israeli studies)...

I was luck. I had an EXTREMELY mild case (only 36 hrs of a low grade (99.5°) fever, mild body aches, chills and a slight cough). I was tired for a few days afterwards.

Even with that, I would never suggest that it's better to roll the dice and get Covid, rather than get the vaccine...

Will I get a booster? I dunno'... I'll see what the literature shows when and if Moderna is approved for a booster shot...

JMintzer 10-04-2021 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012775)
Res ipsa loquitur
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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2012798)
Sapere aude
In Vino Veratis

But what do I know? It's all Greek to me... :icon_wink:

golfing eagles 10-04-2021 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2012850)
In Vino Veratis

But what do I know? It's all Greek to me... :icon_wink:
Latin:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

(I know you knew that)

JMintzer 10-04-2021 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012837)
If they held at least a masters degree in mathematics, with a concentration in statistics and experience collating data from multiple scientific and medical studies, I would be inclined to give that person credibility.

Anyone relying on their own "common sense" is deluding themselves

PS: I can prescribe the appropriate medication for a person suffering from such a delusion:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

PPS: I have no idea why I get dragged into debates with rank amateurs
Please, I am a "Commisioned" Amateur! I have the stripes and the hardware to prove it! :1rotfl:

JMintzer 10-04-2021 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012851)
Latin:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

(I know you knew that)
But did I? :highfive:

Wyseguy 10-04-2021 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2012848)
Oh please, be common and sophomoric. I'm sure most of those who posted on this thread would be interested in the qualifications needed to make some of the statements that were made. Or is it all "common sense"?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
My experience has shown me degrees do not automatically give one common sense. Some of the most foolish people I ever met were in my post graduate studies, while my greatest influence had only a HS diploma. You can have all of the education in the world, but without sense you can end up being a danger to yourself and others. I will leave out the basic silly memes.

golfing eagles 10-04-2021 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2012852)
Please, I am a "Commisioned" Amateur! I have the stripes and the hardware to prove it! :1rotfl:
And you're a surgeon with a doctorate. I think that trumps some of the rather ignorant posts that some have made.


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