Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2126902)

You mean, speculating that we share a common ancestor.

The theory of evolution goes back to fish climbing out of the sea and eventually becoming human. Where is the proof that a fish became a mammal?

A two percent difference is all that is needed to be a different species.

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2126616)

hi,
the theory of evolution has never been proven. There is no missing link. Yet we teach it in schools. Why? In Darwins book, he left a bail out to his theory. It was the one thing he could not answer and he admitted it would be proof his conclusions were incorrect. Pre Cambrian fossils showed no signs of evolution to explain the over abundance of many animals in fossils in the Cambrian period. Animals just showed up out of nowhere in the Cambrian period. Why do we continue to believe this incorrect theory as well as aliens, Bigfoot, and the Loch Ness monster. Are we all that dumb or are we just looking for entertainment. Regardless, Darwins theory should not be taught in schools as it is not fact. Just tell them we don't know. We have enough fiction in the world today. Science is fact not fictional theories.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2126623)

So is the choice between evolution and creation? Did things "just happen" and then bumbled along haphazardly from there, resulting in the world we have today? Sorry, I don't buy it. The reason is as follows.

"Most people know about DNA (aka deoxyribonucleic acid) as the molecule that holds the information, i.e. the genetic codes, within our bodies. What some people don’t realise is that this equates to a seriously large amount of information being stored within a single biomolecule. DNA molecules can store up to 215 petabytes, or 215 million gigabytes, of data in a single doubled stranded molecule, making it one of the highest storage density mediums in the world. Simply put, the information storage devices within our bodies are much more capable than we can currently create, so there has been a lot of focus in trying to harness the power and data storage capabilities of DNA for our own man-made data storage systems." (Electro pages: storing information and data with DNA). ONE petabyte contains 500 billion pages of standard printed text. Multiply that by 215... I am not sure I can comprehend a number that large. That number is contained in a "database" if you can call it that, that exists on a submicroscopic level. Asking somebody to believe that that "just happened" is beyond ludicrous. The watch proves the existence of the watchmaker

That said, I'm not convinced that the fossil record is solid proof of anything. So few living things become fossils; conditions have to be just right for fossilization to happen. I recall hearing something recently that may be one in 100,000 animals or plants become fossils, and even with the ones that do become fossils, there is no guarantee that they will be found, or that they will not be destroyed in some natural event such as a flood, volcano, or whatever. To me, expecting the fossil record to be a reliable chronology of development is like depending on a calendar with maybe five numbers on it to be the reliable chronology of the number of days in a decade.

But we can use reasoning. We know, or think we know, two things. Fossils exist, and the earth changes. Oftentimes those changes in the earth are widespread and drastic. Assuming the existence of a creator God, we can also assume intelligence and foreknowledge on the part of that God. If God created the physical environment to change, as it does, then is it not reasonable to assume that God also provided the life he created to adapt according to the changes of the physical environment? Again, assuming the existence of that God, the answer cannot be no. The proof is that we are here.

I have never seen evolution versus creation as an either/or thing. In my mind they exist together working perfectly in tandem. They always have.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2126626)

They probably teach evolution because they've found "missing links" for nearly every line -- from humans to horses, to sharks, to whales, to aardvarks and dinosaurs. It's a "theory" the same way gravity is just a "theory". The proof is so obvious and everywhere that that you need to invent a religion in order to ignore it.

What's really amazing, is the incredible string of coincidences that must occur in order to preserve a fossil. I'm astounded that we have even one fossil of Lucy -- our ape-man "missing link" ancestor known as Australopithecus. In fact, we have dozens of examples. It's yet another example of the ludicrous impossibility of our universe.

And it's yet more evidence that our universe was engineered by a bored deity, and not the result of rolling a seven umpteen trillion times.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2126636)

I am amazed that a human being can watch a virus evolve from deadly to harmless in a mere three years, and still claim that there is no proof for the "theory" of evolution.

And I am amazed that a human being can understand that the same virus is comprised of the same chains of the same proteins found in a human cell nucleus, and yet, insist that we have no common ancestor with that virus -- because when Darwin first noticed evolution and described it in 1859, he didn't include all the answers to every question about evolution in his book.

And I am astounded that the same person will then point to his Holy Book, which was written 3,000 years before the discovery of DNA, and tell you that evolution cannot possibly be true because it is not mentioned in his 3,000-year-old Holy Book. He'll then go on to tell you that there has not been enough time for evolution to work because the Universe is only 6,000 years old. He knows this because he added up the ages of all the people mentioned in his Holy Book, and that's the number he got.

Simply astounding!

Originally Posted by Berwin (Post 2127106)

Even the Pope has said that evolution is a fact.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2126626)

They probably teach evolution because they've found "missing links" for nearly every line -- from humans to horses, to sharks, to whales, to aardvarks and dinosaurs. It's a "theory" the same way gravity is just a "theory". The proof is so obvious and everywhere that that you need to invent a religion in order to ignore it.

What's really amazing, is the incredible string of coincidences that must occur in order to preserve a fossil. I'm astounded that we have even one fossil of Lucy -- our ape-man "missing link" ancestor known as Australopithecus. In fact, we have dozens of examples. It's yet another example of the ludicrous impossibility of our universe.

And it's yet more evidence that our universe was engineered by a bored deity, and not the result of rolling a seven umpteen trillion times.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2126662)

Why do we need a deep thinkers two?

Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2126678)

Taught in schools? "Science is fact not fictional theories." So much Science taught in schools is not fact but SPUN current thought. We all know the earth is flat and the planets revolve around the earth. Much of education is indoctrination. Few teachers are educated enough, bright enough or have the time to discuss these things.

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave (Post 2126711)

I feel like I walked into a mensa meeting.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2126695)

Yes, viruses can evolve. And species can evolve but there has never been any absolute proof of one species evolving into another.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2126701)

I think that is just semantics. Who has the authority to elevate a theory into a law?

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2126963)

Hmmmmm.

Say that the poster was not an MD, but instead a mechanic: the guy who fixes complicated automobiles about which we rank-and-filers know little or nothing. Would that mechanic be justified in believing that the complicated machinery upon which he works "just happened", or would he have to admit that, at some point along the evolution of machinery, there had to be some sort of intelligent design?

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave (Post 2126711)

I feel like I walked into a mensa meeting.