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HimandMe 10-28-2019 11:47 AM

Nope. When journalists ceased being journalists and became activists it ruined everything.

OhioBuckeye 10-28-2019 11:51 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1690553)
I find it harder everyday to watch any news. I have lost my trust in most things they report. Is this just me?

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Well I get tired of hearing about all the finger pointing at each other in the govt. Because that’s about all you hear. Or it’s about all the shootings and assaults that’s going on, but I understand we do need to know that for our own protection in case it’s in our community. Just wish we could hear something positive! Makes me feel like there’s nothing to look forward to. I agree with you totally!

mills3186 10-28-2019 11:53 AM

It's important to watch/read several different sources so you can be fully informed. We tend to align ourselves with certain ways of thinking, when we hear things to the contrary it can be hard to accept. Neither accept everything you hear or read nor jump to the conclusion it's fake news when it conflicts with your views. Back in the day, we rarely questioned the news as it was presented, "and that's the way it is..."

UHH47 10-28-2019 11:54 AM

There is no NEWS on tv, only political agendas.

HimandMe 10-28-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1690899)
I find it absolutely ridiculous that many people claim MSNBC is biased, but accept as fact everything on Fox News. On the other hand alleging Fox News is biased but everything on MSNBC is gospel is equally ludicrous. Those outlets have a blatant bias for the most part, should never be accepted as the home of virtue. I read the Kansas City Star and the Washington Post online. I also read some articles posted on MSN. There are so many online "news" outlets that cannot be trusted. I think the ONION is more reliable than many of them. The president admitted in an interview a couple years ago that he railed against the mainstream media so that wen they said bad things about him his supporters would not believe it. Dangerous stuff my friends!

Look for results. What is actually being done and what is just a matter of mouthing off or worse blameshifting.

Taltarzac725 10-28-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1691685)
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Well I get tired of hearing about all the finger pointing at each other in the govt. Because that’s about all you hear. Or it’s about all the shootings and assaults that’s going on, but I understand we do need to know that for our own protection in case it’s in our community. Just wish we could hear something positive! Makes me feel like there’s nothing to look forward to. I agree with you totally!

On The Road With Steve Hartman | CBS Evening News - YouTube

Many of these stories by Steve Hartman are quite positive and fun. He is often on in the last segment of CBS Evening News on Fridays.

Civicar 10-28-2019 12:41 PM

If you truly want to be informed by TV News
 
Regardless of your party affiliation or orientation, [U][B]please watch all 3 major news channels (Fox, CNN, MSNBC), then make up your mind on issues. We only know what they feed us and each one has their slant. Watching news has become like listening to music on Pandora, if you only like "country music" that is all it will play for you.

It is not a coincidence that Republicans listen to Fox, Democrats listen to MSNBC and those in the middle listen to CNN. Years ago everyone listened to the same 6 pm News and got the same info. Now, none of the stations report ALL of what you need to know to make an informed decision. That is why we are so polarized politically than we have ever been. Please do yourself and our country a favor and tune in to all 3 channels and then you will understand why not everyone thinks like you and also perhaps get more of a full picture on important issues and political developments. Be fully informed before casting your votes

Bucco 10-28-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1691673)
Seems kind of a simplistic take on the media.

RIGHT ON.

We do not talk ISSUES any longer....it seems to be all about assaulting others.

If we really honestly cared bout the issues in our country, we would not tolerate ignoring our economy, guns, intrusion into our countries basics from outside

Media will play a video from a newsmaker.......newsmaker says, despite the obvious that they never said that.....suddenly the story is the media and the basic beginning of whatever was the point is now lost and we argue over the coverage and simply ignore the basic issue involved.

I guess that ploy is working because discussing the media or trashing those in the media seems to be the mainstay. Instead of issues, we just blame media.

Many months ago, almost all of our leaders in both houses of congress were calling for gun control. There was one sweeping bill passed, two more in the wings depending on the outcome of the first....all about, i think, widening the scope of background checks. THAT was passed right after the first of the year. ALL silent, no vote on the single bill passed. We are guilty, NOT the legislators for allowing this to happen. YET, we debate only headlines, NOT NEWS, or perceptions of things not founded in any facts day after day.

This thread was begun with a premise about whether to believe the news, yet we ignore the factual discussion and instead attack headline writers, etc, instead of discussing actual news.

news is fine but it is, as Tal has suggested, we ignore what we want in any case and go for the easy way.

Bucco 10-28-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Civicar (Post 1691700)
Regardless of your party affiliation or orientation, [U][B]please watch all 3 major news channels (Fox, CNN, MSNBC), then make up your mind on issues. We only know what they feed us and each one has their slant. Watching news has become like listening to music on Pandora, if you only like "country music" that is all it will play for you.

It is not a coincidence that Republicans listen to Fox, Democrats listen to MSNBC and those in the middle listen to CNN. Years ago everyone listened to the same 6 pm News and got the same info. Now, none of the stations report ALL of what you need to know to make an informed decision. That is why we are so polarized politically than we have ever been. Please do yourself and our country a favor and tune in to all 3 channels and then you will understand why not everyone thinks like you and also perhaps get more of a full picture on important issues and political developments. Be fully informed before casting your votes

You are correct, and by the way....politicians know this and play to everything you said

Nucky 10-28-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1691617)
And that is why no news is good news.

Don't be discouraged Bay Kid. You started a fantastic thread. :mademyday: I appreciate your thoughts. Some of our fellow residents just love to spin anything they read. Some claim age as a factor when it's convenient or needed to cover their tracks. Some are just miserable. Some cry about unkind words from others yet spread them themselves on a regular basis. Some hide behind the love of their Children and Grandchildren when needed to make a point. You know maybe these Posters are the people on The Newscasts??

I have to admit that my Channel of Choice has burnt me out so I changed to their competition for a while and then changed back. There is very little good news nowadays. It seems to be on a swivel. Somedays great Somedays bad. Not the news, the reporting.

You asked for people's opinions am I correct? So how can anyone do anything except giving their opinion instead of ripping other people's opinions and statements to shreds? Who gave them the power to be the teacher?

That's the sad thing. Spin, Spin, Spin!

The Piper 10-28-2019 01:45 PM

Being an Informed Citizen Takes Work
 
Media is a very large landscape so it's important to be a "healthy skeptic" when it comes to news. Never before has information been weaponized like it is today. When you have the "leader" of the free world constantly labeling journalists as "enemy of the people," it's easy to understand why many people are confused. Still, journalism is the only protected business (First Amendment) for a reason. The Founding Fathers knew that if Congress or the Courts failed to check the power of the Executive Branch, it would fall to the press (or Fourth Estate) to hold truth to power. That's why this is a critical time for journalists to pursue the truth even when it's unpopular to do so. It's also important for consumers to question sources and challenge information they see and hear from news services or TV stations. I prefer print though most of my reading comes from online sources. I specifically don't trust talking heads who appear after 6 p.m. as "personalities" who are driven by ratings and not news. Trust doesn't mean that reporters from the Washington Post, N.Y. Times, Axios, The Atlantic or Vox don't makes mistakes. They do. The difference is that reporters from these outlets admit to errors and try to learn from them (or they are fired). Others are motivated only by providing information that confirms the bias of those who watch. Being truly informed (rather than entertained) takes work, time, and effort. And it's never been more important.

Bucco 10-28-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Piper (Post 1691720)
Media is a very large landscape so it's important to be a "healthy skeptic" when it comes to news. Never before has information been weaponized like it is today. When you have the "leader" of the free world constantly labeling journalists as "enemy of the people," it's easy to understand why many people are confused. Still, journalism is the only protected business (First Amendment) for a reason. The Founding Fathers knew that if Congress or the Courts failed to check the power of the Executive Branch, it would fall to the press (or Fourth Estate) to hold truth to power. That's why this is a critical time for journalists to pursue the truth even when it's unpopular to do so. It's also important for consumers to question sources and challenge information they see and hear from news services or TV stations. I prefer print though most of my reading comes from online sources. I specifically don't trust talking heads who appear after 6 p.m. as "personalities" who are driven by ratings and not news. Trust doesn't mean that reporters from the Washington Post, N.Y. Times, Axios, The Atlantic or Vox don't makes mistakes. They do. The difference is that reporters from these outlets admit to errors and try to learn from them (or they are fired). Others are motivated only by providing information that confirms the bias of those who watch. Being truly informed (rather than entertained) takes work, time, and effort. And it's never been more important.

You are correct, and right on time it seems.

The post prior to yours takes the tac that is popular today. Those who offer constructive opinions are attacking others or some other name. Just another way to demean and trivialize your points which are very valid.

When you disagree with someone, that is not defined as ripping another opinion. It is defined as DISAGREEING and that is great.....on the issues and with some creds.. Two or more points of view and discussion is vital to all of us and always has been.

HimandMe 10-28-2019 01:56 PM

There is a real opportunity for a new station to arrive on the scene with honest non-biased journalists. So many are sick of the way it is. One party used to sharpen the other. Big government politics vs. small government. They can start there. The universities we partly fund don’t help as they too have blatant prejudices and are turning out activist journalists. I believe most people just want facts, not facts with an agenda. People need to cry out loudly for this. We are One people, diverse, different and that should be a good thing as we all can learn. As it is now, it is a house divided and that should scare us.

And, for those in office, it’s time when they pass laws that they are not exempt from them. If we can live with it, so can they with a few necessary exceptions of course.

Nucky 10-28-2019 01:59 PM

Disagreeing and Spinning are two different things. Some people have it down to an Art Form. I think I'll take all the news and make up my own mind but I will never ever listen to one of the news channels. NEVER! Spin Away! I love News, I just watch too much of it! OK, it's all yours. Teach me where I'm wrong he said to no one in particular! Maybe it's my YOUT (Fred Gywnn & Joe Pesci) that makes even my OPINION never correct! It doesn't matter I answered the OP'S question.

Radec52 10-28-2019 02:15 PM

When you realize that all programming exists so you will view the advertisements, it is easier to understand why strictly factual news is rare.


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