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Madelaine Amee 10-28-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Piper (Post 1691720)
Media is a very large landscape so it's important to be a "healthy skeptic" when it comes to news. Never before has information been weaponized like it is today. When you have the "leader" of the free world constantly labeling journalists as "enemy of the people," it's easy to understand why many people are confused. Still, journalism is the only protected business (First Amendment) for a reason. The Founding Fathers knew that if Congress or the Courts failed to check the power of the Executive Branch, it would fall to the press (or Fourth Estate) to hold truth to power. That's why this is a critical time for journalists to pursue the truth even when it's unpopular to do so. It's also important for consumers to question sources and challenge information they see and hear from news services or TV stations. I prefer print though most of my reading comes from online sources. I specifically don't trust talking heads who appear after 6 p.m. as "personalities" who are driven by ratings and not news. Trust doesn't mean that reporters from the Washington Post, N.Y. Times, Axios, The Atlantic or Vox don't makes mistakes. They do. The difference is that reporters from these outlets admit to errors and try to learn from them (or they are fired). Others are motivated only by providing information that confirms the bias of those who watch. Being truly informed (rather than entertained) takes work, time, and effort. And it's never been more important.

I listened this afternoon to Richard Engel reporting from Syria on the killing of Baghdaddi and how it was accomplished. It actually is somewhat different from what we are being told either by the news sources or from the White House. To have finally found this very terrible person and to have finished him off should be the whole story, it does not need spinning by either side - but spin it they will and we are left to fact search the truth for ourselves.

diane reynolds 10-28-2019 02:32 PM

news
 
It is up to the consumer of news to apply critical thinking skills for accuracy. I also have begun to believe only what I actually hear coming from someone's mouth---like trump and his tweets. I recently was able to visit Bears Ears and Escalante National Monuments which Sierra Club had reported were being diminished in size by Trump and I saw for myself and talked to Park Rangers about it and found it to be true. Trump has shrunk both monuments. I also traveled to Homestead, FL and looked over a fence into one of the camps for immigrant children and saw the conditions for myself. It takes research and time to find the truth, but it is possible.

Bucco 10-28-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1691729)
I listened this afternoon to Richard Engel reporting from Syria on the killing of Baghdaddi and how it was accomplished. It actually is somewhat different from what we are being told either by the news sources or from the White House. To have finally found this very terrible person and to have finished him off should be the whole story, it does not need spinning by either side - but spin it they will and we are left to fact search the truth for ourselves.

First of all, Richard Engel is fantastic. He knows of what he speaks and his presentation is also great.

Yes, the story of the killing of a very bad person should have been the entire story, and in my opinion would have been had it had just been an announcement but so much was added and it overshadowed the story.

Bucco 10-28-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by diane reynolds (Post 1691732)
It is up to the consumer of news to apply critical thinking skills for accuracy. I also have begun to believe only what I actually hear coming from someone's mouth---like trump and his tweets. I recently was able to visit Bears Ears and Escalante National Monuments which Sierra Club had reported were being diminished in size by Trump and I saw for myself and talked to Park Rangers about it and found it to be true. Trump has shrunk both monuments. I also traveled to Homestead, FL and looked over a fence into one of the camps for immigrant children and saw the conditions for myself. It takes research and time to find the truth, but it is possible.

So correct and spot on. Research would actually open eyes as to just a sampling of what is actually happening.

Not a conspiracy theory, but from experience discussing them specifically and giving links are not allowed. And the subject is news....your post is spot on, and way back on this thread there was a post referring to news that goes unreported. Reported but overshadowed.

mikemalloy 10-28-2019 05:16 PM

The "press" is given Constitutional protection because they are supposed to be the watchdog of the people. They make a mockery of that protection when they are the lapdog of a political group.

anothersteve 10-28-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 1691763)
The "press" is given Constitutional protection because they are supposed to be the watchdog of the people. They make a mockery of that protection when they are the lapdog of a political group.

Interesting point
Steve

anothersteve 10-28-2019 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1691640)
Not sure about your adjectives, but yes......that is how mature adults run business.

As to your little adjective used, have you ever checked the source of that particular phrase ? Interesting to read

ALSO.....since the title and subject of this thread is NEWS. Other than a very ill advised headline, were any actual FACTS reported in correctly based on your reading.

OK...........you lost me with your edit.
Steve

TexaninVA 10-28-2019 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1691597)
Washington Post's headline called Baghdadi an "austere religious scholar at the helm of Islamic State". Before it was retracted.

Steve

Describing Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi as an “austere religious scholar” is not related to so-called fake news or bias etc.

Rather, it’s WaPo’s unwillingness to accurately describe who he was.

He was the epitome … literally … of a Radical Is*lamic Terrorist, which is a largely forbidden term.

He was the Caliph (i.e combination of a Pope & King) who was the head guy for ISIS (Is*lamic State of Iraq and Syria). Hence, the WaPo simply chose to deliberately obfuscate who he was.

Great job by the US military and intel community by the way. I especially liked the “hero dog.” That snarling dog’s face was the last thing the Baghdadi saw on this earth and likely is what prompted him to hit the detonator.

jebartle 10-29-2019 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Piper (Post 1691720)
Media is a very large landscape so it's important to be a "healthy skeptic" when it comes to news. Never before has information been weaponized like it is today. When you have the "leader" of the free world constantly labeling journalists as "enemy of the people," it's easy to understand why many people are confused. Still, journalism is the only protected business (First Amendment) for a reason. The Founding Fathers knew that if Congress or the Courts failed to check the power of the Executive Branch, it would fall to the press (or Fourth Estate) to hold truth to power. That's why this is a critical time for journalists to pursue the truth even when it's unpopular to do so. It's also important for consumers to question sources and challenge information they see and hear from news services or TV stations. I prefer print though most of my reading comes from online sources. I specifically don't trust talking heads who appear after 6 p.m. as "personalities" who are driven by ratings and not news. Trust doesn't mean that reporters from the Washington Post, N.Y. Times, Axios, The Atlantic or Vox don't makes mistakes. They do. The difference is that reporters from these outlets admit to errors and try to learn from them (or they are fired). Others are motivated only by providing information that confirms the bias of those who watch. Being truly informed (rather than entertained) takes work, time, and effort. And it's never been more important.

Good post, maybe what we need is a show called FACT CHECK, that actually does just THAT!

graciegirl 10-29-2019 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1691714)

This thread was begun with a premise about whether to believe the news, yet we ignore the factual discussion and instead attack headline writers, etc, instead of discussing actual news.

Here is a screen shot of the headlines this morning on my computer screen, which is where I think most people read the news.

Bogie Shooter 10-29-2019 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1691838)
Good post, maybe what we need is a show called FACT CHECK, that actually does just THAT!

FactCheck.org - A Project of The Annenberg Public Policy Center

Bucco 10-29-2019 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1691864)

Thanks for the link, but it is bit unfair of you to confuse so many with factual information.

linda.gnov@gmail.com 10-29-2019 08:22 AM

Except for store coupons
 
Waste of money to buy the Village Sun....not really the news...just all the pleasant.....this place is so awesome news...in order to SELL MORE HOUSES.

Bogie Shooter 10-29-2019 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by linda.gnov@gmail.com (Post 1691894)
Waste of money to buy the Village Sun....not really the news...just all the pleasant.....this place is so awesome news...in order to SELL MORE HOUSES.

Did you buy?

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kayak 10-29-2019 08:51 AM

My favorite news source is The Patriot Post. I signed up for their daily email so I get my news right to my inbox. This is the one I trust.
You can search for them on the web.


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