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janmcn 10-24-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cologal (Post 957432)
The difference is those people were put into a 21 day isolation period but travelled anyway. This doctor was NOT in mandated isolation!! He did do follow the procedure for medical workers who return home by taking his temperature twice day and reported the fever when it was only 100.3.

Please don't bash our medical hero's.....

The doctor also had not returned to his job as an emergency room doctor at New York's Presbyterian Hospital during the ten day period since his return from Guinea.

maddie101 10-24-2014 09:24 AM

He Should have been in mandated isolation in my opinion.

Sandtrap328 10-24-2014 09:33 AM

I am wondering if ALL the posters on this thread have had their flu shot for the 2014-15 flu season - and if those over 65 had the "high dosage" flu shot.

It would also be beneficial to make sure your pneumonia shot is up to date.

We are at a much higher chance of being infected with one of those than ebola.

I have had my flu shot!

cologal 10-24-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by maddie101 (Post 957450)
He Should have been in mandated isolation in my opinion.

Are you a medical professional? Expert in communicable diseases?

janmcn 10-24-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by maddie101 (Post 957450)
He Should have been in mandated isolation in my opinion.


Do you check with your Villages' doctors to see if they have recently been in Western Africa, when making an appointment? That might be a good idea.

janmcn 10-24-2014 10:53 AM

Nina Pham, RN, has been declared free of the Ebola virus and will be released from the hospital today. This according to the National Institute of Health, where she has been undergoing treatment.

Amber Vincent, RN, was cured of the disease earlier this week, according to Emory University Hospital.

Ashoka Mukpo, the freelance photojournalist employed by NBC, has also been cured and released from the hospital in Nebraska.

kittygilchrist 10-24-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 957508)
Nina Pham, RN, has been declared free of the Ebola virus and will be released from the hospital today. This according to the National Institute of Health, where she has been undergoing treatment.

Amber Vincent, RN, was cured of the disease earlier this week, according to Emory University Hospital.

Ashoka Mukpo, the freelance photojournalist employed by NBC, has also been cured and released from the hospital in Nebraska.

All good news, and i am thankful. Early dx and tx. Happy to know this.

janmcn 10-24-2014 01:15 PM

Obama Meets With Dallas Nurse Cured Of Ebola (PHOTOS)


Here's a link to a photo taken just a short time ago of Nina Pham meeting with President Obama at the White House right after her release from the National Institute of Health in Bethesda, MD. She looks very happy and very healthy.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/2...6pLid%3D551649

More photos of this happy, happy day for Nurse Nina Pham and her family and the staff who treated her at NIH, as well as the staff at her hospital in Dallas. Plus her dog is doing well and will certainly be happy to see Nina again.

graciegirl 10-24-2014 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=cologal;957432]The difference is those people were put into a 21 day isolation period but travelled anyway. This doctor was NOT in mandated isolation!! He did do follow the procedure for medical workers who return home by taking his temperature twice day and reported the fever when it was only 100.3.

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He stopped being a hero to ME when he didn't keep himself away from others. If his fiancé' was YOUR daughter, I would think you would be quite nervous. I NEVER expect anyone else to do something that I wouldn't do myself.

THERE is no cure, as I said. Apparently the body can fight it off, but only in a very small percentage of cases. Keeping the body hydrated is just about the only support that can be given, along with steroids. That isn't a medical cure, it is plain old cussed luck.

And Sandtrap, yes, I. like most people, have my flu shot, my pneumonia shot and my shot for Herpes Zoster. Those kinds of things are not deadly to the overwhelming percentage of the population even if contracted.

The New England Journal of Medicine says that Ebola is deadly in 70 to 90 percentage of cases.

So YES Sandtrap, at this time YOU are in no danger, but the potential for danger is there. I hope you win and you can gloat. I so hope it.

graciegirl 10-24-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 957611)
Another typical TOTV thread filled with mis information brought to you by the "usual suspects" who are experts on everything.


What mis-information and what experts and what "usual suspects", bimmertl? WHAT DO YOU MEAN????





Eight days ago this from the
New England Journal of Medicine.
OCTOBER 16,2014
Ebola Virus Disease in West Africa — The First 9 Months of the Epidemic and Forward Projections

WHO Ebola Response Team
N Engl J Med 2014; 371:1481-1495October 16, 2014DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa1411100
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AbstractArticleReferencesCiting Articles (2) Comments (14)
Background

On March 23, 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) was notified of an outbreak of Ebola virus disease (EVD) in Guinea. On August 8, the WHO declared the epidemic to be a “public health emergency of international concern.”
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Methods

By September 14, 2014, a total of 4507 probable and confirmed cases, including 2296 deaths from EVD (Zaire species) had been reported from five countries in West Africa — Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal, and Sierra Leone. We analyzed a detailed subset of data on 3343 confirmed and 667 probable Ebola cases collected in Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone as of September 14.
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Results

The majority of patients are 15 to 44 years of age (49.9% male), and we estimate that the case fatality rate is 70.8% (95% confidence interval [CI], 69 to 73) among persons with known clinical outcome of infection. The course of infection, including signs and symptoms, incubation period (11.4 days), and serial interval (15.3 days), is similar to that reported in previous outbreaks of EVD. On the basis of the initial periods of exponential growth, the estimated basic reproduction numbers (R0 ) are 1.71 (95% CI, 1.44 to 2.01) for Guinea, 1.83 (95% CI, 1.72 to 1.94) for Liberia, and 2.02 (95% CI, 1.79 to 2.26) for Sierra Leone. The estimated current reproduction numbers (R) are 1.81 (95% CI, 1.60 to 2.03) for Guinea, 1.51 (95% CI, 1.41 to 1.60) for Liberia, and 1.38 (95% CI, 1.27 to 1.51) for Sierra Leone; the corresponding doubling times are 15.7 days (95% CI, 12.9 to 20.3) for Guinea, 23.6 days (95% CI, 20.2 to 28.2) for Liberia, and 30.2 days (95% CI, 23.6 to 42.3) for Sierra Leone. Assuming no change in the control measures for this epidemic, by November 2, 2014, the cumulative reported numbers of confirmed and probable cases are predicted to be 5740 in Guinea, 9890 in Liberia, and 5000 in Sierra Leone, exceeding 20,000 in total.
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Conclusions

These data indicate that without drastic improvements in control measures, the numbers of cases of and deaths from EVD are expected to continue increasing from hundreds to thousands per week in the coming months.
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pivo 10-24-2014 03:00 PM

I wonder who she would be thing of hee hee

Barefoot 10-24-2014 04:28 PM

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janmcn 10-24-2014 05:29 PM

Ebola-Exposed Fliers to Be Quarantined by New York, New Jersey - Bloomberg

New York and New Jersey will quarantine any arriving passengers who had direct contact with Ebola patients. This announcement was made today by the governors of these states. The quarantine will last 21 days. Not too many other details in this Bloomberg View article.

graciegirl 10-24-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 957723)
ebola-exposed fliers to be quarantined by new york, new jersey - bloomberg

new york and new jersey will quarantine any arriving passengers who had direct contact with ebola patients. This announcement was made today by the governors of these states. The quarantine will last 21 days. Not too many other details in this bloomberg view article.

That seems like the safe thing to do. Kudos to them.

sunnyatlast 10-24-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 957723)
Ebola-Exposed Fliers to Be Quarantined by New York, New Jersey - Bloomberg

New York and New Jersey will quarantine any arriving passengers who had direct contact with Ebola patients. This announcement was made today by the governors of these states. The quarantine will last 21 days. Not too many other details in this Bloomberg View article.

It says this:
"Others who travel from the region and haven’t had direct contact with virus patients will be actively monitored and quarantined only if necessary, they said."
So, just like Duncan (RIP), they can lie and say they didn't have any direct contact with virus patients.

The only way to know where these travelers have been before leaving the African country is to make them wear a GPS ankle bracelet for 3 weeks before getting onto the plane.

In fact, everybody coming into this country from the afflicted countries should wear a monitored ankle bracelet, since both a licensed RN and the dr. in NY--highly educated and intelligent people--didn't think it posed a problem to get onto the plane flights and 4 subway lines in NYC, and more.

People are going to lie rather than be confined for 3 weeks.


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