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janmcn 10-24-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 957773)
It says this:
"Others who travel from the region and haven’t had direct contact with virus patients will be actively monitored and quarantined only if necessary, they said."
So, just like Duncan (RIP), they can lie and say they didn't have any direct contact with virus patients.

The only way to know where these travelers have been before leaving the African country is to make them wear a GPS ankle bracelet for 3 weeks before getting onto the plane.

In fact, everybody coming into this country from the afflicted countries should wear a monitored ankle bracelet, since both a licensed RN and the dr. in NY--highly educated and intelligent people--didn't think it posed a problem to get onto the plane flights and 4 subway lines in NYC, and more.

People are going to lie rather than be confined for 3 weeks.

All good ideas. Have you forwarded these suggestions to anyone who could put them into action?

Another arrival in Newark has shown symptoms of Ebola tonight.

sunnyatlast 10-24-2014 08:28 PM

This article says the Newark patient was admitted to University Hospital in Newark.

Now. I'm just a citizen with a bachelor's degree.

But I don't see why they didn't take her over to Bellevue Hospital where the infected doctor already is a patient, so they contaminate ONE major hospital, materials, waste disposal systems and staff, instead of two.

Govs Cuomo and Christie are together on this and both have said it straight:

Cuomo: "Voluntary quarantine? NO! It's almost an oxymoron….."

Newark Passenger Who Worked With Ebola Patients Develops Fever

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cologal 10-24-2014 08:42 PM

Gracie.....

We all due respect there is a new drug called ZMAPP, I believe that all of the US patients have been given that drug and all 3 survived. In addition the blood of a person who has survived provides needed antibodies. I also read that women who have been cured are now serving as nurses to children infected as these people cannot be reinfected.

US requests production plans for Ebola drug ZMapp | Fox News

As for the doctor I believe he did follow the guidelines for medical personnel returning from that area. If this my daughter I would not be worried because this man was not symptomatic. He took his temp twice a day and reported the fever at 100.3.

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Originally Posted by cologal (Post 957432)
The difference is those people were put into a 21 day isolation period but travelled anyway. This doctor was NOT in mandated isolation!! He did do follow the procedure for medical workers who return home by taking his temperature twice day and reported the fever when it was only 100.3.

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He stopped being a hero to ME when he didn't keep himself away from others. If his fiancé' was YOUR daughter, I would think you would be quite nervous. I NEVER expect anyone else to do something that I wouldn't do myself.

THERE is no cure, as I said. Apparently the body can fight it off, but only in a very small percentage of cases. Keeping the body hydrated is just about the only support that can be given, along with steroids. That isn't a medical cure, it is plain old cussed luck.

And Sandtrap, yes, I. like most people, have my flu shot, my pneumonia shot and my shot for Herpes Zoster. Those kinds of things are not deadly to the overwhelming percentage of the population even if contracted.

The New England Journal of Medicine says that Ebola is deadly in 70 to 90 percentage of cases.

So YES Sandtrap, at this time YOU are in no danger, but the potential for danger is there. I hope you win and you can gloat. I so hope it.


graciegirl 10-24-2014 09:31 PM

AND how about the "limbo" time between the temperature taking when the fever starts beginning to rise and the little varmints begin to grow and come to the mucosa..... You see I have been a mother and I know how to worry.

A person can become cured by surviving the virus but there is not at this time a medication that can be called a cure. Blood transfusions from people that survive have been effective and zmapp is being used but has not been in a clinical trial.
ZMapp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If it were my daughter, I would be terribly worried. And a man can have the live Evola virus in semen for up to six weeks after his blood is testing free of the virus. There is so much unknown about this disease.

We are talking about a virus here, not an attitude. Any person with common sense would be in deadly fear of that virus.

sunnyatlast 10-24-2014 09:35 PM

Here's more on ZMAPP. They ran out of it in August, so I doubt nurses Pham and Vinson received it.

This article shows the painstaking, slow process of making it, and they emphasize that no clinical trials have been done on it to know if any person actually benefits from it. They don't know if it helped Dr. Brantley or not, as he got it on the 9th day. They're working on it……..

Ebola 'Secret Serum': Small Biopharma, The Army, And Big Tobacco - Forbes

BarryRX 10-25-2014 10:53 AM

and after about a million posts on this subject and tons of hysteria, more people have been married by Kim Kardeshian than have died from ebola in the US. Let the flaming begin.....

graciegirl 10-25-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 958017)
and after about a million posts on this subject and tons of hysteria, more people have been married by Kim Kardeshian than have died from ebola in the US. Let the flaming begin.....


Thank God.

http://thewestsidestory.net/wp-conte...bola-Virus.jpg

janmcn 10-25-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 958017)
and after about a million posts on this subject and tons of hysteria, more people have been married by Kim Kardeshian than have died from ebola in the US. Let the flaming begin.....


And twice as many people died of gunshot wounds this month in The Villages than have died of Ebola in the entire US.

sunnyatlast 10-25-2014 02:49 PM

Gunshot death is not contagious by being in close contact with the public, and gunshot wounds are not fatal in 70-90% of cases.

Diverting attention away from a wildly mutating, heinous suffering-causing virus with no cure, to point at gun ownership in TV and that agenda is just pathetic.

BarryRX 10-25-2014 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=sunnyatlast;958148]Gunshot death is not contagious by being in close contact with the public, and gunshot wounds are not fatal in 70-90% of cases.

Diverting attention away from a wildly mutating, heinous suffering-causing virus with no cure, to point at gun ownership in TV and that agenda is just pathetic.


That's not the point he was making. That was the point you wanted to hear him making.

graciegirl 10-25-2014 02:56 PM

[quote=BarryRX;958149]
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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 958148)
Gunshot death is not contagious by being in close contact with the public, and gunshot wounds are not fatal in 70-90% of cases.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 958148)

Diverting attention away from a wildly mutating, heinous suffering-causing virus with no cure, to point at gun ownership in TV and that agenda is just pathetic.

That's not the point he was making. That was the point you wanted to hear him making.


Umm.. HE is a she.

Chi-Town 10-25-2014 03:13 PM

The Ebola.com web domain just sold for over $200,000.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-ebola...849257029.html

cologal 10-25-2014 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 958148)
Gunshot death is not contagious by being in close contact with the public, and gunshot wounds are not fatal in 70-90% of cases.

Diverting attention away from a wildly mutating, heinous suffering-causing virus with no cure, to point at gun ownership in TV and that agenda is just pathetic.

A man shot his wife in the back because she wanted a divorce. Coward. The previous post is only a statement of fact!!!

graciegirl 10-25-2014 03:23 PM

Dr. Craig Spencer getting experimental anti-viral drug Brincidofovir to fight Ebola: officials - NY Daily News

BarryRX 10-25-2014 04:01 PM

Ebola is three syllables and Obama is three syllables. Why hasn't the lame stream media pointed that out yet? (Please imagine smiley emoticon here).


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