But, only takes 5 mins. To refuel in heat or cold.

[QUOTE=Southwest737;2292639]Just a moment...


No it’s true.

Due to huge Norwegian government subsidies, no sales tax on an EV (can be around $27,000), no tolls, free parking, free ferry rides over the fjords. This has been taken advantage of by wealthy people in the cities. Norway is now retrenching, at the least because the policies have been severly criticized for expanding income inequality, but also because the EVs are not affecting climate change & the mining for minerals is so harmful. Like here, EVs are currently a rich man's car.

WOW is it called blowing one's own Trumpet or sing one's one praises?

So which one’s are doing? Can’t set on fence, got jump sooner or later? :D

Research the vehicles catching fire. Not good from the mining to energy used to charge.

If you don't like Tesla, fine but don't make up lies while basing them. There's nothing wrong with Tesla's charging network, I've never had any problems in the 9 years I've driven my car.

Ps: yes, electric vehicles have slightly less range in the cold but I love the convenience of turning on my electric heat and heated seats and heated steering wheel 3 minutes before I enter my car when it's 15 degrees outside. Nice & toasty when I get in. One of the benefits of an EV that you can't do in an ICE car. :)
Pss: I respect that EVs won't work for some people and some people don't like change but for the life of me I don't understand the bashing?

Yes, but for how long. Most of the hate towards EV's is due to the mandates, certain groups of people want to limit others choices. If EV's made sense for everyone then the market would sort this out. No one should have to defend their choice as long as they have one!

Bashing? Merely pointing out disadvantages is only "bashing" if you're married to your point of view. Every coin has two sides.

The majority of posts here seem to recognize that EVs make more or less sense depending on one's location and circumstances. But what is mostly unspoken, though at times implied) is the fear that we as a nation will be forced into accepting EVs over ICE vehicles even though economically in many (most?) instances such a move would pose a hardship for many, many of which have been pointed out here, as has been the case in other nations.

Talk about bashing.. you do realize you can now buy ICE vehicles with remote starts for preheating and you don’t even have to crawl into a cold vehicle to warm it. And you haven’t used up a quarter of your mileage heating it prior to driving. I’ll take four minutes for filling my tank at a gas station vs the long wait to recharge. To each their own.

There is a story in Newsbreak today about the reliability of EVs versus ICE vehicles in the winter in Norway. Norway has the MOST EVs in Europe with 24% of all vehicles. Norway's statistics show that the internal combustion engine vehicles break down MORE often in cold weather than EVs.
...........Now obviously the people in Norway have more experience with EVs than the US, which has only about 7% of new car sales being EVs. Norway probably has more charging stations than the US. And the article did NOT say which MAKE of automobile was popular in Norway. Maybe there are a lot of Volvos and Mercedes in Norway and they have some special strong design features set up for cold weather.
..........But, people in the US need to realize that EVs are early in their production history. They have GREAT potential for improvement and reliability as MORE are purchased. Electric motors are inherently more reliable than IC engines. Electric motor revolve in a circle, while IC engines reciprocate up and down and thus are less efficient. And the center of gravity for the Electric motor and batteries is lower, which is basically superior to an IC engine.
.........The US vehicle makers like Tesla might want to study WHY Norway EVs are so reliable in the cold and year round.

In a few years the US will have many more charging stations. So, that could help the cold weather driving.

I think that what California is doing about eliminating SMALL GAS engines is a GOOD thing. They have no catalytic converters on them and likely put out as much CO2 pollution as a full size car. When I see the yard maintenance people here in The Village using small GAS leaf blowers and GAS weed eaters, I think about the extra noise compared to battery operated tools. I think about the pollution produced. I wonder if California is working to eliminate large riding GAS lawnmowers. And what about GAS golf carts?
..........I particularly like the idea of all stone lawns in the Villages. All that fertilizer waste flowing into the small lakes due to over-fertilizing GRASS yards. All the useless time and money spent CUTTING GRASS.
...........California is making a good transition toward all electric vehicles and small motors. The world is going to run out of Oil and Gas soon anyway!

What if OIL runs out before 2050?

Not ........higher repair costs compared to ICE vehicles. The article said that repair costs for Teslas were 20% higher than OTHER EVs.