Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2279844)

Really! You agreed to rent an EV and didn't check to see where charging stations were located. Your experience is your fault - own it. EV's are the future - get use to it! Sore head!

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2279850)

Interesting points.

I think one common misconception is that people here are "opposed" to EVs. That is certainly not the case: I know plenty of people who one one (or two) and are happy with them. More power to them. If an EV fits your needs, wonderful. People are certainly free to choose them. However, the statement "No one is forcing them to buy", if the administration has their way, would prove to be untrue. See below.

I think, bottom-line, that folks here are opposed to what they see as some pretty blatant social engineering, based on concepts that at best are legitimately challengeable and at worst a power-grab. The proposed EPA emissions limitations which would mandate a 13% annual emissions reduction and an overall 56% cut in fleet emissions, for example. The administration's plan to use taxpayer dollars as as grants to automakers to retrofit for purposes of manufacturing more EVs. The proposal to dramatically cut greenhouse-gas emissions by heavy-duty vehicles (trucks, buses, and the like beginning in 2027 with ever-more stringent reductions annually to 2032--an especially problematic area because America's economy runs on such vehicles, and such restrictions would inevitably mean a significant increase in the cost of domestic goods and services. Other examples exist as well.

There is, or should be, no problem with letting the market decide, and with Elon involved the market could very well swing eventually in favor of EVs regardless of government interference. But anything that smacks of social engineering is a surefire way to raise the hackles of many--probably most--Americans. That is what you're seeing here--not opposition to EVs but opposition to what is seen as arbitrary government meddling.

I don't know how things are seen in the UK regarding such matters, but I go back to a quote by former President Ronald Reagan: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Maybe the citizens of the UK don't see government in that way, but a whole lot of Americans do.

Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2279874)

That might be true today, but these companies are investing millions of dollars to get the kinks out. Once they do they expect a big return are their investment. There too much cash going into this, it's not going away.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2279785)

After purchasing a series of eight Chysler vans; Town and Country and then Pacifica, we purchased a Pacifica Hybrid this year in 2023 in July. We have filled the tank with gas only three times since July. Granted we are older and use it mostly for travel here in The Villages area. Our younger family members were amused and surprised when we purchased this car because this isn't how we vote. ;)

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2279885)

They are investing millions of $$$ because they are being FORCED to...

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2279885)

They are investing millions of $$$ because they are being FORCED to...

Originally Posted by tvmurray (Post 2279781)

It was Dollar/Hertz. However most other rental companies had no vehicles. They did exchange it for a real car with no hassle or cost. My question remains as to why any rental company would have an EV in their fleet.

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2279906)

Please add STABIL to your gas tank ASAP. And use it every time you get gas. You are not driving enough to keep gas in your tank fresh.

Gas that sits too long becomes gummy and will cause a big problem if left to become stale. Varnish deposits will foul the injectors. Fuel lines will plug up. Your hybrid will become an expensive paperweight. (unless you pay $$$$ to get it fixed)

Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 2279883)

That's why I went with a PHEV Rav 4. It got 70+ mph on our trip to TV.

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2279906)

Please add STABIL to your gas tank ASAP. And use it every time you get gas. You are not driving enough to keep gas in your tank fresh.

Gas that sits too long becomes gummy and will cause a big problem if left to become stale. Varnish deposits will foul the injectors. Fuel lines will plug up. Your hybrid will become an expensive paperweight. (unless you pay $$$$ to get it fixed)

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2279258)

A friend of mine bought a Tesla a few years ago (admittedly, chargers were more scarce then). When he finally got rid of it, it was primarily a result of his Therapist's advice. He told me he had "range anxiety" every day he owned the thing. It was so bad, he almost couldn't function.

He was an idiot to have bought the thing in the first place, knowing he spent most of his time "on the road".

Customer Satisfaction scores for EV's are abysmal. The major automakers have inventory backing up, because most everyone who wants an EV, has already bought one. Something has to give soon, as EV's simply aren't the answer.

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2279316)

The first EV by GM was extremely popular as a commuter vehicle which it was designed for. They developed leading edge battery which they sold to Cheveron Oil and shelved.
A documentary was made “ Who killed the Electric Car”
Available on TUBI for free other streaming sources $3.59 to $3.99
GM EV1 1996-199….

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2279923)

Just get the ethanol free gas at WaWa, problem solved.