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Bill14564 09-23-2024 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2372898)
Huh? Do you deny that supply chain prices are dependent on the cost of energy? And since most of that is currently using fossil fuels, creating cheaper oil by more production would lead to lower prices on virtually everything.

Doesn't seem like "alternative facts"....
The post went a lot further than saying supply chain costs are included in prices.

Fuel costs went down significantly a few years ago but I don’t recall the prices of virtually everything decreasing. In fact, while inflation slowed it did not turn negative.

MorTech 09-23-2024 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2372686)
Standard Oil was a monopoly that had to be broken up by SCOTUS.

Fermi and more: Einstein , Curie, Rutherford, Planck, Niels Bohr, Roentgen

The Holy Grail will be fusion.

Too bad they didn't name a sub atomic particle or an isotope after Rutherford. Too many syllables I guess.
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Standard Oil was not a monopoly since anyone could enter the oil market...There were no restrictions to entry. They had the largest market share since they were the most competitive producer. We know this because after the breakup of Standard oil, prices for oil products increased nearly 10X over a short period of time and Rockefeller got even richer since his assets became even more valuable. All of humanity suffered because of that breakup.

...And also Ian Fleming...cant believe I forgot about him.

Enrico Fermi was primarily responsible for the first nuclear reactor...Leo Szilard was key as well.

Aces4 09-23-2024 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372854)
Every Canadian that I ever talked to LOVED their healthcare. They worry about getting sick and having to go to a US hospital. The US ranks LAST compared to 9 other top countries for HEALTHCARE. Australia is #1.
So I take it one has not heard about the fiasco in health care in England? I don't think the USA is last anymore.:shocked:

Aces4 09-23-2024 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372561)
That is a good post! Americans live under the illusion that we are the best at EVERYTHING. So we do NOT try to learn anything from other counties. Just as an example, the US is the only major country that does NOT have socialized medicine. Actually, the V. A. could be expanded to include all people and that would give us National Healthcare like ALL the other major countries. Medical insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies are set up to make EXCESSIVE profits.
......The bottom line is that we should look at other countries and be willing to LEARN from them.
And yet people want to live here, go figure!

Aces4 09-23-2024 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372854)
Every Canadian that I ever talked to LOVED their healthcare. They worry about getting sick and having to go to a US hospital. The US ranks LAST compared to 9 other top countries for HEALTHCARE. Australia is #1.
They feared going to a USA hospital because their "wonderful Canadian healthcare" won't cover the bills.:ohdear: The older you get, the more expensive your cost for healthcare if you leave Canada seasonally.

Pugchief 09-23-2024 02:20 PM
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I guess those Canadians "love" waiting 39 weeks to see the orthopedic surgeon.
Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2019 Report | Fraser Institute
Imagine the complaining on TOTV if that was the case here. LOL

Aces4 09-23-2024 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2372846)
I agree with the last sentence. And using alternative energy sources ALSO would decrease global warming, which is the #1 problem for humanity RIGHT NOW. Interestingly, it is not talked about too much. Strange that a problem that BIG is ignored.
If one believes global warming is the #1 problem for humanity right now, they aren't paying attention to what is happening in the world. Let's start with AI which can take humanity out rather quickly..

Aces4 09-23-2024 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2372895)
The reason healthcare is so expensive here is because of REGULATIONS.
Regulations don't help but the biggest reason is the profits that are required to feed the stock market. What a gig!:MOJE_whot:

jimjamuser 09-23-2024 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2372898)
Huh? Do you deny that supply chain prices are dependent on the cost of energy? And since most of that is currently using fossil fuels, creating cheaper oil by more production would lead to lower prices on virtually everything.

Doesn't seem like "alternative facts"....
The price of oil depends on the WORLDWIDE market. The US by itself does NOT control the price. More worldwide production would be a factor toward lower prices for most goods.

jimjamuser 09-23-2024 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2372913)
And yet people want to live here, go figure!
For a poor person in Venezuela, it is easier to walk to the US than it is to SWIM to Australia or Sweden. That's the main reason that they are coming here. Also, the US is lax compared to other countries about deporting the undocumented.

jimjamuser 09-23-2024 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2372916)
They feared going to a USA hospital because their "wonderful Canadian healthcare" won't cover the bills.:ohdear: The older you get, the more expensive your cost for healthcare if you leave Canada seasonally.
That is very LOGICAL from Canada's point of view. They are aware that US healthcare is mediocre, yet expensive.

jimjamuser 09-23-2024 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372849)

If one believes global warming is the #1 problem for humanity right now, they aren't paying attention to what is happening in the world. Let's start with AI which can take humanity out rather quickly..
AI uses a lot of electricity. It may or may not be worth it. I am NOT so knowledgeable about AI to have a good opinion.

Pugchief 09-23-2024 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372932)
AI uses a lot of electricity. It may or may not be worth it. I am NOT so knowledgeable about AI to have a good opinion.
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Pugchief 09-23-2024 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372927)
The price of oil depends on the WORLDWIDE market. The US by itself does NOT control the price. More worldwide production would be a factor toward lower prices for most goods.
Correct, correct and correct.
Not sure what your point is; you were commenting on my assertion that more drilling for oil would reduce supply chain costs, leading to lower prices for most goods. Which apparently you agree with.

Aces4 09-23-2024 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372929)
For a poor person in Venezuela, it is easier to walk to the US than it is to SWIM to Australia or Sweden. That's the main reason that they are coming here. Also, the US is lax compared to other countries about deporting the undocumented.
I was talking about people in all nations. I know why a Venezuelan is walking in.:ohdear:


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