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Aces4 09-23-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2372920)
AI uses a lot of electricity. It may or may not be worth it. I am NOT so knowledgeable about AI to have a good opinion.

Might be wise to tune in. A couple of experts who work in the field said control as to how it can be used has to be taken now. It can get pretty ugly quickly if controls aren't in place and even that may be impossible.

Aces4 09-23-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372930)
That is very LOGICAL from Canada's point of view. They are aware that US healthcare is mediocre, yet expensive.

That's a myth. There are plenty of Canadians who would like to seek treatment here but are forbidden or charged horrendous prices if service is in the states. Florida may have mediocre healthcare but not the rest of the US.

jimjamuser 09-24-2024 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2372951)
Correct, correct and correct.
Not sure what your point is; you were commenting on my assertion that more drilling for oil would reduce supply chain costs, leading to lower prices for most goods. Which apparently you agree with.

It's simple. More drilling for oil worldwide would likely drop the oil price, which would ripple through and lower the price of goods. BUT, more drilling by the US would NOT have that big of a drop in oil price. And there are many, many other factors to consider. The US people want clean air and clean water (unlike other dictator controlled countries that would make their people suffer bad air and etc). US oil left in the ground is like a bank account for when oil runs out - an account to use oil for medicine rather than using it to pollute US air and water. The US would be able to exert more CONTROL over oil prices by doing what California is doing. That is, moving more quickly to E-vehicles and having FEWER oil and gas engine vehicles. Note: E-vehicles use less parts and ZERO up and down piston action.

jimjamuser 09-24-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372932)

Might be wise to tune in. A couple of experts who work in the field said control as to how it can be used has to be taken now. It can get pretty ugly quickly if controls aren't in place and even that may be impossible.

I can agree with that.

jimjamuser 09-24-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2372957)
That's a myth. There are plenty of Canadians who would like to seek treatment here but are forbidden or charged horrendous prices if service is in the states. Florida may have mediocre healthcare but not the rest of the US.

The US has great medical knowledge at the University level and great research done by private companies. And if you are a millionaire you get great state of the art treatments. But, if you are a poor or average wealth American - you are out of luck. The US is last in health care out of the 10 top industrialized nations. That is the proof of my 1st three sentences.

tophcfa 09-24-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2372927)
The price of oil depends on the WORLDWIDE market. The US by itself does NOT control the price.

So it’s just a bizarre coincidence in timing that gas recently went below $3 per gallon despite the intense conflict currently happening in the Middle East?

jimjamuser 09-24-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2372368)
Energy is the primary input cost to everything that is produced. There is nothing more important than cheap energy to the well-being of humanity. JD Rockefeller and Enrico Fermi should be worshipped (as well as Fritz Haber).

The USA buys heavy sour from Venezuela and Russia to mix with the light sweet shale oil in refineries that have not been modified for light sweet shale oil.

Solar energy is cheap and will be available LONG AFTER oil is used up. Same for nuclear energy.

tophcfa 09-24-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2373197)
Solar energy is cheap and will be available LONG AFTER oil is used up. Same for nuclear energy.

If it was cheap (and reliable) we would all be using it.

jimjamuser 09-24-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2373196)
So it’s just a bizarre coincidence in timing that gas recently went below $3 per gallon despite the intense conflict currently happening in the Middle East?

I believe that one factor is that people in the US are driving less. Possibly due to an aging population? Lots of young people living in cities do not even OWN cars. They take public transportation everywhere. A likely FUTURE would be nuclear energy plants producing electricity and most vehicles being E-vehicles. Then a gallon of gas might sell for 50 cents because no one uses gas that much.

jimjamuser 09-24-2024 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2373198)
If it was cheap (and reliable) we would all be using it.

I was talking in the foreseeable FUTURE.

Pugchief 09-24-2024 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2373202)
I believe that one factor is that people in the US are driving less.

Do you have a link to data supporting that statement?

It's not plausible that the price of gas dropped bc people SUDDENLY started driving less. Even if true, which is unlikely, that would only affect the long term price of gas, not short term swings.

jimjamuser 09-24-2024 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2373214)
Do you have a link to data supporting that statement?

It's not plausible that the price of gas dropped bc people SUDDENLY started driving less. Even if true, which is unlikely, that would only affect the long term price of gas, not short term swings.

All I had to do was go to Google and put in "are people driving less in the US?" The answer was a resounding .......YES and there were various reasons behind the drop. One was young people do not drive as much.

MorTech 09-24-2024 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2372444)
That is a VERY OLD point of view!!!! Look up the top happiest countries in the world. Socialist countries are at the top, USA is #23.

No they are not.

the 4 political taxing entities that claim to own us (Fed/State/County/Municipal) steal 75% of our earnings using taxes and inflation...and you think the USA is Capitalist?

Bill14564 09-24-2024 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2373247)
No they are not.

the 4 political taxing entities that claim to own us (Fed/State/County/Municipal) steal 75% of our earnings using taxes and inflation...and you think the USA is Capitalist?

I'd sure like to see the math for that 75% claim.

MorTech 09-24-2024 02:45 PM

Add it yourself...Don't forget "fees" and mandated insurance and other taxes an employer is forced to pay on your behalf. Productivity gains are stolen by inflation plus 2% which is at least 5%.


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