Honda generator. Runs 24 hours on a gallon of diesel fuel. Put this onboard.

Look you can argue ICE vs EVs until you're blue in the face, but EVs are going to win out in the long run, and it has nothing to do with climate change. This is a new market for the auto industry, increase profits for power suppliers and all that goes with it. Musk just signed a $100 million contract with BP to supply his super chargers to their gas stations. Tax dollars are allocated to put chargers on our highways. The benefit of getting out from under the thumb of foreign countries whims, plus once everything is in place and people start to get use to the convince ICE will slowly disappear. If and when that time comes many posters who are strong ICE advocates will either not want to discuss this topic or will deny they ever were opposed.

That 97 percent number has been debunked many times, it is baloney. We might be helping climate change but we are not causing it. I owned a tesla, great car, but thinking that EV autos will take over is absurd. I also own a Prius and am planning to buy my fourth one, a Prime. My present car gets a combined 55 mpg and the hybrid will be electric before switching over to gas, brilliant. I may be in the “minority” because I do not believe that people are causing climate change, but I am the one driving an EV, a hybrid, I compost, save my water for my plants, use bamboo paper products, use a Swedish sponge instead of paper towels, have native plants and a nectar garden, use a reusable container for coffee and water, stopped using saran wrap. I may be a “minority” who actually puts my money where my mouth is which is more than many people around that waste without regard, while touting climate change. Charity starts at home.

700 mile range. Because cars need to handle every possible use case, real or imagined. And the phallic symbol angle is important too.

AFIK Ram is touting this truck with a 3.6 Liter gasoline engine to run the generator. It is a range extender rather than a hybrid because it relies upon the electric motor exclusively for propulsion.

Maybe it’s a good idea, maybe it’s a pig in a poke. Time will tell if it’s a Mustang or an Edsel.

Global warming does exist, that's a fact. To say otherwise is just ignorant.

BMW just killed the 5 series by making it an EV, yuck.

Pollution
 

I always laugh to myself when someone starts moaning about all the pollution and environmental damage that mining for EV materals is going to cause. I've lived in 3 different places where the oil industry polluted the beaches. The east coast of Saudi Arabia, where Aramco would occasionally have a mishap. Santa Barbara, CA, where we needed to keep a bottle of baby oil at the door to wipe the tar off our feet after going to the beach (offshore rigs). And Madeira Beach, FL, where a tanker spill created an environmental disaster and made the beaches unusable for months. Bring on the EVs!

For those who think there is no global warming....

Earth briefly passed a feared global warming milestone.

Average global temperatures were more than 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) above preindustrial times for the first time on Friday, data shows.

What it means: The climate is moving into uncharted territory after months of record warmth. A longer-term breach of this benchmark could have severe consequences.

I didn't know until reading this thread, that anyone still thinks GW is a hoax, I thought the debate was the cause, not the existence.

Close Down the Oil Fields!???
 

You said this dream vehicle has a GAS TANK! and then you dream of Closing the Oil Fields - Where does the GAS come from in your dream?? Global Warming is a political scam, and millions are falling for it!

Harmful to the environment Mining for lithium
 

Though emissions deriving from mining these two elements are lower than those deriving from fossil fuels production, the extraction methods for lithium and cobalt can be very energy intensive – leading to air and water pollution, land degradation, and potential for groundwater contamination.Mar 31, 2023
Plus all heavy equipment uses
diesel fuel , oops . Ground water contamination and minefields uninhabitable for 100s of years .

You want those who claim "deniers" aren't doing their research to do actual research to back up their own claims?

That's crazy talk!

No problem with oil. So much hype about global warming but no substance.

I did that once earlier this year for one of these threads. The 97% (or was it 99%) is accurate. Of those papers that took a stand on climate change, 97% agreed that climate change was real and that man’s actions are adding to it.

Certainly, there are biologists (scientists) who have no opinion on climate change. They are neither part of the 97% nor the 3%. There are also climate scientists who have not taken a stand or have no opinion on the issue. They are neither part of the 97% nor the 3%. But according to the study, of those climate scientists expressing an opinion in published papers, 97% supported the idea that man was contributing to climate change.

Then have a look at the Toyota RAV4 Prime, if you can find one. Hen's teeth.

RAV4... click here.

So, how much warmer does it need to get before the dinosaurs return?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Had to do more with the predicted massive demand. Also, If you look most EVs are initially only brought out to a few states, and those are usually more southern with less harsh climate. The vehicles are vetted in this environment and then once the data comes in… And changes are made they are more readily available. I remember you could not get a Prius prime in Minnesota for several years. Now you can.

If you look… I'm sure you'll see almost every vehicle manufacturer offers hybrid versions. The issues with hybrids is you can only make a internal combustion engine so efficient. The remainder will have to rely on a battery stores for efficiency.

Study up a bit on the ecological disaster known as Lithium Mining. There's a new operation starting up in Nevada that will use 5,000 TONS of sulfuric acid per day.

Or it won't help at all because man made global warming is the biggest scam on the planet

Global warming is not a hoax however man made global warming is total BS.

Nobody is forcing you to buy an EV so why do you and so many others hate them and feel compelled to actively protest against them? Right now an EV is perfect as a second car for errands and short work commutes where you don't need to worry about available commercial charge stations. They are not yet ready for long road trips to to range limitations and lack of charging infrastructure but that will change eventually. You guys seem to hate anything that is positive for the environment. Fortunately your generation will be dead soon and but your children will inherit the polluted dying planet you created.

One last point: All of our problems with terrorists, wars and the Middle East are caused by our interference in Middle Eastern affairs due to our need for oil. Eliminate the need for oil and thus eliminate our presence in the region and the problems related to the Middle East will be a thing of the past.

Incorrect...

"This public discussion was started by Oreskes’ brief 2004 article, which included an analysis of 928 papers containing the keywords “global climate change.” The article says “none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position” of anthropogenic global warming. Although this article makes no claim to a specific number, it is routinely described as indicating 100% agreement and used as support for the 97% figure."

See the rest of the article here...

Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

Certain states (and the Fed Gubmint) are most certainly mandating (forcing) you to buy EVs... (see California...)

EPA’s New Electric Vehicle Mandate: Too Far, Too Fast | NADA

"Will electric cars be mandatory in California?

Yes. California is only requiring that all NEW cars sold in 2035 and beyond are zero-emission vehicles which includes battery electric vehicles, plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and fuel cell electric vehicles."

ca ev mandate - Google Search

From the article you linked:

Cook is careful to describe his 2013 study results as being based on “climate experts.” Political figures and the popular press are not so careful. President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry have repeatedly characterized it as 97% of scientists. Kerry has gone so far as to say that “97 percent of peer-reviewed climate studies confirm that climate change is happening and that human activity is largely responsible.” This is patently wrong, since the Cook study and others showed that the majority of papers take no position. One does not expect nuance in political speeches, and the authors of scientific papers cannot be held responsible for the statements of politicians and the media.

Given these results, it is clear that support among scientists for human-caused climate change is below 97%. Most studies including specialties other than climatologists find support in the range of 80% to 90%. The 97% consensus of scientists, when used without limitation to climate scientists, is false.

Which is what I wrote.

The author then goes on to say he disagrees with the methodology of the Cook study. I'm sure Cook and others disagree with his disagreement.

It already exists, it’s called a hybrid like a Prius. It’s a good common sense solution and compromise.

Hybrids sound like the best alternative for what is available now. I just can’t wrap my head around an all electric vehicle. Don’t tell my daughter. She drives a Polestar and works on their marketing.

It's hard to believe the OP was serious. If the oil fields are shut down, where does his "small" 27 gallon tank of gas come from?
Also, this dream is exactly how train locomotives work now.
Keep dreaming and maybe you can invent a phone that accesses the internet and takes pictures 😅

According to Biden administration all vehicles will be electric by 2035. So yes, we are in fact being forced to buy EV’s.

The all electric Tesla Model Y is the best selling car in the US and the world.

Not true. Gasoline cars will be around for probably the next 30 years. You will see the percentage of new cars that are gasoline drop off to near zero but used gasoline cars will be around for some time. The Government may continue to provide incentives to buy an electric car, in much the same way that they provide incentives to buy a house.

Shut down oil fields?
 

So you believe oil is only for gasoline? Look around at all the items you use that is petroleum based.

There is no Fereral mandate or Congress passed Bill to force the consumer to buy EV.
“ Federal Sustainability Plan requires federal agencies to transition the largest fleet in the world to all electric by acquiring 100 percent light-duty ZEVs annually by 2027 and acquiring 100 percent medium- and heavy-duty ZEVs annually by 2035.”

EV’s will take many decades to be a viable alternative to gas vehicles. A relative works for a company that has EV trucks for hauling, they need double the amount of vehicles to do what a diesel truck can do. Battery life and towing capacity are the main issues, plus you just can’t pull over and do a quick charge while a hired driver is sitting around for many hours unproductive while getting paid

Yes, they accept climate change as a fact. And it is. BUT NOT for the reasons YOU and yours profess.

Let's be more specific… The mine your referring to is the Thacker pass mine. That sulfur will be turned molton on site to make sulfuric acid. The sulfur is a waste byproduct, and comes from… Wait for it....OIL REFINERIES!!!! Burning the sulfur to produce sulfuric acid is an exothermic reaction, allowing the plant to generate most of its own electricity.

So the mine recycles waste byproducts created by the oil industry and does not require any external energy.:welcome:

Haters gonna hate (The old foggies with one foot in the grave won't get that one either)
I got odds that says no one will counter your post!!!!

FAKE NEWS!! The goal of the administration is to have 50% of the vehicles battery powered by 2030. The operative word is goal. There is nothing that says it's a mandate. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...tric-vehicles/

Why doesn't EV evolve naturally instead of being jam down our throats. I am also ****ed at subsidizing up to 50% on every EV.

Change your tv or radio station.
“ Some all-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles qualify for a $3,700 to $7,500 federal tax credit.“
If it were a 50% credit id buy an EV tomorrow!